Scott Wu
Co-founder & CEO, Cognition · 1 appearance on the record.
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Scott Wu is the co-founder and CEO of Cognition, an applied AI company known for developing the autonomous coding agent Devin. He previously co-founded the networking platform Lunchclub and won three gold medals at the International Olympiad in Informatics.
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Wu: Google hired Windsurf's core research team while other functions remained intact
“There was a core kind of, like, research and product engineering team that went to Google, and the, all of the other functions were entirely intact, which includes enterprise engineering, infra, deployed engineering go to market, marketing, finance operations,…”
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Wu: Devin performs on average like a junior engineer
“We like to call Devon a junior engineer today. There are some things that an AI, of course, is way, way better than all of us at, you know, especially encyclopedic knowledge and just pulling facts and things like that. There are some things that it's, you know…”
Wu: Enterprises measure 8x to 15x productivity gains using Devin for migrations
“I think in practice what we see with folks, especially in these kind of like enterprise migrations is, is, you know, when folks measure internally, they see something like an eight to 15 X gain for a lot of these use cases with Devon because, Yeah, as you're s…”
Wu: General AI intelligence alone will not solve messy software engineering
“Software engineering in the real world is so messy, you know, and there's all sorts of these things that come up. And I think in practice, you know, most disciplines look like this. And I would say the same thing about law or medicine or, and so on. And so whi…”
Wu: Solved AI benchmarks shift bottleneck to defining real-world benchmarks
“The thing is when that happens, I don't think what we end up with is just pure ASI end of humanity, human knowledge work or whatever. I think the thing that we end up in is basically a point where the hard question is, all right, now what is the benchmark, rig…”
Wu: Seat-based SaaS pricing makes no sense for AI agents
“Seats don't really make sense when it is like, the AI themselves are arguably seats as well, you know, like they're doing a lot of the labor too. And then on the other side, I think you know, usage obviously just goes so naturally with the cogs themselves beca…”
Wu: Language syntax will matter less than product sense in software engineering
“Yeah, I think what we find is, is, and I think this, you know, we'll see this trend generally in software engineering, which is knowing all the little, memorizing all the facts or knowing all the little details or being really good at Syntax of some language o…”
Wu: Developers will stop using code as primary interface in 2-4 years
“I think that there will come a point, and my guess on this point is probably in the neighborhood of, let's say, two, three, four years from now, where we stop using code as the main interface.”
Wu: The transition to AI will create far more software engineers
“Funnily enough, I mean, I think, if anything, we will have way more software engineers, not fewer.”
Wu: Freezing AI models today leaves a decade of product progress
“I think you could freeze all the capabilities today and have no new models and no new research come out and there would still be like a whole decade of product progress to make.”
Wu: Sudden AGI singularity won't happen in the next few years
“My honest opinion is, I think there is some, you know, rapid, singularity, superintelligence thing that people kind of talk about. I would guess It's very hard to say. You know, nothing's impossible, but I would guess that that's not something that happens in …”
Wu: Startup playbook maturity gives experienced founders an advantage
“Maybe harder is not the right word. It's more just that the space is a bit more mature, and there's more of a playbook and like more existing knowledge. Yes. There's obviously something unique with every business, but a lot of the details of, you know, here's …”
Wu: Devin is deployed at thousands of companies including Goldman and Citi
“Devon is deployed in thousands of companies all over the world. You know, we work with some of the biggest banks in the world, like Goldman and Citibank, all the way down to, you know, startups with two or three people.”
Wu: Devin merges 30% to 40% of pull requests in successful orgs
“Typically in a successful org, Devon is merging something in the range of, like, 30 to 40% of all the pull requests that come through.”
Wu: Latest Claude and GPT models outperform predecessors on internal benchmarks
“Yeah, I mean, both of them are, the two of them are better at this benchmark than any of the models that we've seen before this week.”
Wu: Cognition uses Devin to order DoorDash and Amazon packages
“Devon is obviously entirely focused towards software engineering, but like we order our DoorDash on Devon, you know, we order our Amazon packages with Devon, and it's like, there are pieces of that that turn out to work nicely anyway.”
Wu: Candidates interview by building an AI agent in 8 hours
“Our whole interview process, for example for Lotties is basically just having people build their own Devon in, in eight hours and seeing how far they get with it.”
Wu: High school and college students should still study computer science
“People often ask us, like, my son or daughter is in high school or has just started college. Should they even be studying computer science? And my answer is always absolutely yes.”
Wu: AI scales faster because single-player utility lacks hardware barriers
“AI is, I'd say, uniquely different from some of these previous ways, in an important way, which is, you know, personal computer, or internet, or mobile phone. All of these had a, one of two things, or often both. One was a big hardware component, of like, yeah…”
Wu: Google hired Windsurf's core research team while other functions remained intact
“There was a core kind of, like, research and product engineering team that went to Google, and the, all of the other functions were entirely intact, which includes enterprise engineering, infra, deployed engineering go to market, marketing, finance operations,…”
Wu: AI landscape is polarized toward becoming a hyperscaler or bust
“Like maybe one of my hot takes is like, I think for a lot of the big, of course there will be, you know, many medium sized outcomes in AI, but I think In this space, a little bit more so than previous ones, it's a little bit more polarized towards, like, you b…”
Wu: Founders of Perplexity, Pika, and Decagon competed together in math
“Johnny Ho, who's one of the co-founders of Perplexity, for example. Demi Guo, who started Pika. You know, a lot of these, Jesse Zhang, who started Decagon. You know, a lot of us were actually competing in these math and programming competitions in the same yea…”
Wu: Maturing competitive fields shift from intuition to mathematical optimization
“I think for a less mature space, when people don't know what the right questions to ask are, or how to even kind of think about it, like the, what is the right frame of reference? Then I think there's something about just having a really sharp intuition and co…”
Wu: Cognition recently acquired IDE tool Windsurf
“We've been going for the last year and a half, and most recently just acquired Windsurf, and so, you know, Devon, the agent in Windsurf, the IDE, but at a high level, you know, we really want to build the future of software engineering.”
Wu: Developer tools will combine synchronous IDEs with async agents
“And so I think this merged experience that comes up is basically something where for anything that actually needs you in the loop, where you can go and make the decision and you're looking at the high level strategy or deciding what you want to build, you're i…”
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| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| A Cheeky Pint with Cognition CEO Scott Wu | Aug 27, 2025 | 40m |