Mastercard

3 statements across 3 episodes · 0 bullish · 1 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Oct 17, 2016 by Joe Gebbia · said 12 times in 5 episodes since 2016 · across every show →

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Everything said about Mastercard, oldest first

Oct 17, 2016
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Airbnb survived early on by maxing out binders full of credit cards
“You know those binders where you keep baseball cards? I had one of those, except there weren't baseball cards in it. They were credit cards. We would go through visa after visa to MasterCard and then final to Amex. Just maxing out credit cards, and that's how …”
Joe Gebbia Oct 17, 2016 ▶ 17:19 Airbnb: Joe Gebbia
Jun 24, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Elon Musk pitched taking down Visa and MasterCard in 1999
“He was gonna, he's, you know, said right out of the gate, oh, we're gonna take down Visa and MasterCard.”
Jeremy Stoppelman Jun 24, 2019 ▶ 7:21 Yelp: Jeremy Stoppelman
Feb 23, 2026 negative
Opinion
Middlemen organizations, not Visa and MasterCard, exploit small merchants with fees
“Where the crazy abuse is, is all the middlemen in those transactions. So Visa and MasterCard, they don't really abuse the merchant, but the abuse happens with all their partners. Like the independent sales organizations that work for the banks that work for Vi…”
Jim McKelvey Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 41:26 Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company
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