techno-economic analysis

7 statements across 2 episodes · 2 bullish · 3 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Oct 5, 2023 by Shayle Kann · across every show →

Everything said about techno-economic analysis, oldest first

Oct 5, 2023
Insight
Kann: Climate startups should isolate speculative modeling to their core tech
“Try to isolate your magical thinking to the technology leap that you need to take. In the first place, because that is within your control much more so than the inputs that you're going to get.”
Shayle Kann Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 19:26 Climate tech startups need strong techno-economic analysis (TEA)
Oct 5, 2023 negative
Insight
Ball: Over-specifying minor components in TEA blinds startups to key economic drivers
“If you're so busy counting the number, you know, the power in your pumps and the number of little widgets and valves and et cetera, you might miss something that's really crucial that actually is a driver of your economics because you were focusing on, on so m…”
Dr. Melissa Ball Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 43:58 Climate tech startups need strong techno-economic analysis (TEA)
Oct 5, 2023 positive
Insight
Thiel: Early deep tech models should prioritize error bars over detail
“It can be helpful just to put error bars and understand the sensitivities on things earlier on and go down the deeper, more detailed design rabbit holes when the higher level stuff is fixed.”
Dr. Greg Thiel Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 45:26 Climate tech startups need strong techno-economic analysis (TEA)
Oct 5, 2023
Assertion Supported
Thiel: Facility installation costs regularly reach 2 to 4x core component costs
“And, you know, thinking about sort of a chemical or a fuel synthesis type process, the core equipment, you know, might only, or the total installed cost of a facility might be two, three, four, even more times the cost of the core componentry itself.”
Dr. Greg Thiel Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 20:28 Climate tech startups need strong techno-economic analysis (TEA)
Oct 5, 2023 positive
Insight
Thiel: Techno-Economic Analysis Helps Early-Stage Startups Prioritize Engineering Resources
“And I think by exploring, you know, maybe A level further in terms of sensitivities and limits in the model, it helps you figure out what matters, what design decisions matter to affordability and hitting the customer value prop and which don't. And when you'…”
Dr. Greg Thiel Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 6:26 Climate tech startups need strong techno-economic analysis (TEA)
Oct 5, 2023 negative
Insight
Kann: Modeling 5-year cost structures with extreme precision wastes time
“If you're using it to get to a ridiculous level of precision on the cost structure that you expect to achieve in, in five years, you've probably wasted some time.”
Shayle Kann Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 47:26 Climate tech startups need strong techno-economic analysis (TEA)
Oct 31, 2024 negative
Opinion
Kann: Climate tech TEA modeling is often done poorly, even by veterans
“And we think it is often done poorly, even sometimes by very experienced entrepreneurs.”
Shayle Kann Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 5:05 Why climate tech startups get this one thing wrong
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