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Google Pushes OpenAI, Bezos Returns, AI’s No. 1 Hit
- ▶ 3:21 Ranjan Roy No, no, it's a big deal, because when you think about Anthropic, you think about Microsoft, you think about Meta, OpenAI from just a pure kind of, like, model sexiness, that's my benchmark of choice, I don't know how it's calculated, but…
- ▶ 22:14 Ranjan Roy I mean, again, working in the enterprise world, like, just to be able to pull this off is, is massively incredible, and you look at it, like, and you can talk about meta, but you can see where it does not work in a way, and you can imagine…
- ▶ 24:06 Alex Kantrowitz All right, you mentioned Meta, a couple things on Meta, um, then we'll get back to our Google story. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:24 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, looks like Facebook is gonna fund it.
How Generative AI Could Change Shopping Forever — With Rubail Birwadker
- ▶ 4:33 Alex Kantrowitz Um, I, I wonder though, in terms of commerce, it's very interesting because, um, these bots, you know, I, when I was reporting, for instance, on this, uh, this was 10 years ago, Facebook messenger had this platform where they wanted, I'm…
Can We Trust Silicon Valley With Superintelligence? — With Nick Clegg
- ▶ 0:20 Alex Kantrowitz The former president of global affairs at Meta and deputy prime minister for the UK joins us for a conversation about how to save the internet. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 0:58 Alex Kantrowitz Let's start with, so you spent a number of years advising Mark Zuckerberg through the tricky, um, minefields of running Facebook and being this sort of global lightning rod because of the power and influence that Facebook had. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:39 Alex Kantrowitz So we'll get back to some more stuff that's coming down the line for AI, but this is a good moment to pause and think about the strategy of your former employer, Meta, um, because Meta, Mark Zuckerberg, they've put billions and billions of… 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 17:18 Sir Nick Clegg Um, I clearly think it is in the DNA of Meta to believe that it is a company, it demonstrably does, has a kind of, um, handle on the social aspects on the, the sort of, the, the, the, the way in which people develop intense relationships… 8 times in the scene
- ▶ 20:33 Sir Nick Clegg So, um, you know, when I arrived at Facebook as it was then, the thing that I always found very interesting was actually the fact that it was technology which humans could use to communicate with each other, um, share content which humans…
- ▶ 22:17 Alex Kantrowitz So they're playing there.
- ▶ 27:30 Alex Kantrowitz She ran the Facebook app for a while.
- ▶ 28:50 Sir Nick Clegg And if you, if you basically take that as your, one of your list of requirements, um, or expectations, then of course people from companies like Meta, you know, feature high up on the, high up on the, on the list. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 39:08 Sir Nick Clegg But I realize, look, there are people in Meta and elsewhere, colleagues of mine who I like and admire enormously.
- ▶ 47:17 Sir Nick Clegg There were much better placed folk, uh, in, uh, in my Meta team who, uh, who had much better relationships. 3 times in the scene
AI Bubble Special Report: Debt, Depreciation, and Losses — With Gil Luria
- ▶ 15:50 Gil Luria It's because they know they're competing with Meta, and with Google, and with Elon, people that have a lot more resources than they do.
- ▶ 27:08 Gil Luria And again, even if you took out the bad players that are lending, that are borrowing money to build data centers, you still have Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Elon using cash flow to build data centers.
- ▶ 39:06 Alex Kantrowitz OpenAI's loss in the quarter equates to 65% of the rise in the underlying earnings of Microsoft, Nvidia, Alphabet, Amazon, and Meta together, and that ignores Anthropic, in which Amazon recorded a profit of 9.5 billion from its holding in… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 45:46 Alex Kantrowitz And that's why the market freaked out when Meta, uh, I guess, uh, was taking on this debt and increasing its capex because it's harder to see that direct line of it's going to be okay if you're a company like Meta versus a company like… 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 51:04 Gil Luria It's meta, it's Google, it's Microsoft, it's Amazon. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 58:12 Alex Kantrowitz If you're on Spotify or YouTube, Nick Clegg, the former president of global affairs at Meta, former deputy prime minister of the United Kingdom is coming on on Wednesday to talk about whether we could trust Silicon Valley with super…
Could LLMs Be The Route To Superintelligence? — With Mustafa Suleyman
- ▶ 27:18 Alex Kantrowitz Like we saw that with Meta and Lama.
- ▶ 29:22 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, your episode is gonna air back to back with an episode, uh, that will run with Nick Clegg, uh, the former president of global affairs at Meta. 3 times in the scene
OpenAI Bailout?, Elon’s $1 Trillion Pay Deal, Amazon Sues Perplexity
- ▶ 20:17 Alex Kantrowitz It is interesting because their product really is beloved, uh, but they are starting to, again, speaking of our discussion last week, run into some, like, Facebook territory on the comm side. 2 times in the scene
OpenAI’s IPO Plan, Deconstructing The AI Bet, Apple’s iPhone 17 Revival
- ▶ 19:48 M.G. Siegler That stake, uh, you know, not to say that they would do it in one fell swoop, but remember Microsoft owned a pretty good chunk of Facebook when it went public, um, because of a deal that they had done, the Steve Ballmer deal, one of his,… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 26:09 M.G. Siegler And even meta right now, like, right. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 32:05 M.G. Siegler It's, it's, it's meta, as we've talked about, it's Google, it's Microsoft, it's all these Neo clouds, it's Oracle.
