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Natale: Most climate models omit permafrost or ignore abrupt thaw and wildfires

Dr. Sue Natale · The climate wild card: permafrost · Jul 13, 2022 · at 12:04

Dr. Sue Natale discusses the omission of subterranean Arctic carbon emissions from global carbon budget calculations with host Stephen Lacey.

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“Many of the models either don't include permafrost at all. The very few that do don't account for these abrupt ground collapses that are happening. They don't account for the impact of wildfire and permafrost, which can greatly accelerate thaw.”

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