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Roy: Meta is becoming Apple's biggest hardware competitor
“Meta is now going to be Apple's biggest competitor in the hardware space. And I never thought that that could be the possible or the case, but I really think that will be the case”
Clegg: Meta Apps Are Now Entertainment Pipelines Competing With TikTok
“The meta social media apps are now competing more and more with Tik Tok and YouTube. They're becoming, they're not really stages on which people generate content, communicate with each other. They are of course pipelines, which entertainment and entertaining a…”
Clegg: AI companions are 'friends as service' that could foster narcissism
“And I realized that actually what they were talking about when they were talking about friends, it's not friends at all. Cause you're not really having to adapt yourself. The entity, the AI entity is entirely adapting itself to you. So my fear, but it's a slig…”
Luria: The AI chatbot market is not winner-take-all
“Unlike Uber and the rideshare market, which lent itself to winner takes most or winner takes all, chat is entirely not like that. Because I could have the same conversation with Gemini, and Meta is going to give me the tools to do this, and Grok is going to gi…”
Meta will use AI chatbot conversations to target Instagram and Facebook ads
“Meta has basically announced that, yeah, we're going to take everything you say to an AI chat bot and we are going to Basically have it affect the kind of ads that you see on Instagram and Facebook. Of course there are some exceptions if you are talking about …”
Roy: Meta Is Winning the Wearable Computing Interface Race
“That's what, that's exactly how I've seen this whole interface of computing for a long time, and they are, they're winning. They're winning right now, and they're moving in the right direction as well.”
Siegler: Meta cannot win the AI race if AGI is 2 years away
“And if we're only a couple of years away, do I think that Meta can win that race? Not if we're a couple of years away, I don't think so.”
Kantrowitz: An AI researcher will secretly work at both Meta and OpenAI
“Mark my words, this is going to happen. We will see this happen. Be sure as day. We're gonna see it. Soham is the leader of a trend, honestly.”
Kantrowitz: Pre-training data walls justify $100M+ packages for top AI talent
“And this is a strength, a sound strategy because you have everybody talking about how pre-training is hitting diminishing returns. You have everybody talking about how data is hitting a wall. And so what do you need? You just need these algorithmic development…”
Patel: Meta treats Llama as a toy rather than approaching AGI correctly
“I think they're treating it as like a sort of like toy within the meta universe. And I don't think that's the correct way to think about AGI.”
Kantrowitz: Meta agrees to $14.8B 49% stake in Scale AI
“Meta has agreed to take a 49%
stake in the data labeling firm Scale AI for 14.8 billion.
Meta will send the cash to Scale's existing shareholders and place the startup CEO Alexander Wang, former Big Technology podcast guest in a top position inside Meta.
Meta…”
Meta and Anduril partner to develop military AR/VR hardware
“Luckey's defense company Andrel and Meta said Thursday that they will together build a line of new rugged helmets, glasses, and other wearables that provide a virtual reality or augmented reality experience.”
Anduril and Meta's Eagle Eye system integrates AI models with battlefield sensors
“The system called Eagle Eye will carry sensors that enhance soldiers' hearing and vision, detecting drones flying miles away or sighting hidden targets, for instance. It will also let soldiers operate and interact with AI-powered weapon systems. Andro's autono…”
LeCun: AI infrastructure will be utilized even without architectural breakthroughs
“Even if the revolution of the new paradigm doesn't come, you know, within three years, this infrastructure is going to be used. There's very little question about that.”
LeCun: Most of Meta's AI capex is for inference infrastructure
“Most of the investment, at least for, from the meta side is investment in infrastructure for inference.”
Meta, OpenAI, and Anthropic are all hitting walls with model scaling
“So, it could be that this idea of scaling to lead to improvements, which we've talked about on the show a couple, for the past couple weeks this is three, meta, open AI, And Anthropic, they all seem to be, ah, running into some bumps on, in their efforts to im…”
LeCun: Novel AI architectures will reach practical scale in 3 to 5 years
“The question is, you know, when is this going to go from interesting research papers demonstrating a new capability with a new architecture to, you know, architectures at scale that You know, are practical for a lot of applications and can find solutions to ne…”
Link: Amazon will deliver ~20% 5-year CAGR, beating Meta and Google
“And I think you're going to see a CAGR of about 20% for the next five years at this company versus Meta at 13% and versus Google at 12.8%.”
