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Clean energy will reduce geopolitical influence by localizing power generation
“A clean energy world is, in many respects, going to reduce the geopolitical influence of energy, because it's inherently more local.”
Kaufman: Climate change can be solved without everyone caring about it
“Not everyone has to care about climate change for us to fix the problem. And that is a wonderful thing because not everyone will care about climate change.”
Gordon: Phasing out gasoline does not eliminate the remaining oil barrel
“And so I don't think people really understand that when you poke out different products that we use that come out of the barrel, like say gasoline, it still doesn't affect the entire barrel.”
Gordon: Renewables do not directly replace oil as primary energy
“You know, renewables substitute coal and gas in the electricity sector, but basically as a direct primary energy source, renewables right now have nothing to do with oil.”
Gordon: Meaningful oil cuts require a sum of incremental 2% solutions
“You know, between now and the day where we're wholly off this stuff,
We're going to need to start very carefully crafting the sum of these two percent solutions that add up to something meaningful, you know, like a 30% cut or a 50% cut in emissions.
But that, …”
Canary calls combining hardware, biology, and software a startup double black diamond
“From a VC perspective, you're like now combining hardware with biology, With software, like talk about like the double black diamond of a startup, like that's really difficult.”
Canary says aerial drone seeding consumes far more seed than hand planting
“And for a drone company operating, and we're going to be more consumptive of seed than taking seed, planting it in trays to be in a nursery, and then growing it into seedling hand planting, far less consumptive of seed.”
Canary says carbon credits massively revalue legacy commodity forestry seed assets
“Because of what I just described about mass events and the difficulty in collection, and the, it was highly undervalued because things are, in the forestry space, are a commodity, and being able to take and apply that resource with the seed zones and then bein…”
Dennett: World faces a copper recovery problem, not a discovery problem
“The world does not have a copper discovery problem. We have a copper recovery problem.”
Dennett: Revenue-share models incentivize arguing with customers over yield attribution
“We also made an early call to stay away from revenue shares on purpose. Part of that is because the second your fee is tied to a percentage of the customer's yield, you're incentivized to argue with them about where that improvement came from.”
Dennett: Identifying mine microbes is useless without linking to site chemistry
“The bugs that are there are not necessarily the same ones as the microbes that are doing things, and if you can't tie that to the chemistry and the mineralogy and the operating parameters, it doesn't actually turn into a lever that you can use.”
Dennett: An extra $100M would not fundamentally change Endolith's ultimate success
“The challenge, though, is that it's still a stepwise way of de-risking and mining. A hundred million dollars today is not going to fundamentally change. I do not believe our ultimate success. If it did change that, we'd be out fundraising for a hundred million…”
Gershenson: Early funds cannot invest in software until scaling AUM
“In the early days, you know, you basically just have management fees to cover people, and the idea of, like, investing in software to make the process better is, you're not going to do that until you have much larger AUM, right?”
Gershenson: Using equity to fund short-cycle reimbursable work is inefficient
“They would use equity to pay for work that was Getting reimbursed on a very short cycle, which is a terrible use of equity dollars, so, like, a really expensive way to finance this kind of work. And so credit makes, like, much more sense, right? It's much more…”
Gershenson: Venture debt is underwritten solely against future venture rounds
“Venture debt is underwritten against your next venture raise.
It's not underwritten against anything else.”
Pinkowski: Distributed on-farm fertilizer tech requires near-zero maintenance to pencil out
“You need really, really reliable technology that virtually never needs to be serviced for that to pencil out.”
Pinkowski: Simple interconnects like manifolds can be showstoppers in hardware scaling
“Something as simple as a manifold actually can be a total showstopper.”
Pinkowski: Pilot plants exist to build operational safety, not just test tech
“But the pilot is more than just to prove the technology can work. The pilot is your team's opportunity to practice running a factory safely and reliably. And that organizationally, you are ready to build your first-of-a-kind commercial factory.”
Su: Climate founders must extend runway to three years to survive
“Gosh, honestly, even if you're just an individual, extend runway. Be default alive by any means necessary, however you can and extend runway to three years if possible.”
Turning solar into 24-hour power requires a 16-hour storage discharge duration
“If you're trying to turn solar into 24 hour, you need a 16 hour discharge duration, basically to produce power, you know, between the time the sun goes down to the time the sun comes back up.”
Grid interconnection queues are artificially inflated by unfunded, speculative projects
“Because the process is so long, different Projects will be put into the queue, even though they may or may not be funded, even though they may or may not, you know, know that they're going to be going forward, and so the queue gets very long, and then projects…”
Horizontal drilling and fracking advances enabled next-generation geothermal cost reductions
“Those technology developments, the horizontal drilling, driving the cost down of horizontal drilling, as well as multi-stage fracking in a well is exactly what The next generation geothermal needed in order to drive down cost and in order to make it a an affor…”
Policymakers will not regulate CDR until feasibility is proven independently
“I, I've always felt that no policy maker is going to establish a policy that's not feasible because then it just comes back to bite them. So it's on us as the CDR industry to demonstrate that we're feasible and cost effective.”
Carneiro: Data center buildouts are impossible without tantalum
“With all these, ah, data centers that Everyone wants to have all over the place without tantalum. Forget about it.”
Carneiro: Scaling FOAK plants fails when founders solve all variables at once
“So if you try to solve all the variables at once,
It is going to be very difficult, so you have to isolate some of the variables, the most critical ones, show that you are able to solve, and then keep improving, right?
So that's how you need to do, ah, attempt…”
Rural hardware deployment inherently limits companies to slow, non-exponential growth
“So this is not a hockey stick story. This was always a, just a slow moving growth because of the nature of installing This equipment in such rural communities where you don't have easy access to tools.”
