CalPERS

27 statements across 8 episodes · 11 bullish · 5 bearish · 7 people on the record · first statement Oct 23, 2017 by Ashby Monk · said 99 times in 25 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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brought up most by Ted Seides (32), Roz Hewsenian (22), Ashby Monk (17), Stephen Gilmore (8), Steve Nesbitt (2), Steve Moseley (2), Jim Dunn (2), Chris Ailman (2)

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Everything said about CalPERS, oldest first

Oct 23, 2017 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Monk: CalPERS paid $4B in private equity carry over five years
“CalPERS is having it now. They realize they, what was it, four billion dollars in private equity carry was paid to GPs alone over a five-year period.”
Ashby Monk Oct 23, 2017 ▶ 28:59 Ashby Monk – Asset Giant Futurist (Capital Allocators, EP.29)
Aug 6, 2018
Insight
Consultants should never say no outright to institutional clients
“You never say no, and then figure out how to give them at least some of what they want, so that this way you show them that you've heard them, and that's 90% of what the issue is. The client wants to be heard.”
Roz Hewsenian Aug 6, 2018 ▶ 19:57 Roz Hewsenian –Helmsley Trust's Chief of People and Process (Capital Allocators, EP.63)
Aug 6, 2018 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
CalPERS eliminated its hedge fund program after top funds refused fee cuts
“The best hedge funds wanted nothing to do with CalPERS because CalPERS wasn't willing to pay their fees, and Ted Eliopoulos, the chief investment officer, eliminated the hedge fund program”
Roz Hewsenian Aug 6, 2018 ▶ 24:46 Roz Hewsenian –Helmsley Trust's Chief of People and Process (Capital Allocators, EP.63)
Aug 6, 2018
Assertion Partly supported
CalPERS indexed significant assets to the Wilshire 5000 upon Wilshire's recommendation
“From a cost standpoint and from a volume standpoint, CalPERS at Wilshire's recommendation has a significant portion of its assets indexed to the Wilshire 5000 stock index.”
Roz Hewsenian Aug 6, 2018 ▶ 24:10 Roz Hewsenian –Helmsley Trust's Chief of People and Process (Capital Allocators, EP.63)
Feb 11, 2019 positive
What-if
Full Portfolio Put Protection in 2007 Would Have Cost 300 Bps
“We even, I remember in oh seven being called into the Department of Finance to ask myself and the counterpart at CalPERS to price out buying puts for the entire portfolio. And we came back and said, you know, it'll cost you 300 basis points on the return. Woul…”
Chris Ailman Feb 11, 2019 ▶ 37:34 Chris Ailman – CalSTRS' Venerable CIO (Capital Allocators, EP.86)
Feb 11, 2019 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
US Is Unique in Keeping Public Pensions Embedded Inside Government
“The USA is about the only place Where particularly the pension plan asset management side is still very much part of the governmental entity. We're definitely in the org chart under the executive branch of California state government, right there with CalPERS …”
Chris Ailman Feb 11, 2019 ▶ 9:10 Chris Ailman – CalSTRS' Venerable CIO (Capital Allocators, EP.86)
Jul 9, 2020 neutral
Insight
Mizuno: Pension CIO decisions make marginal difference compared to board asset mix
“Well, the point is, most of the big asset owners, let's take public pension fund as an example, GPF, Culpers, Coasters, and all the big public pension funds, their most critical decision In terms of the financial performance of their portfolio performance is n…”
Hiro Mizuno Jul 9, 2020 ▶ 10:56 Sustainable Investing 10: Hiro Mizuno – Changing the Game (Capital Allocators, EP.148)
Feb 8, 2021 neutral
Insight
Baran: Japan's governance reform is driven by domestic pensions, not foreign activists
“This is not a CalPERS, CalSTRS, Hermes problem. This is a Japanese pension fund problem that the Japanese have to decide for themselves To start paying their beneficiaries properly.”
David Baran Feb 8, 2021 ▶ 37:19 David Baran and Kazuhiko Shibata – Friendly Activism in Japan at Symphony (Capital Allocators, EP.176)
May 24, 2021 negative
Insight
Monk: Permanent allocator monopolies remove organizational survival pressure to innovate
“Most of these organizations have monopolies over the asset base, which means Stanford management company isn't going away. CalPERS isn't going away, but the people in those organizations can be fired. And so you as an employee of these organizations, and I'm n…”
Ashby Monk May 24, 2021 ▶ 21:42 Ashby Monk – Innovation in Institutional Portfolios (Capital Allocators, EP.196)
May 24, 2021
Insight
Monk: Asset owners innovate by pooling career risk with peer institutions
“How is like we've seen, and I've written about this like collaborative model of investment where Pension funds and endowments and sovereign funds will come together and collaborate. They'll pool resources. They will pool career risk. If I'm working with Ontari…”
Ashby Monk May 24, 2021 ▶ 25:34 Ashby Monk – Innovation in Institutional Portfolios (Capital Allocators, EP.196)
May 24, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
Monk: Fee transparency drove portfolio changes at CalPERS, CalSTRS, and UC Regents
“We've seen tons of examples like CalPERS and CalSTRS and even UC Regents where fees and costs have driven changes in their portfolio, just the transparency.”
Ashby Monk May 24, 2021 ▶ 17:01 Ashby Monk – Innovation in Institutional Portfolios (Capital Allocators, EP.196)
Nov 28, 2022 positive
Opinion
Van Vleet: $8B to $10B is the optimal pension fund size
“It's, a lot of it is because we're at a size of ten billion. I can do that. Again, I really feel for the people at CalPERS who you just can't move the needle, and I feel badly for the firms that are, you know, five hundred million to a billion, you're not goin…”
Charles Van Vleet Nov 28, 2022 ▶ 40:50 Charles Van Vleet – Thinking Differently with Pensions at Textron (Capital Allocators, EP. 283)