Ives: Meta and Google will eventually integrate into Apple Intelligence
“Apple basically said, we now will be the castle for AI. And if you want access to it, you got to come through Apple intelligence, clearly open AI. I eventually think Meta Google are going to have to make the same move.”
Bosworth: Wrist neural interfaces will eventually work without physical gestures
“Over time, we think we can do that without having any gestures at all. Just having the intention, expressing the intention down your control system.”
Bosworth: AR will conceivably replace smartphones for high-end consumers over time
“We're a long ways from that for a bunch of reasons, not the least of which being the technology is not ready yet, but also because The application ecosystems will take a long time to transfer and user behaviors take a long time to change. So I think we have a …”
Bosworth: Meta has meaningful tech lead in AR over Apple
“I think we've been investing longer. I think we've believed in it more. And as a consequence of frankly, Mark Zuckerberg's faith and tremendous execution by a team of Thousands of people over a long period of years. I think we have a meaningful lead in a bunch…”
AWS's Wood predicts foundation AI models will consolidate to 12-24 major providers
“I think that there's not going to be hundreds of world model providers. I think that there's likely to be maybe a dozen, two dozen, something of that order of magnitude. I think that, you know, Anthropic will be one, Meta will be one, Amazon will be one, there…”
Kantrowitz: AI spending will slow without step-change gains in 18 months
“And from everything that I hear, it's going to be the next 18 months that will basically decide, like, if they do 18 more months of development of these models within OpenAI, within Anthropic, within Microsoft, and Meta, and don't see sort of step change incre…”
Ahmad Al-Dahle says Meta AI will be the best free assistant
“And meta AI is going to be the, you know one of the best if not the best assistant that's available for free.”
Pineau: LLMs are currently the fastest progressing path toward general intelligence
“It gives us a path. It may not be the path, but it gives us at least a path to move towards general intelligence. And it's an exciting one. It's one that, that we're exploring. It doesn't mean that we've stopped exploring other paths towards general intelligen…”
Pineau: Meta's next AI step change requires general and world models
“We've done a ton of work on AI on the platform over the last few years. That was what I would call more narrow specialized models. We can continue to do that, but the bigger step change are gonna come through the more general model, building foundation models,…”
Pineau: AGI will be a network of agents, not a monolithic entity
“Often this notion of general intelligence is, is articulated in, in the context of like a single agent, a single uber intelligent agent. And I don't think that's really where we will move towards either.”
White: Effective Accelerationism just rebrands 'move fast and break things'
“I think it is mostly a rebrand of, you know, move fast, break things, which has been Silicon Valley's, you know, mantra since early Facebook. But with the added sort of religious, almost philosophy behind it, and the very effective altruist style of speaking a…”
Kantrowitz: Meta increased metaverse spending despite its 'Year of Efficiency' cost cuts
“That's actually not what happened. They didn't cut spend at all. They, in fact, increased spend on the metaverse. I mean, they are not taking their foot off the gas pedal there, and they've just tried to trim elsewhere within the company.”
McCullough: Meta Is Most Likely to Dethrone OpenAI Within Three Years
“If someone's gonna dethrone, if OpenAI is and also ran within three years, I bet it'll be Meta. I, my money would be on Meta that would dethrone them, and then maybe Google slash Alphabet.”