Dutta: Industry Coalitions Carry Far More Weight with Government than Solo Startup Lobbying
“Working in associations with other companies is incredibly valuable. We're so used to viewing competition warily, but when it comes to Like, the thermal batteries, and they're all, all of the thermal battery companies can actually bind together and actually he…”
Dutta: Founders must use social media and video rather than legacy PR
“As it relates to how companies now approach the government, I do think there is a world of storytelling that founders and companies need to do that is social media first. And lose the muscle of, oh, maybe I'll place a story in fast companies. And Fast Company …”
Nuclear energy will fail as a baseload solution without cost certainty
“The main challenge with new nuclear is really the cost. It's a two-fold problem. It's not just high cost, it's high cost uncertainty, and we're in a particularly kind of perilous moment where people are recognizing the value of the fixed, reliable, base low po…”
Rare builds trap nuclear engineers in narrow career development bands
“In the nuclear space in particular, because there's so few build opportunities, there are a lot of people who just have experience in a very narrow band of that development cycle for the technology. And when you just do that one step, like, 20 times, you're mi…”
Continuous hardware iteration is essential to maintain nuclear manufacturing efficiency
“When you have the overhead or the investment in the manufacturing capabilities, if you just wait for that operation experience, even at smaller timescales, you have a lot of people just sitting around not really doing anything. So, for us, Basically just have …”
Methane pyrolysis only became viable after the 2015 fracking boom
“Methane pyrolysis is only interesting if you have low cost natural gas, which hasn't always been the case, and if you are concerned about CO two emissions. And both of those factors really only started in about 2015 or so, once the fracking revolution took off…”
Deep tech startups need technical leaders to challenge PhDs on problem sequencing
“You need a strong technical leader who can go toe to toe with PhDs or has a PhD themselves to be able to explain this is why we're solving problems in, in this order. And you don't need to worry about that. Until the second of a kind commercial unit. Like, we'…”
Fluidized bed reactors require a one-foot diameter to eliminate wall effects
“You need to really get to a foot in diameter with a fluidized bed before you get away from wall effects. So if you can get to a foot in diameter or larger, you can get away from wall effects and be very confident that you can take the data that comes out of th…”
Lee: Distributed energy faces crushing operational overhead compared to utility-scale projects
“And now if you're doing distributed, it's a million dollars rather than a billion. So you might have a thousand times the amount of data at every single one of those stages, a thousand models, a thousand PDF documents or contracts, a thousand counterparties. S…”
Halfacre: Distributed infrastructure suffers transaction friction from fragmented, non-traditional counterparties
“But I think the other challenge around this asset class is that it's not one utility, right? It's a hundred business owners. It's a hundred nonprofits. It's a hundred YMCAs or churches. And so they're not the typical player in this space that's accustomed to t…”
Lee: Financial standardization fails without dedicated coordinators and aligned commercial incentives
“And so the two things really missing, right is first and foremost the build of the coordinators, right? Sometimes it's the government, sometimes it's an industry group, other times it's a financial institution or organizations like ours that are really leaning…”
Halfacre: Standardizing clean energy project finance is harder than standardizing mortgages
“I think in a lot of ways this is harder than A mortgage. I think the blended nature of the capital stack for projects has been really overwhelming for a lot of folks to wrap their arms around, so figuring out who owns the risk at what point in the project can …”
Lee: Vague terms like 'bankable off-taker' are meaningless without quantitative criteria
“Like, I need a bankable, you know, off-taker, and I need an experienced EPC, right? Like, those are meaningless words in many ways, right?”
Halfacre: Developers must bifurcate market risk capital from impact-driven philanthropic capital
“One type of capital cares about risk, and the other type of capital that many of these organizations that I'm talking to, ah, are philanthropic or below market rate or Has to align with community impact, and that, that set of capital cares about leverage and i…”
Halfacre: Financial standards boost confidence without forcing all assets into identical bundles
“And I think that one of the things that is really important to recognize in this conversation is that not all assets have to be bundled. Not all of these assets have to get to the secondary markets, has to look identical. Creating standards builds a marketplac…”
Fernandez: Hardware de-risking requires stepping from pilot to 5-20x demo to FOAK
“The way we propose to do this is, you know, that company has to follow a path towards that de-risking, and that path in our, ah, experience is you go from a pilot to a five to 20 x demonstration project, and then you go to another 10, 10, 20 times, ah, first o…”
Fernandez: EPC contractors avoid small, high-risk climate demonstration projects
“Most of the time, the team has to build it themselves. No EPC contractor really wants to get into this smallish projects, high risk projects, right?”
Fernandez: Sequential climate tech project development adds three to five years
“And one of the things we point out that our experience shows that the companies that do it, you know, in a sequential way could take, you know, somewhere between three or five years to get to the first of a kind versus, you know, doing it in a lot less time.”
Kann: Delivery obligations on demo plants undermine technology optimization
“The second you have a customer who's expecting the product, your incentives are misaligned a little bit because what you really need from an existential company perspective from the demo is to prove the technology and optimize it. What the customer needs is to…”
Fernandez: Cement offtakers will rarely sign contracts exceeding five years
“In cement, where it's so short-term, It'd be really hard to get anybody to sign more than a five-year agreement, right?”
Kann: First-of-a-kind infrastructure projects lack external construction financing solutions
“If you're building a first-of-a-kind thing, there's also not really, we've been talking about, like, financing the long-term operation. There's also not really a construction financing solution, so you end up having to do that on balance sheet, and that's a lo…”
Fernandez: Infrastructure investors back FOAK projects for multi-project platform deployment options
“What we've seen is most of these infrastructure investors really play for the platform, right? I'm putting X hundred million dollars in the first project. What I really want to do is put a billion dollars into your next two or three projects, and a lot of them…”