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Opinion
Grantham: Goldman and JPMorgan will never tell clients to exit overpriced markets
“You will never hit a Goldman Sachs or a JP Morgan Tell you to get out of the market because it's ludicrously overpriced. Everybody knows today it's ludicrously overpriced, but no one can tell you, and they never will.”
Jeremy Grantham Mar 23, 2026 ▶ 28:53 Jeremy Grantham – Bubbles, Value Investing, and the Long Game at GMO (EP.493)
Insight
The optimal private markets portfolio contains between 22 and 27 funds
“And they've realized that in private markets, for example, the optimal number of funds in a portfolio should actually be between It's like 22 and 27 funds, where as we started shifting there and offering more choice, our clients were like, aren't you diluting …”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 49:19 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Disclosure
J.P. Morgan halted allocations to mega-cap buyout funds in 2013
“So we made a decision in 2013 to stop investing in some of the mega cap buyout funds because we felt like returns were coming down.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 15:45 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Opinion
Masters: The traditional private equity playbook of cheap leverage is dead
“The playbook that was developed in private equity originally used to be buy cheap, deploy the maximum amount of leverage that you conceivably can tolerate. At apparently almost no cost until recently. Cut a lot of costs out of a poorly managed company to cut i…”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 34:39 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
Insight
Emerging markets investing must be run as a standalone horizontal activity
“One of the things I had known about emerging markets is emerging markets is a horizontal activity. I had built it at JPEEP as a horizontal standalone activity. It was not a fixed income subsidiary, not a subsidiary of equities or of anything else. It was its o…”
Nick Rohatyn Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 19:38 Nick Rohatyn – Emerging Markets Multi-Asset Investing at TRG (EP.482)
Insight
Funding source for hedge funds completely shifted from equities to fixed income
“If you asked us 10 years ago, the funding source for most hedge funds was equity, and that's completely shifted. Even in our portfolios, the funding source is fixed income.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 37:34 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Insight
Masters: Corporate innovation inside major banks is not genuine entrepreneurship
“Innovating with such an enormous safety blanket around you and a whole legion of people who are there to make sure you don't screw it up. It doesn't necessarily count as being really entrepreneurial.”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 28:37 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
Assertion Partly supported
Masters: J.P. Morgan intentionally avoided 2006 subprime market despite losing share
“All of that combined with what I think frankly was just a great judgment call on the part of Jamie and the executive management team at JP Morgan later in 2006 and seven in avoiding the subprime home equity lure. The trap. Super extraordinary volumes of activi…”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 16:54 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
Assertion Partly supported
Anchorage Digital holds the exact same federal OCC charter as JPMorgan Chase
“That's what ultimately led us on the path to become the first nationally chartered bank. So we are regulated by the OCC, and we're the only crypto bank that has this ability. And this charter is exactly the same charter as That puts us on the same footing as a…”
Diogo Monica Jun 30, 2022 ▶ 27:54 Diogo Monica – Securing Crypto at Anchorage Digital (EP.259, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.06)
Assertion Supported
Ariely: JPMorgan found his human capital data uncorrelated with ESG
“And the team at JP Morgan did a really nice analysis of our data. They were unbelievably thorough. I was deeply impressed by these guys, and it came basically with very good analysis and result, and it's kind of nice to have somebody like a third It's a little…”
Dan Ariely May 17, 2021 ▶ 48:01 Dan Ariely – The Human Capital Factor (Capital Allocators, EP.195)
Disclosure
J.P. Morgan rejected Madoff in 2008 over front men and impossible returns
“So we met with some front guy, and we had this 19 page questionnaire that we go through as part of our due diligence process, and the very first one is, when can we meet the principal that's making the investment decisions? And they told us, That we wouldn't b…”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 31:45 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Assertion Supported
JPMorgan Chase marked down valuations on some software loans
“JP Morgan marked down some software loans as far as their bank lender.”
Kieran Goodwin Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 43:46 Kieran Goodwin – Private Credit Concerns (EP.494)
Insight
Integrating bank private equity spinouts requires an unbending management hierarchy
“We've done a bunch of arranged marriages, and in those, my conclusion is, You have to have the structure to oversee them, and you have to be very unbending about who's in charge.”
