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Graphitic Energy's graphite byproduct is worth 20x its thermal BTU value

Zach Jones · The rogue idea that saved a hydrogen startup · Aug 13, 2025 · at 6:50

Zach Jones is the CEO of Graphitic Energy, a startup using methane pyrolysis to co-produce clean hydrogen and synthetic graphite.

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“We remove the carbon As a graphite powder, and for the markets that we have lined up for that, it's worth 20 times its BTU value, so 20 times the amount of money you'd get just for burning that carbon and making CO₂ when we extract it as graphite.”

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