Joe Lonsdale

Founder & Managing Partner, 8VC · 2 appearances on the record.

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He co-founded Palantir Technologies, as well as software platforms Addepar and OpenGov. Through his venture firm 8VC, he invests across defense technology, life sciences, and enterprise infrastructure.

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Lonsdale: Harris-Warren price gouging proposal covers 23,000 large companies
“Well, if you look at the price gouging law that Kamala Harris and Senator Warren and all these people on the very extreme left were putting forward, it's actually something that applies to about 23,000 big companies, and it would give them a lot of arbitrary p…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 19:55 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale

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Everything Joe Lonsdale said on BigDeal that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Lonsdale: Government regulators target Elon Musk to punish public speech
“If they want to go to attack Elon to punish him for speaking up, they will, and they do.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 21:45 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Lonsdale: Fund managers hide conservative views to preserve pension fund LP capital
“And I have a lot of friends who in person are like, Joe, I totally agree with you. This is crazy. Like, I can't believe they're doing this. This is so wrong. But of course, I can't say that in public. I'd mess up all my fundraising with all these pension funds…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 15:23 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Lonsdale: Harris-Warren price gouging proposal covers 23,000 large companies
“Well, if you look at the price gouging law that Kamala Harris and Senator Warren and all these people on the very extreme left were putting forward, it's actually something that applies to about 23,000 big companies, and it would give them a lot of arbitrary p…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 19:55 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Partly supported
Lonsdale: US federal government abandoned merit-based testing 45 years ago
“So this was basically a form of DEI. It's like proto-DEI in the late seventies, and it was under Jimmy Carter's administration, and then eventually the courts pushed it and finalized it in the early eighties. So for 45 years, We haven't had merit-based tests i…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 25:20 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: Palantir Helped Reduce IED Deaths in Iraq
“Palatine worked because we worked really closely with a lot of the special forces communities and the teams and people like that who were competent, and we helped go to Iraq, we helped reduce the number of IED deaths, and really kind of, you know, fix things, …”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 4:31 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Lonsdale: Billionaires avoid public attacks by echoing moderate Democratic stances
“If you're a billionaire in our country, If you just put out, like, standard kind of moderate left Democratic stuff that goes along with that party, then you're like, you're totally fine, and everyone's going to like you, and everyone's going to not attack you.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 15:07 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Lonsdale: Recessions are necessary to prune unproductive parts of the economy
“Recessions are actually good to have every once in a while. They clean out a lot of nonsense. You know, what happens is there's a lot of resources being used for things that are not productive in the economy, and you need a sensor mechanism. You need certain t…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 29:19 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Lonsdale: Startup CEOs earning under $75k massively outperformed higher-paid peers
“You know, actually when I was working with Peter Thiel, must have been 21 or so, we conducted a study he had me look into of CEO salaries. And so it turned out there were three different cohorts. At the time salaries were lower. This was turning 42 this week. …”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 36:42 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: $300B annually goes to unaccountable progressive NGOs
“You literally have, I think, three hundred billion a year are going to NGOs, which is the non-government organizations. These are mostly nonprofits that are, like, trying to, like, do things with progressives, right, and trying to create more activists, and, l…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 47:24 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Lonsdale: Many AI developers lack liberty frameworks and lean authoritarian
“I think a lot of people working in AI right now don't understand, like, the frameworks of liberty and why our civilization works the way it does, and it's very scary because they have these very authoritarian biases if they're not careful,”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 1:05:02 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: Outcome-based funding doubled vocational school graduate salaries over 7 years
“Starting next year, we're gonna fund these things in proportion to the average salary of their students coming out. Brilliant. And so suddenly, they can't game that. They actually, so the schools freak out, and they're like, what skills do we gotta teach our s…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 1:14:22 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Lonsdale: Smart people in science and engineering instinctively ask why ideas fail