Nick Rohatyn Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 51:16 Nick Rohatyn – Emerging Markets Multi-Asset Investing at TRG (EP.482)
Disclosure
J.P. Morgan favors tender offer funds over interval structures in private credit
“As the industry evolved in private credit, which is the main source of the interval funds, we preferred tender offer funds versus interval. We preferred the concept that in some of the worst market drawdowns that a fund manager could or a board could say it's …”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 38:22 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
J.P. Morgan's largest wealth clients hold less than 5% in venture capital
“If you look at our client portfolios, even for the largest families, venture allocations was still less than five percent. It was 4.85%.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 27:22 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Disclosure
J.P. Morgan vets private equity managers by asking credit lenders for feedback
“If we invest with a private equity manager, we typically go to all the private credit managers and ask how they treat them.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 22:53 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Disclosure
J.P. Morgan rarely takes GP economics, prioritizing fee discounts via MFNs
“We rarely take GP economics. We do from time to time. But we're mostly focused on how do you generate the best net returns? If we're going to bring in institutional size capital, we want to make sure that we get most favored nations and that discount.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 33:28 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Direct investing constitutes less than 5% of large family portfolios
“So direct investing, even of our largest families, is less than five percent of their portfolios, which surprises me because it takes up a lot of conversation because you get excited about those things.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 46:29 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Insight
Fund rejections at J.P. Morgan's investment committee are intentionally rare
“The actual investment decisions, it's rare that you get to investment committee and something's a no because you've already worked on all these processes before then.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 32:03 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Assertion Partly supported
Bessent: Soros bought Jon Corzine's $3.5B Italian bond liquidation in 2011
“I think five days in, the biggest trade I'd ever done was John Corzine's firm got liquidated out of their Italian bond position, and it was a three and a half billion dollar trade. I still had the index card that I worked it out on. JP Morgan called us, and I …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 36:22 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Opinion
Gleich: Jamie Dimon is one of the best CEOs in history
“And JP Morgan, I think, has one of the best CEOs in history, Jamie Dimon. I think he's amazing.”
Kristof Gleich Oct 10, 2024 ▶ 6:32 Kristof Gleich – Boutique Managers and Active ETFs at Harbor Capital (EP.411)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Assaf: ICG left JPMorgan post-Bear merger over funds placement conflicts
“JPMorgan wanted us to stay. They were great too. But we figured out that because they have this massive funds placement business, that business had conflicts with ICG. And when we figured it out, I went to the compliance people and I called our lawyers and sai…”
Jeff Assaf Jul 29, 2024 ▶ 14:10 Jeff Assaf - Protecting Clients and Assets at ICG (EP.398)
Insight
Fink: Hedge fund managers differentiate themselves by responding thoughtfully to bear cases
“Where you really figure out who's got that something extra is when you feed back to them the bear case and say, well, okay, you said this is positive, but what about this risk and what about that risk? And how they respond to those risks, whether they thought …”
Anne-Marie Fink Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 13:15 Anne-Marie Fink - Cutting Edge Pension Investing at SWIB (EP.389)
Assertion Partly supported
Majewski: J.P. Morgan held $10B+ in market value CLOs in 2002
“Now, at the time, the bank had over ten billion dollars of exposure to these investments. The bank's market cap was only around thirty billion dollars at the lows in 2002.”
Tom Majewski Dec 1, 2022 ▶ 6:49 Thomas Majewski – Empty Rooms: Masterclass on CLOs at Eagle Point Credit Management (Capital Allocators, EP. 284)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brosens: Goldman Sachs was considered a 'middling firm' early in his career
“It was viewed as kind of a middling firm at the time. The big firms at the time were First Boston, Morgan Stanley. The banks really weren't players in the space. JP Morgan wasn't really considered a competitor. There were other smaller firms, Bear Stearns, et …”
Frank Brosens Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 8:28 Frank Brosens – Culture and Partnership at Taconic Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.282)
Insight
Forman: Holding USDT or USDC Carries Issuer Counterparty Risk Like Bank Deposits
“So if you own USDT, you're taking tether counterparty risk. How do you price that? What return do you need to earn to make that worth your while? If you own USDC, you're taking kind of circle counterparty risk, and you're making a bet on their risk management.…”
Ben Forman Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 35:53 Ben Forman – Opportunities in DeFi (EP.256, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.03)
Insight
Analyzing Brazilian Banks Requires Researching Global Private Fintechs
“In order to understand a Brazilian bank, you have to look at the private banks, the startups, and you have to look at the international banks, either JP Morgan or Chime or Revolut or others.”