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Gilmore: CalPERS must invest bulk of capital through larger managers
“The reality is that the bulk of capital is going to be invested through larger managers because of the size of our portfolio.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 41:54 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilmore: CalPERS compensates staff on total portfolio results, not asset classes
“Some years earlier, Marcy had changed the compensation structure so that everyone got rewarded on the basis of the whole portfolio, not their asset class.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 24:40 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilmore: CalPERS equity and fixed income teams generated strong unscaled information ratios
“The equity team, the fixed income team have been good at generating good information ratios, but it hasn't been scaled, which I found interesting because there have been constraints on the active risks that can be taken and sub-constraints.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 39:31 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Gilmore: Reference portfolios improve pension management accountability
“With our proposed approach for the total portfolio, the board adopts a reference portfolio, and that corresponds to a particular amount of risk, but it's the management that is using its initiative to propose the portfolio and to invest the portfolio. The mana…”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 22:44 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilmore: CalPERS' legacy SAA permitted ~450 bps of active risk
“What we did was to look at how much that variation would aggregate up to in terms of the leeway management had been delegated. We estimated that that amounted to around about 450 basis points of active risk using all the policy ranges.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 18:39 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Gilmore: CalPERS recommended a 75/25 reference portfolio with 400bps active risk
“We've recommended a 75% equity, 25% bond portfolio. We've recommended an active risk range around 400 basis points.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 26:57 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Gilmore: CalPERS will limit direct private investments and expand public market activity
“I don't anticipate that we will be particularly active direct privates apart from co-investment, but I expect that we will become more active in the public markets given the balance sheet management and our improved liquidity management.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 30:21 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Gilmore: Total Portfolio Approach enables more concentrated asset class portfolios
“When you're thinking about its contribution to the whole portfolio, you should be much more comfortable in having a more concentrated asset class portfolio because it gets diversified away at the whole portfolio level.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 35:48 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 negative
Opinion
Gilmore: CalPERS historically destroyed value through pro-cyclical de-risking during crises
“One of the things that has attracted value from the CalPERS experience has been a tendency to be too pro-cyclical. If you think back to the time of the financial crisis, Various assets were liquidated. Risk was taken off. That was done in part because of conce…”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 21:30 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilmore: NZ Super won via heavy bet sizing, not a high win rate
“If you look at all the different investment strategies, when I first looked at the analysis, I thought, well, actually the hit rate or the banning average is pretty ordinary. That's not that unusual, but the slugging average was amazing. The areas that it did …”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 43:41 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilmore: A simple stock-bond mix closely tracks most complex pension portfolios
“You can take a simple combination of equities and bonds, and it will track the actual portfolio very closely. And that'll be the case for most pension funds.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 24:14 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilmore: CalPERS is currently just over 80% funded
“We're just over 80% funded.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 27:14 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Gilmore: Total portfolio approach captures hybrid investments that SAA buckets miss
“If you're sitting there with a strategic asset allocation, and you've got all these asset classes, it could be that you've got a hybrid, where does it sit? Or there could be something that's new, and you don't have a bucket for it. It's hard to do. With the to…”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 54:47 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Gilmore: CalPERS seeks deployment flexibility rather than increased active risk
“With the transition to a total portfolio approach, we weren't asking for that much active risk. We were asking for more flexibility in how we used it.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 18:57 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
Feb 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Gilmore: Scenario analysis should replace simple correlation in measuring diversification
“Rather than simply looking at historical correlations, one needs to be thinking about multi-dimensional scenarios and to think about how the portfolio behaves given those scenarios.”
Stephen Gilmore Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 37:31 Stephen Gilmore – CalPERS' Total Portfolio Approach (EP.486)
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