Ed Niedermeyer

Program Director, Ride AI · 1 appearance on the record.

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Ed Niedermeyer is the former Editor-in-Chief of The Truth About Cars and the author of Ludicrous: The Unvarnished Story of Tesla Motors. He has covered the automotive and autonomous vehicle industries for over a decade, contributing reporting and commentary to The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Drive.

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What the tape says about how Ed argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Niedermeyer: Existing autonomous tech cannot handle general-purpose driving
“The technology that exists today is not up to the task of automating general purpose driving like we do with cars. We can't automate the way we drive cars because it is a multiplicity of tasks. It's in a multiplicity of domains. Like it's just way too much.”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 11:24 The autonomous car bubble has popped

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Everything Ed Niedermeyer said on the Green Blueprint that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Niedermeyer: Tesla's self-driving pitch works by matching consumer mental models
“And the reason Tesla's been successful at that is not because it's technically plausible at all. It's because it fits exactly what's in the mental model of the American consumer when they hear the word self-driving cars. And Tesla's the only company that's sel…”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 20:58 The autonomous car bubble has popped
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Niedermeyer: Autonomy will probably transform logistics before passenger cars
“Oh no, this is probably going to transform supply chain logistics and countless other non-consumer facing applications before It ever changes cars.”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 23:42 The autonomous car bubble has popped
Opinion
Niedermeyer: Argo AI's shutdown does not mean AV tech doesn't work
“And I think it's very easy to look at this and say, shutting down Argo.ai was an admission that this technology doesn't work, or wasn't going to work, or was a scam. And you look out on social media, and people are taking that lesson away, and I think that's t…”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 6:22 The autonomous car bubble has popped
Assertion Supported
Niedermeyer: Existing autonomous tech cannot handle general-purpose driving
“The technology that exists today is not up to the task of automating general purpose driving like we do with cars. We can't automate the way we drive cars because it is a multiplicity of tasks. It's in a multiplicity of domains. Like it's just way too much.”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 11:24 The autonomous car bubble has popped
Opinion
Niedermeyer: Argo AI's collapse represents the popping of the autonomous vehicle bubble
“What has to happen is you have to have the bubbles pop, and that's what things like, you know, Argo.ai going under was, that's what that is. It's a bubble pop.”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 19:17 The autonomous car bubble has popped
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Niedermeyer: Auto industry will stay limited to Level 2 and 3 systems
“Those level two, level three, human in the loop systems are where the auto industry is going to be for the near future.”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 21:54 The autonomous car bubble has popped
Insight
Niedermeyer: AV hype peaked when the technology was least ready
“So the hype was highest when the technology was, if you experienced it in person, was just obviously not ready. And yet, as the technology got more and more impressive, even to the point where, you know, I've been on a fully driverless ride on public roads in …”
Ed Niedermeyer Jan 25, 2023 ▶ 9:37 The autonomous car bubble has popped

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
The autonomous car bubble has popped Jan 25, 2023 15m
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