rating agencies

5 statements across 5 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Jun 25, 2018 by James Aitken · across every show →

Everything said about rating agencies, oldest first

Jun 25, 2018 neutral
Assertion Supported
July 2007 CDO Downgrades Marked the Financial Crisis Point of No Return
“The CDOs were non-mark to market vehicles unless and until they were downgraded. And once they were downgraded, it was price discovery free for all. And that was the end of it. That was the point of no return.”
James Aitken Jun 25, 2018 ▶ 14:25 James Aitken – Macro Strategist Extraordinaire (Capital Allocators, EP.58)
May 25, 2020 bearish
Insight
Jefferson: Quantifying credit risk statistically has never worked and never will
“Trying to quantify credit is something which has never worked and I don't think ever will, because you're basically saying, okay, these guys at the rating agencies, they did it right, or I'm missing the motivations of the underlying leverage.”
Brett Jefferson May 25, 2020 ▶ 55:33 Brett Jefferson – Inefficiencies in Structured Credit at Hildene Capital Management (First Meeting, EP.19)
Feb 26, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Milken: Tesla Lacked an Investment-Grade Rating Even Near a $1T Market Cap
“Tesla was not investment grade that even it was approaching a trillion dollars in market cap.”
Michael Milken Feb 26, 2024 ▶ 46:29 Michael Milken – Innovations in Finance, Medicine, and Education (EP.371)
Sep 12, 2024
Insight
Agencies routinely rating 6x leveraged companies as CCC creates artificial yield premiums
“But if a company has six times leverage, typically it will be rated triple C by the agencies. It's just The convention , they have an impossible job of trying to put a lot of risk factors in just a handful of buckets. So one is leverage and that triple C ratin…”
Dave Brizano Sep 12, 2024 ▶ 14:37 David Breazzano - High Yields and Low Risk at Polen Capital (EP.405)
Nov 21, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Rating agency participation unlocked syndicated securitizations for HomeTap in 2024
“We've done just this year, multiple securitizations. There's now ratings in this industry, so the rating agencies are able to provide ratings to these assets, which is now led for broadly syndicated securitizations, which brings new capital partners in.”
Jeff Glass Nov 21, 2024 ▶ 39:44 Jeff Glass - Home Equity Investment at Hometap (EP.418)
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