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95% of late-stage growth outcomes hinge on idiosyncratic execution, not macro
“When I look at all of the mistakes that we've made in the last eight, nine years, and all the successes that we've had in that same period of time, 95% of the time, if not more, it's idiosyncratic, is did we get the fundamentals right on the companies that we …”
Physical climate risk is probably unpriced across capital markets
“If it's not priced into municipal bonds, which are place-based, have a long duration to then relatively well traded, then it's probably not priced everywhere.”
Sullivan: Global trade, capital, and labor mobility are reversing in new regime
“We're of the viewer living through a regime change, and that many of the characteristics that characterize the last 30 years or so, things like free movement of capital, free movement of labor, increasing global trade, that actually all these things are likely…”
Sullivan: Hedge fund industry tilts toward a mercenary P&L-driven model
“A lot of the hedge fund industry tilts more towards what I would describe as a more mercenary model and ties to most of the compensation models are specifically a hundred percent formulaic based on your piano and not much else.”
Isch: Heavy equity index concentration is unlikely to change anytime soon
“You don't have to fight that index concentration battle, and that's not something that's necessarily going to change anytime soon.”
Sullivan: Hedge funds are the purest form of active management
“I think of it as the purest form of active management that exists in our industry. There's clarity of what you're trying to do. There was Indexes in long only that created inefficiencies and things that you had to do that weren't necessarily in pursuit of alph…”
Wellington sold nearly 90% of its eligible late-stage holdings in 2021
“We ended up selling in 21 close to 90% of everything that came up, and that included selling some secondary stock in companies that weren't even public, and that's all from my experience from the tech bubble.”
Wellington merger failed because Jack Bogle demanded unilateral decision-making
“Then when he got to combine with Wellington and Thorndike, Doran, Payne, and Lewis to create the merger made in heaven, as he would have described it at the time. And within a couple of years, it just didn't work out because it was a culture clash of the worst…”
Scale and elite managers give Vanguard an advantage in zero-sum markets
“And to think that Wellington and Bailey Gifford and Harbor Vest are not at a competitive advantage to retail investors, people doing this on their own, smaller active management shops, and then you combine that relative talent with what I would call reasonable…”
Overlaying third-party ESG scores without fundamental integration fails long-term
“And the reason I think that's problematic is it's not intrinsic to the investment thesis to the investor himself or herself. And I just think that that whole process makes it less sustainable over time and less likely to generate good outcomes of any type over…”
Third-party ESG ratings will not converge like credit ratings
“And I think that that will remain over time. People sometimes wonder if they'll converge like the credit rating agencies have converged, but I don't think that's the case because they're fundamentally often measuring different things or placing emphasis on thi…”
Physical climate risk is locked in for the next 10 to 15 years
“No matter Which of those two paths that we're on or any of the paths in between the physical manifestations of climate risk over the next 10 to 15 years will be the same.”
Portfolios can cut carbon 20-30% for 50 bps tracking risk
“You start to find that by making small changes, you can reduce your carbon footprint by 20 or 30% with a 50 basis point change in tracking risk. So it seems like a relatively small change in tracking risk or volatility versus some benchmark for a relatively bi…”
Sustainable investment lenses yield insights to beat benchmarks
“What that means is that by looking through a sustainable investment lens, we think that we can add more value. We think this is a unique perspective that leads to differentiated insights. And so therefore it's non-concessionary and we can beat benchmarks by do…”
Isch: Wellington uses center book primarily for risk alignment, not alpha
“We haven't, for the most part, leaned into it as an alpha enhancing tool. There is that capability. We have the transparency, but the primary focus of it is absolutely to make sure that our risks are aligned where we believe the risk is intentional and that it…”
Sullivan: Wellington manages aggregate portfolio risk rather than constraining individual managers
“If you think about a multi-strat hedge fund platform, I generally think there are two ways you can go about that. One is you specifically make sure that every component part you're going to use has been constrained such that it is as pure a form of alpha as yo…”
Sullivan: Part-time hedge fund investing is a bad assumption for success
“I believe really strongly that to perform at the level required to be successful requires it to be almost the only thing you do. The idea that you're going to do that part-time and succeed, I think is a bad assumption.”
Isch: Wellington operates on the lower end of multi-strat leverage deployment
“If you look at the spectrum of what's out there, we're probably going to be on the lower end of the amount of leverage we deploy. We want to be on the client friendly side across multiple dimensions, one of which is liquidity. And we want to be able to stay in…”
Jean Hynes: Wellington will package private market boutiques into multi-strategy platforms
“I think we'll do it in the private space. You take all those small boutiques where people really spend their time and can optimize, but then we can scale them Through platforms and vehicles.”
Hynes: Wellington partnership economics must beat launching an independent firm
“Our private partnership, the ability to become a partner and be an owner in the firm, and the economics have to work out that they're equal to better than setting up your shingles someplace else.”
Hynes: Wellington does not cap or predetermine partnership size
“The size of our partnership will be determined by the amount of people that are having that kind of impact that allows us to grow, add capabilities, serve our clients in all parts of the world. We don't have a determined size.”
