Visa
4 statements across 4 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Oct 17, 2016 by Joe Gebbia · said 16 times in 6 episodes since 2016 · across every show →
Mentions by year
brought up most by Guy Raz (9), Joe Gebbia (3), Max Levchin (2), Wes Felix (1), Chelsea Fagan (1)
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2026 8 mentions in 1 episode
2025 1 mention in 1 episode
2023 1 mention in 1 episode
2022 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2016 3 mentions in 1 episode
Everything said about Visa, oldest first
Oct 17, 2016
Airbnb survived early on by maxing out binders full of credit cards
“You know those binders where you keep baseball cards? I had one of those, except there weren't baseball cards in it. They were credit cards. We would go through visa after visa to MasterCard and then final to Amex. Just maxing out credit cards, and that's how …”
Jun 24, 2019
Mar 16, 2023 positive
Feb 23, 2026 negative
Middlemen organizations, not Visa and MasterCard, exploit small merchants with fees
“Where the crazy abuse is, is all the middlemen in those transactions. So Visa and MasterCard, they don't really abuse the merchant, but the abuse happens with all their partners. Like the independent sales organizations that work for the banks that work for Vi…”