“I think most people who had to consider smart people, you know, that I met at university or in science and engineering, I think their first question is usually why it won't work.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 8:52 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: A major civil war is occurring within the Texas Republican Party
“There's a huge civil war here in Texas as well on the right. It's a big deal right now.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 12:20 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Lonsdale: Businesses reward lean efficiency while government incentivizes headcount growth
“There's, it's even worse than that too, because your reputation is like how many people who work for you. So they're all trying to justify, like in my companies, like if it's run well, you're trying to justify how to do something with less expense and fewer re…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 26:57 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Lonsdale: Capping insurer margins incentivizes higher healthcare costs
“And it turns out that we've capped the margins for healthcare. It sounds good. You don't want the insurance companies making too much money. But because we've capped the margins, and because they make 20%, their incentive is now to make healthcare as expensive…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 1:02:08 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale recalls 2015 dinner where Musk and Zuckerberg debated AI risk
“So about nine years ago in California, I used to live in California here in Texas, which we love, but I had a dinner with, it was actually Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg and about five other friends about AI. And this is like well before OpenAI, you know, all o…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 1:05:40 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Lonsdale: Every entrepreneur needs a written 10-page deck
“This is why building a deck is really good for an entrepreneur, even if it's a small business, is you want to put together, here's 10 pages on who I am, what I'm doing, what the goals are, why it's going to be successful. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs say…”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 4:42 I Asked 6 Billionaires How To Get Rich
Insight
Lonsdale: Powerful Tech Requires Built-In Civil Liberties Protections
“But the whole point is you have to build in all these civil liberties frameworks, and you have to watch it carefully, because when you create power, it can be captured and used for evil.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 4:02 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Lonsdale: Palantir CEO Alex Karp can read people within two minutes
“Alex Karp, who is my co-founder of Palantir, he is this great philosopher and has all these theories of the mind, and he'll meet someone in two minutes and he'll know all sorts of things about them.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 8:10 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2034
Lonsdale: US government will spend $65T to $70T over next decade
“Over the next 10 years, our government's gonna spend, like, probably about 65 to 70 trillion, you know, plus, -10%.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 46:59 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: Thousands of professors applied to University of Austin
“We've had thousands of professors apply, amazing, amazing professors. We have, you know, from top schools and other places who felt persecuted in many cases by the extremes.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 58:26 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Lonsdale: Early elite talent was essential to Palantir's recruiting flywheel
“The reason we were able to recruit a lot of the best people is we started with a bunch of the best people. So it's very chicken and egg. I, you know, from the chess world, from the math world, from Stanford computer science, from my friends who, you know, were…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 1:12:38 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Partly supported
Lonsdale: Addepar Has $7 Trillion on Its Platform
“Out of power is the biggest number, because there's seven trillion dollars on the platform.”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 5:49 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Lonsdale: Palantir gave job candidates three salary and equity options
“So what I did at Palantir is we actually ended up putting this in all of our offers as we'd give them three offers of different salary and different equity. And then we'd show them and we have a little caveat down below. It was kind of fun. We'd show them like…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 38:11 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale

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The other half of the tape: Joe Lonsdale's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 6 times in 3 episodes on BigDeal. 1 statement on the record names them. every mention, with the transcript →

Who brings them up most Codie Sanchez 6

Statements about Joe Lonsdale, by other people (1)

Disclosure
Sanchez: Fired podcast vendor who refused to work on Joe Lonsdale episode
“So, Joe Lonsdale was gonna come on the show, and we had a vendor that was working on our podcast. They do some, what's called pre-production stuff, like come up with thumbnails or their interesting tidbits on the internet. And this young gentleman reached out,…”
Codie Sanchez Oct 1, 2024 ▶ 1:21:04 Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
I Asked 6 Billionaires How To Get Rich Jul 23, 2025 2m
Billionaire Entrepreneur: “America Will Collapse Without A Recession” | Joe Lonsdale Oct 1, 2024 52m
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