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DeLuca: Scaling Alcohol-to-Jet and PtL Will Lower SAF Green Premiums

Amelia DeLuca · Understanding SAF buyers · May 16, 2024 · at 18:19

Delta Air Lines CSO Amelia DeLuca discusses how scaling novel SAF pathways will reduce costs compared to feedstock-constrained HEFA fuels.

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“Hefa, Hefa has a hard time of bringing that green premium down dramatically because you're kind of constrained by the used cooking oil constraint. And so, you know, there isn't much more to walk down, but as you get into alcohol to jet and PTL, scalability will bring down that green premium.”

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