Zach Jones is the CEO of Graphitic Energy, discussing the macro conditions required for methane pyrolysis to be economically viable.
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“Methane pyrolysis is only interesting if you have low cost natural gas, which hasn't always been the case, and if you are concerned about CO two emissions. And both of those factors really only started in about 2015 or so, once the fracking revolution took off, and it was clear that there was this huge abundance of natural gas, both in the United States and other parts of the world.”
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