Luckey: Meta might have fared better using Magic Leap's closed mystique approach
“I sometimes wonder if that might have been the better play on this metaverse front, to basically tell the public, hey, we're investing in this, and it's going to be amazing, to build some internal prototypes that don't, where you don't have to spend all this m…”
Luckey: Smaller startups will figure out the metaverse before Big Tech
“Honestly, my bet is that a smaller player will Figure it out first, just because there's so many different approaches and it's very hard as a large company to pick one approach that will out-compete every one of the myriad of other approaches that are all comi…”
Luckey: Current VR hardware will not achieve mainstream everyday adoption
“None of those things are going to be ready for quite some time, and the hardware that we have today, it's good for enthusiasts, but the hardware we have today is not going to be something that the majority of people want to use, certainly not as part of their …”
Luckey: Meta's $13B spend only works if you believe in the metaverse
“They can't say it's only for gamers or it's specifically for these niche enterprise use cases and then spend thirteen billion dollars because it just doesn't spreadsheet out. It only works as an investment if you believe in this long-term vision of the metaver…”
Luckey: Microsoft, Apple, or Google would have ruined or canceled Oculus
“VR wasn't on their roadmap, certainly not their ten-year or, you know, long-term roadmap. It was just an interesting thing going on. So even if they would have bought us, it would have been to, you know, use us as a gimmick to sell game consoles, or as an inte…”
Luckey: Meta's Horizon Worlds is 'absolutely terrible'
“Horizon Horizon Worlds is, is absolutely terrible. It's that, that is, that, that's not the metaverse that anyone wants.”
LeCun: Only large, profitable corporations can economically sustain industry AI research
“The economic model The only one I know outside of universities and philanthropy is industry research lab inside of a large company that has, that is profitable and is sufficiently well-established in this market that it can think for the long term and invest i…”
Haugen: Users Found Facebook Feeds Less Meaningful After 2018 Algorithm Change
“Back in 2018, Facebook switched from just seeing how long they could keep you on Facebook, to seeing could they drive you to do interaction. And they called it meaningful social interactions. Stuff that got more interactions was considered better content. Even…”
Haugen: Whistleblower disclosures helped correct Meta's inflated stock price
“I think there's a good chance that the information did cause the stock to correct back to something closer to its natural valuation.”
Haugen: Meta Oversight Board Scope Is Limited Strictly to Moderation Appeals
“It really should be called the content moderation appeals board because that is the entire scope of what they can do. They can't ask about the performance of the content moderation systems. They can't even ask, like, what language are the content moderation sy…”
Haidt: Social media toxicity began with 2009 virality mechanics, not 2004 networking
“Social media was not at all toxic in 2004, you know, when the Facebook came out and in my space, and if you're sharing photos of your dog, there's no problem. It really was the move to the newsfeed and then especially The implementation of the retweet button, …”
Chafkin: Peter Thiel heavily influenced Mark Zuckerberg's corporate control and anti-institutional ideology
“I think that Teal has had, yeah, just an enormous impact on Mark Zuckerberg. Both in terms of like how the company is structured, like the literal way that Zuckerberg you know, got control of Facebook and maintain control of Facebook. And then, but also Yeah, …”
Thiel designed the stock structure that drove Zuckerberg and Saverin apart
“It was Teal who sort of set in motion this stock structure that creates the conflict between Eduardo Saverin and Mark Zuckerberg, which is the, you know, whatever the basis of the social network.”
Ghonim: Ad-driven, investor-controlled social media models are doomed to fail
“Being excited about a tool that that that evolves around financial principles controlled by a bunch of investors trying to amass huge number of audience. And selling advertisement on it, you know, that's, that, that kind of a model in my view, it still exists,…”
Ghonim: Platforms can reduce polarization, but it will decrease revenue
“You can actually reduce polarization. By not building everything just around engagement numbers and you know, what to do exactly. I don't think that's the problem. The real problem is that if you do that, you make less money. That's the real problem.”
Kantrowitz: Social Networks Are Dead and Have Become Pure Entertainment
“There's no such thing as social networks anymore in this world that you're hoping for, where there's no reverse chronological order, or there's no algorithmic feed.
it, it's long past the point in time where that was even a possibility, and I think that
You k…”
Kantrowitz: Meta Agrees to $18B Settlement Over Youth Addiction Claims
“Meta agrees to pay eighteen billion to settle U.S. Lawsuits over children's social media addiction, and it's going to pay it over the next decade, and strictly limit how teenagers use Facebook and Instagram under an agreement with nearly all U.S. States to res…”