Wesleyan University

17 statements across 1 episodes · 3 bullish · 5 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Dec 2, 2019 by Anne Martin · said 25 times in 4 episodes since 2019 · across every show →

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Dec 2, 2019 positive
Opinion
Martin: Bias against bombastic managers probably favors the endowment
“There's lots of opportunities, so it's, I think it's okay, and I don't have any facts to prove this, but I think the bias is probably in our favor on that one.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 18:54 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wesleyan Endowment Was Non-Compliant with Decades-Old Policies When Martin Arrived
“There was one person there with some institutional memory. There were a lot of Excel spreadsheets with our historical performance, none of which I was certain didn't have fat finger errors in them. And there was a portfolio with 26 managers in it. And there wa…”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 22:15 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan Will Always Hold a Larger Public Equity Portfolio Than Yale
“We have a much larger public equity portfolio than Yale does, and we probably always will.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 26:33 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019
Insight
Martin: Inability to Clearly Explain Strategy or Do Mental Math Exposes Managers
“People aren't clear about what they're doing. They can't really articulate it for you. If it's a complex area, they can't put it in terms that you understand. Too much jargon. Math. Can't do math in their heads. Things like that.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 41:04 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan eliminated its dedicated oil and gas allocation target
“Well, I think one thing we've done is gotten rid of the target for oil and gas, which doesn't mean we can't do it. We can, and we have some managers we really like that we think hit the hurdle, but they have to compete against the rest of portfolio, and they h…”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 43:36 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019
Insight
Martin: Smaller endowments must be price takers rather than negotiating fund terms
“We are not price negotiators. I spent a lot of time at Yale Working on LPAs and negotiating terms, we were going to be a price taker. So it was sort of a take it or leave it decision when we found managers we liked rather than, I mean, and yes, we like to say …”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 24:33 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019
Disclosure
Martin: Managers must be articulate enough to reveal their thinking
“I don't really have to like the person, but I have to respect them enough, and I have to be able to have a conversation with them, and they have to be interesting enough and articulate enough to help me get inside their mind.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 19:41 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan's $200M debt prevented endowment from matching Yale's illiquidity
“We had about two hundred million dollars of debt outstanding at the university when I came on a five hundred million dollar endowment pool. So we knew we could not generate liquidity by going back out to the capital market. So we had to generate all our liquid…”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 23:42 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan deliberately excludes mining and non-US real estate investments
“So right off the bat, we said, look, we're not going to do any mining. We're not going to do any real estate outside of the US. We're not going to go to these parts of the world. It doesn't matter if that's in the index. We're just not doing it.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 38:41 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan Explored Brazil for Years Without Selecting Any Managers
“There was a period of time, four years or five years, we went to Brazil a ton, and we ended up with no managers there.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 27:34 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Martin: Settling for Lower-Conviction Managers in China Resulted in Failure
“In China, for example, we're seeing some really interesting managers, but if you go back eight years ago, I think they were fewer and farther between, and we settled a couple times to get the exposure and to get some learning under our belt, and, you know, in …”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 27:48 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan manages its endowment with five people across ~60 managers
“I think we're somewhere around 60 managers across the entire endowment, and there are five of us.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 36:29 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Martin Refuses Meetings for Factor Risk and Smart Beta Products
“One of the ways we do that is we don't go to any conferences. Another way we do that is we don't meet with any firms that are trying to sell us, you know, factor risk or smart beta or any of those things”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 46:45 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019
Disclosure
Martin: Wesleyan raised its illiquidity ceiling from 35% to 42%
“So when I started, it was about 35% we set as a ceiling, and now it's up to 42%. But we've had to do that gradually over time, and at a billion, we've got more room to do that.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 24:09 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019
Insight
Martin: Wesleyan prefers high-confidence 12% returns over uncertain 16-17% returns
“But I would rather have a high confidence, 12% return than a really not high confidence, 16% return or 17% return.”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 40:15 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 neutral
Insight
Martin: Allocators are three funds deep before knowing if emerging VC succeeds
“Because venture has such a long feedback loop, that you're going to be on the third fund before you really even know, and that gets back to, like, how are you going to size if you do decide to do some emerging manager? How do you size it so that you're not, wh…”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 32:05 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
Dec 2, 2019 positive
Insight
Martin: Allocators Should Avoid Investing With Managers They Wouldn't Dine With
“If you don't want to go to dinner with them, I often tell my group this now, if you don't want to go to dinner with them, let's not invest with them. Because you're not really investing for the good times, you're investing for the really terrible times when yo…”
Anne Martin Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 17:55 Anne Martin - Pulling the Oars as CIO of Wesleyan University (Capital Allocators, EP.114)
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