2008 financial crisis

12 statements across 12 episodes · 2 bullish · 8 bearish · 12 people on the record · first statement May 30, 2017 by Jeffrey Solomon · across every show →

Everything said about 2008 financial crisis, oldest first

May 30, 2017 bearish
Insight
Solomon: Markets underestimate the impact of contagion during financial crises
“The contagion issue is probably more impactful in times of stress than Then people give it credit for. Now that's, and that's the same story in 2008 was a giant contagion trade.”
Jeffrey Solomon May 30, 2017 ▶ 16:31 Jeffrey Solomon – Vision, Tenacity, and Empathy (Capital Allocators, EP.09)
Sep 4, 2017 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Dunn: Wake Forest endowment lost 28% in 2008
“Looking at Wake Forest again, they had lost two, 28% in 2008 before I joined.”
Jim Dunn Sep 4, 2017 ▶ 21:01 Jim Dunn – Protect, Perform, Provide (Capital Allocators, EP.24)
Dec 11, 2017 bullish
Assertion Supported
Acito: Pre-crisis $3 billion credit firms have grown into $30 billion platforms
“Prior to crisis would have been a terrific business at three and four billion dollars. Now they're 30 and forty billion dollar businesses.”
Chris Acito Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 38:00 Chris Acito – Credit Where Credit is Due (Capital Allocators, EP.33)
Apr 2, 2018 negative
Opinion
Redleaf: Originate-to-distribute and misaligned incentives did not cause the 2008 crisis
“People and regulators and so forth talk about the originating to distribute as the problem of the financial crisis. I think that that's completely wrong. It's not the case that incentives were misaligned. I mean, all of Lehman's employees Had the bulk of their…”
Andy Redleaf Apr 2, 2018 ▶ 36:12 Andy Redleaf - Evolution of Markets (Capital Allocators, EP.46)
Jul 23, 2018
Disclosure
Friedman: Lost substantial money in 2008 despite anticipating the crisis
“That doesn't mean I didn't lose lots of money on the financial crisis, because even when you know something, you sometimes have trouble acting.”
Manny Friedman Jul 23, 2018 ▶ 15:46 Manny Friedman – Non-Linear Financial Systems (Capital Allocators, EP.61)
Oct 29, 2018 negative
Insight
Scheer: Moving average spending rules effectively doubled drawdowns after 2008
“After 2008, people were spending five percent Based on the last couple of years values, which was 10% based on their 2009 values. And so what that does is it takes a significant number of dollars out of the endowment. So it is very difficult to recover. The nu…”
Karl Scheer Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 41:30 Karl Scheer – Competing Sensibly as CIO of the University of Cincinnati (EP.74)
Feb 4, 2019 negative
Opinion
Kuhn: Launching a Hedge Fund Is Harder Post-2008 Than Ever
“One thing that I've told people, I think it's become more difficult to launch a hedge fund now than probably ever in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.”
Steve Kuhn Feb 4, 2019 ▶ 23:27 Steve Kuhn – Life After Hedge Funds (Capital Allocators, EP.85)
Feb 11, 2019 neutral
Insight
A 2008-Scale Market Crash Is a 60-to-70-Year Event
“We spent a lot of time really studying 2008. We thought it was a one, 1.5% likely occurrence, and realized that, you know what, in this day and age, it's probably closer to a four percent occurrence. And for the listeners, that's in essence, instead of a hundr…”
Chris Ailman Feb 11, 2019 ▶ 36:28 Chris Ailman – CalSTRS' Venerable CIO (Capital Allocators, EP.86)
Mar 24, 2022 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Heller: Mainstream alternative asset classes failed to provide diversification in 2008
“When we went through 2008, we got very little diversification from our quote unquote alternative asset classes.”
Chris Heller Mar 24, 2022 ▶ 9:28 Chris Heller - Weird Alternatives at Cordillera Investment Partners (Manager Meetings, EP.28)
Jun 20, 2022 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Forman: Lehman executives did not know the risk on their balance sheet
“One of the reasons that the financial crisis occurred in oh eight, oh nine is if you were to look at The TenQ of Lehman Brothers. Last filing before it went bankrupt. There's a big other line item on the balance sheet. You have to read into the footnotes. No o…”
Ben Forman Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 29:59 Ben Forman – Opportunities in DeFi (EP.256, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.03)
Oct 10, 2022 bearish
Assertion Supported
Gave: 2022 diversified portfolio losses are larger than in 2008
“So actually the total capital losses this time around are bigger than they were in 2008. Cause in 2008, if you had a diversified portfolio, you took your licks on your equities, but your bonds came through.”
Louis-Vincent Gave Oct 10, 2022 ▶ 8:21 Louis-Vincent Gave – The Case for Emerging Markets (Capital Allocators, EP.275)
Jul 8, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Connaughton: Bain turned a 0.65x marked-down fund into over 2x return
“We had 250 people. Two thirds of those people were working inside the companies and we call it getting across the icy river. We got across the icy river, which was probably in some ways we'll never get rewarded for it, but it was probably one of our finest mom…”
John Connaughton Jul 8, 2024 ▶ 40:16 Training Grounds: Bain Capital, John Connaughton (EP.395)
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