Florian Bartunek Jan 20, 2022 ▶ 28:50 Florian Bartunek – Equities in Brazil at Constellation Asset Management (Manager Meetings, EP.27)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Friedman: Big US banks will not see massive regulatory relief
“I think you're not going to get massive changes for the big banks, because the Federal Reserve Board's view is, look, we care about the 10 big banks in this country. They're significant. JP Morgan is systemically important. Citicorp is systemically important, …”
Manny Friedman Jul 23, 2018 ▶ 41:25 Manny Friedman – Non-Linear Financial Systems (Capital Allocators, EP.61)
Assertion Supported
Cembalest: Mexican Assets Became Top Performers in Decade Post-1994 Devaluation
“And in 1994, after the Mexican peso devaluation, you couldn't sell a peso denominated asset or a dollar denominated asset with exposure to Mexico to anybody, and over the subsequent decade, all sorts of Mexican denominated assets were among the best performing…”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 10:13 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Disclosure
Cembalest: J.P. Morgan warned clients away from Puerto Rico debt in 2014
“We warned our clients aggressively away from everything having to do with Puerto Rico, you know, in, in, in 2014 or wherever they did that long-term debt placement because the fundamentals are awful.”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 15:41 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Disclosure
Cembalest: J.P. Morgan Rejected Leveraged Structured Notes Despite Competitive Pressure
“You know, as a global firm with a global reputation and with fiduciary mindset on, there were a lot of times when I said that we're just not going to do that. And I understand this puts competitive pressure on you, but these things don't make sense.”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 29:53 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Exposing false data reversed a J.P. Morgan management decision within a month
“Within a month, the decision was reversed, and some people were gone.”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 1:04:37 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Disclosure
Cembalest liquidated $5 billion from J.P. Morgan's emerging markets portfolio in 1998
“And in the summer, in May, June, July of 1998, I sold five out of that six billion.”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 14:13 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Rohatyn executed J.P. Morgan's first-ever interest rate swap in 1983
“And in fact, I'm proud to say I executed the first interest rate swap ever at JP Morgan in 1983.”
Nick Rohatyn Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 7:49 Nick Rohatyn – Emerging Markets Multi-Asset Investing at TRG (EP.482)
Assertion Supported
Rohatyn created the first emerging market bond benchmark at J.P. Morgan
“I was responsible for building the first bond benchmark in emerging markets. It was called the Emerging Market Bond Index, MB. I did that at the time at JP in order to help grow the pie because I, of this exact point, people needed a benchmark.”
Nick Rohatyn Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 24:03 Nick Rohatyn – Emerging Markets Multi-Asset Investing at TRG (EP.482)
Disclosure
J.P. Morgan sees hedge fund flows rebound after seven years of outflows
“We went from a period in 2014 where we made a strategic asset allocation shift downwards in hedge funds as we thought that rates were going to stay lower for longer. So our strategic asset allocation is 10%. We had negative flows for a period of almost seven y…”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 47:16 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Assertion Supported
J.P. Morgan manages $178 billion in alternative investments
“It's not as significant as the portfolios that we manage on behalf of clients, which is almost a half a trillion dollars, but a lot of what we do in alternatives, which is about a hundred and seventy eight billion dollars, where we allocate to a lot of non JP …”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 10:58 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Assertion Supported
J.P. Morgan's top 200 family offices average a 46% alternatives allocation
“We run a family office report. We started it a couple years ago where we go to the top 200 families. About 25% of it was in pure equities. 46% of it was in alternatives. And the remainder, about just over 20%, was in fixed income. Started the family office sid…”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 12:44 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Assertion Supported
Masters: J.P. Morgan lagged peers in 2001 due to retained credit exposures
“JP Morgan did not come out of 2001 covered in glory. JP Morgan came out of 2001 very much at the bottom of the pack. And the reason for that had to do with the extent of the retained credit positions in leverage and high-yield credits and associated Private eq…”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 16:02 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
Assertion Supported
Chhabra: Charles Schwab's market value exceeded JP Morgan's around 1999
“I believe, if I have my facts right, that the market value of Schwab exceeded The market value of JP Morgan, and Morgan, in some sense, was in an existential crisis, especially the private bank”
Ashvin Chhabra Jul 4, 2022 ▶ 11:16 Ashvin Chhabra – The Aspirational Investor (Capital Allocators, EP.260)
Assertion Supported
Baumgartner: 2014–2018 equity returns doubled consensus forecasts while volatility halved
“Back in 2013, 20 14, you've got bears projecting low returns... You've got folks like Goldman and JP Morgan, and the folks who publish capital market expectations, and you see, eh, equities, seven percent annualized return, 15% vol... Now, you fast forward fiv…”
Mark Baumgartner Nov 26, 2018 ▶ 28:33 Mark Baumgartner – Luck, Risk and Uncertainty at the Institute for Advanced Study (Capital Allocators, EP.77)
Assertion Supported
Hedge funds generate massive short-term capital gains for taxable clients
“Hedge funds for clients that are taxable versus non-taxable because hedge funds generate enormous amounts of short-term capital gains to ordinary income.”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 28:31 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Disclosure
Masters joined J.P. Morgan's five-person global commodity derivative team
“When I graduated and joined full time, I joined the Global Commodity Derivative Group, which consists, I think, of about four people and me. I was the only girl or woman. The bank had been in the business of bullion and related precious metals for many decades…”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 13:09 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
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