CAVA

includes Cava Mezze

18 statements across 3 episodes · 6 bullish · 0 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Nov 27, 2023 by Brett Schulman · said 73 times in 8 episodes since 2020 · across every show →

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Nov 27, 2023
Disclosure
Panera founder Ron Shaich helped engineer CAVA's acquisition of Zoës Kitchen
“Zoës had approached him, and he said, you know, what do you think about if our investors put together the capital, we acquire it, and give it to you, Brett, and your team?”
Brett Schulman Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 1:00:57 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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CAVA founders collateralized their first restaurants when investors refused to provide capital
“We ran out of money after two restaurants and our investors didn't want to give us any more money. And so we went and took a loan out against everything that we had worked for. We took a loan against our full service restaurants, against these fast casuals”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 1:12:17 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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CAVA funded unprofitable dips retail business using restaurant profits
“So the restaurants were making profit. The dips, of course, were not. We were funding those with the restaurant profit, but, you know, we were starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel coming out of that whole economic collapse of oh, eight, oh nine.”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 40:53 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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Xenohristos: Initial Cava loan collateral was worth less than loan amount
“Well, there was no collateral except for the restaurant itself, so there was a lien on the restaurant, which, like I said, I mean, we built that place for 10 grand, so the collateral's Less than the loan was gonna be, so.”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 20:41 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
Disclosure
Xenohristos: CAVA founders maxed personal credit cards for first lease
“We took all our credit cards, our personal credit cards, and we just pulled money off them. Withdrew cash. We, Basically maxed them out and we were able to come up with that, that money to pay the landlord off.”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 12:48 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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CAVA founders underpriced early menu items by forgetting ingredients shrink when cooked
“We were bringing an octopus and let's just say the octopus weighed 40 pounds. We would divide that by the ounces that we served, and we were like, great, we can serve octopus for six bucks. Well, we didn't take into account that once we cooked that octopus off…”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 25:33 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023 bullish
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Schulman: Mediterranean Cuisine Is Next Major Large-Scale Cultural Food Category
“We see Mediterranean as the next big, large-scale cultural cuisine category, and we want Kava to be synonymous as the defining brand of that category.”
Brett Schulman Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 1:13:03 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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CEO Brett Schulman warned CAVA's founders against giving him 25% equity
“I remember, you know, to his credit, he looked at me and he actually told me that that was, that's actually a bad decision. That's bad. You know, he's trying to give me good, good advice as a business partner already. Like, that's not a good thing to just give…”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 40:01 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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Bank pulled CAVA's second restaurant loan during 2008-2009 financial crisis
“We had a loan for that restaurant, and the bank eventually pulled it because of the collapse, and so we were in a tight spot, like things were not going well.”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 33:07 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023 positive
Insight
Schulman: Walk-the-line formats create labor efficiencies that fund premium ingredients
“And one of the things that struck me that really helped us make the decision was that the walk the line format allowed very efficient labor costs. You know, it's the old Henry Ford production line. That allowed you to invest in high quality ingredients”
Brett Schulman Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 42:26 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023 positive
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Schulman: CAVA's Mosaic location opened at twice previous locations' run rate
“And we had two hour long lines and the restaurant opened, you know, for its regular service the next day at twice the revenue run rate of the other restaurants that had opened and the other restaurants all started to grow in concert with it.”
Brett Schulman Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 52:46 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023
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CAVA founders built their first restaurant location for around $10,000
“But I'm telling you, we built this thing for right around like 10 grand.”
Ted Xenohristos Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 15:32 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Nov 27, 2023 positive
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CAVA locations generated nearly double the revenue of neighboring Zoës Kitchen stores
“We had a few Kava's that were across the street from a Zoe's, and we were doing almost twice the revenue, and that emboldened us to make that decision, and take Zoe's private.”
Brett Schulman Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 1:02:53 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman
Jul 4, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Schulman: Integrating Zoës Kitchen made 2019 his hardest career year
“When we bought a company, Zoe's Kitchen, back in 2018, right? Devin Strahan: Yeah, I remember. Brett Schulman: Man, 2019 was the hardest year of my career.”
Brett Schulman Jul 4, 2024 ▶ 14:12 Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA
Jul 4, 2024 positive
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Schulman: CAVA turned around Zoe's Kitchen by simplifying and doing fewer things
“What you don't do is often more important than what you do do. And that really helped us turn the tide in the challenges of Zoe's is when I finally figured that out and we simplified and focused and did fewer things a lot Better. And that helped us get out of …”
Brett Schulman Jul 4, 2024 ▶ 46:42 Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA
Jul 4, 2024 neutral
Insight
Schulman: Scaling physical restaurant operations requires upfront capital unlike SaaS
“Scaling restaurants is not like scaling SAS software. It takes people. It takes process. It's building physical restaurants. You're building physical roasteries. So that takes capital and it's hard to scale these things. So being able to afford the capabilitie…”
Brett Schulman Jul 4, 2024 ▶ 41:03 Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA
Jul 4, 2024
Assertion Supported
Schulman: CAVA's Grocery Dips Predated Its Fast-Casual Restaurants
“The Consumer packaged goods, the dips and spreads being sold in grocery stores predated the fast casual.”
Brett Schulman Jul 4, 2024 ▶ 2:56 Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA
Sep 5, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Svenson: Best-in-class restaurant brands like Chipotle and CAVA achieve mid-20s margins
“Best in class brands, Chipotle and Cava and others are in the mid twenties.”
Scott Svenson Sep 5, 2024 ▶ 27:18 Advice Line with Scott and Ally Svenson of MOD Pizza
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