Hynes: Lone-wolf investors do not belong at Wellington Management
“If someone wants to be a lone wolf and doesn't want to collaborate, they shouldn't be at Wellington. It's not the place for them. There are many very successful investors who probably are successful in their own right, but we wouldn't benefit from them and the…”
Hynes: Wellington investors launched hedge funds for strategy expression, not compensation
“I think we had interest in running hedge funds in longshore portfolios because we had just great investors who really understood their sectors. They were looking for avenues to express the whole sector. I don't think it was really because of the compensation. …”
Hynes: Market concentration will broaden, favoring active managers over index funds
“I think what will benefit active management is that Concentration broadens. I'm a big believer that those seven companies will be successful only if the benefits broaden to the economy around the world, and so I would suspect that you're in an environment in t…”
Average software valuations retraced to six times sales by mid-2023
“What you saw since November of 21 to now is you've now retraced that entire move, and now the average software company is selling for six times sales, which is at the lower end of the range, and so now you're at a point that you can, again, underwrite to much …”
Wellington's private growth team made only one software investment in 2021
“We,
Only did one software investment in 2021, invested in these other areas of the market that we're involved with.”
Daniel: Major asset managers had zero energy stocks in top 50 holdings
“We took all the large asset management complexes. I think Wellington. Wellington, Fidelity, Neuberger, you name, Capri, you name them, and say, okay, let's figure out where their largest energy exposure is and what number it is in their portfolio. They're taki…”
Jack Bogle started his career focused aggressively on traditional fund sales
“Jack was at the old fashioned mutual fund, balanced fund manager, Wellington management, and he was terrific at doing what was traditional in the trade at those days. Selling, selling, selling, selling. Most of the things that he would now be known for, he was…”
Cromwell: Public markets lack a predefined universe of impact securities
“There's not a universe that's predefined of impact stocks that you can choose from or impact bonds that you can choose from. You have to identify those yourself. And the act of doing that means that you're looking at these companies in a different way than the…”
Physical climate risk is inherently hard to integrate into quant strategies
“Systematic investors are inherently empiricist. And so they're looking for evidence in backward looking data of value creation. Now, trying to apply physical climate risk and look for historical evidence of physical climate risk generating or attracting value …”
Cromwell: Combining equity, credit, and ESG perspectives breaks scripted corporate roadshows
“Adding in this kind of differentiated perspective, ESG and credit and equity all at the same time, you just get to more of a dialogue. It's not a gotcha. It's just really trying to understand the company more holistically. And so we think there's a lot of powe…”
Data gaps in sustainable investing create exploitable inefficiencies
“And in many cases, because sustainable investment is rapidly evolving and changing and misunderstood, and the definitions aren't well known, and the data isn't great, we think that there's actually a lot of inefficiencies created in this rapid change that you …”
Wellington operates without a CIO across 50-plus investment boutiques
“And importantly to our business model, we have this orientation of no CIO, which means we don't have a single decision maker that everyone is feeding the insights to. Instead, we have this concept of having a community of investment boutiques where we have 50 …”
Cromwell: Exclusionary screening causes decision paralysis for asset owners
“So this concept of exclusions was a little bit limiting in terms of the number of people and the types of investors who could get involved because obviously many investors, asset owners, have a wide variety of beneficiaries that have had different experiences …”
Cromwell: Houston will see two extra months of extreme heat annually by 2029
“Houston will have two additional months of extreme heat days unfolding annually in the 2020 to 20 29 period.”
Cromwell: Wellington partnered with Woods Hole on overlooked physical climate risks
“And so when we looked out, we saw a lot of people were focused on transition risk, which is incredibly important. And not very many people were focused on physical risk, and so we decided to spend a lot of time, attention, resources, partnering with a science …”
Hynes: Wellington rejects candidates who require star status
“It goes back to the fact that Wellington is not a star culture. So that goes back to who we hire, If someone needs to be a star, they're not going to be a good fit here.”
Hynes: Wellington tracks sector inflows and IPOs instead of competitor positioning
“I guess we don't spend a lot of time looking at how our competitors are positioned. We try to be extremely independent. But saying that, what we do look at is what are inflows into sector funds? How many IPOs are happening? What's the inflows into the passive …”
Hynes: Wellington candidates undergo 20 to 30 interviews before joining
“One of the things they said is by the time you're done with these 20 or 30 interviews, you actually are ready to join.”
Hynes: Elongating the investment cycle is Wellington's competitive advantage
“People are very short-term. So it's not a pet peeve in the sense that I can ignore most of that short-termism. I mean, that's, I think, one of our competitive advantage, that we can elongate our cycle.”
Hynes: Vanguard's philosophy is low cost across active and passive, not just indexing
“If you listen to Vanguard and what their philosophy is, they're not a passive company. Their philosophy is to be a low cost, both on the active side and the passive side, and there's a place for both passive and a place for active.”
Hynes: Active therapeutic innovation areas have expanded from 15 to 40–50
“So if I look at over my career, there's probably been 15 areas of medicine in any rolling two or three-year period that was changing, and now there's probably 40 or 50 areas of medicine, so there's a lot more change happening in the sector than there has been …”
Hynes: Investors must trim positions when valuations outpace timelines, even if liked
“Knowing at any point in time what that is worth. So there's a long time before this drug makes it to the market, and if it makes it to the market, it's going to be worth this, and sometimes it can get ahead of itself, so being very disciplined about scaling ba…”
Hynes: Sizing thematic insights across multi-stock baskets reduces risk
“Personally love when I can have an insight and I can do it in four or five or six stocks. So I might be able to do it in a big company. If you go back over a decade, if implementing a bet on diabetes, you could do it with big companies, you could do it with sm…”
Williamson: Endowments prioritize total return over benchmark constraints compared to pensions
“What I found is that, as you know, they're very different investors than pension plans. They're not pension plans. They tend to be much longer term. They tend to be more interested in Total return than other issues like fitting things in boxes and some things …”
Williamson: Wellington placed managers on regulatory watchlists for unexplained outperformance
“So one of the things we did at Wellington years ago, I was responsible for overseeing a number of portfolios that the OCC also was responsible for looking at. And they always, of course, wanted us to put things on the watch list if they had underperformed. And…”