- ▶ 38:57 Alex Kantrowitz And so then what happens, like OpenAI hits AGI, let's say Anthropic gets there the next day, and Meta gets there a couple weeks later, and Amazon gets there a couple weeks later.
- ▶ 44:03 Alex Kantrowitz They've lost many more people to Meta since last time we talked, which is crazy because you'd think that they would hit a limit of people that would go to Meta, but they haven't. 3 times in the scene
OpenAI and Microsoft’s Grand Bargain, Sam Altman’s Next Three Years, A New Humanoid Robot
- ▶ 31:23 Alex Kantrowitz I want to take a break, and then on the other side of this break, sort of allow myself to unfortunately make the counterargument, because we've been hinting at ads this entire time, but there is a conversation that OpenAI is going through… 12 times in the scene
- ▶ 31:41 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, they have putting in Facebook processes and they're chasing a Facebook business model. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 43:44 Alex Kantrowitz And now on the flip side, you wonder, well, what's happening at Meta? 10 times in the scene
Medium CEO Tony Stubblebine: Here's How Writing Evolves In The AI Era
- ▶ 41:46 Alex Kantrowitz Meta's, uh, tool is starting to increase in usage.
OpenAI’s Risky Browser Bet, Amazon’s Mass Automation Plan, Clippy’s Back
- ▶ 0:09 Alex Kantrowitz Meta does major AI layoffs and Clippy's back. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:23 Alex Kantrowitz ChatGPT, eight hundred million users, although maybe seven hundred fifty million now, because Meta, I don't know if you saw this, they removed one 800 ChatGPT from WhatsApp for whatever reason.
- ▶ 50:44 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, one more break when we come back and talk about the cuts at Meta Super Intelligence Labs. 10 times in the scene
Erotic ChatGPT, Zuck’s Apple Assault, AI’s Sameness Problem
- ▶ 9:41 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, just, if you think about the level of hallucination, like I'm going to read out a list of Apple researchers, uh, that have left meta. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 27:29 unnamed speaker Like, people don't look at ChatGPT as a highly problematic thing, and if it's going back to the point around regulators, parents, just overall branding, if it starts to be the kind of skeezy place to hang out, it becomes Facebook blue…
Is the AI Boom About to Break Security? — With Grady Summers, CEO of Netwrix
- ▶ 20:10 Grady Summers Like, did you see that thing on Facebook?
Will AI Kill Software? — With Salesforce Co-Founder Parker Harris
- ▶ 13:34 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, I've heard the same demo from OpenAI, from Apple, from Amazon, from Google, and from Facebook.
AGI or Bust, OpenAI’s $1 Trillion Gamble, Apple’s Next CEO?
- ▶ 3:39 Alex Kantrowitz Labs are taking all their profits and capital and plowing them right back into new data centers, and a new breed of companies, namely Oracle, Meta, and CoreWeave, are going all in, no holds barred. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 15:13 Alex Kantrowitz If you, if you're being thrown millions of dollars to join, let's say Meta to work on LLMs, uh, and you would have otherwise been pursuing a non LLM solution that, you know, sort of out of the box and maybe at a,
- ▶ 53:39 Alex Kantrowitz Right, and Bruin, of course, comes from Meta, and if you ever had to deal with Meta copyright infringement, the process, it sucks, and it's almost an insult to copyright holders to have to go through something like that. 3 times in the scene
Anthropic Chief Product Officer: Why AI Model Development Is Accelerating
- ▶ 30:39 Alex Kantrowitz I mean, when we look around the AI industry, we see so many, uh, folks who've come from places like Facebook and Twitter, uh, now running large parts of these AI companies, of course, yourself, 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 33:12 Alex Kantrowitz I mean, I think the thing that really drove Facebook decisions was engagement, and of course growth, and maybe the two go hand in hand.
- ▶ 36:02 Mike Krieger Uh, you know, I think that experimentation, once you get a service as widespread as Instagram or as widespread as Facebook or WhatsApp, it's hard to introduce a new behavior there.
OpenAI and AMD's Megadeal, Sam Altman and Jony Ive’s Bumpy Start. Meta vs. Apple
- ▶ 0:40 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, at this point, we also have Sam Altman and Johnny Ive running into some bumps as they begin to build their AI device and meta and apple, and maybe Amazon and Google all are basically on a collision course to build the same thing.
- ▶ 19:58 Alex Kantrowitz By the way, also open AI also, uh, sorry, meta, 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 28:58 M.G. Siegler Um, but I think, you know, we all sort of zeroed in on it being not necessarily a wearable, even though that was, you know, what meta and, and, you know,
- ▶ 36:51 Alex Kantrowitz Like we just named a bunch of companies, OpenAI, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, uh, they're all, it seems like they're all building the same thing. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 44:40 Alex Kantrowitz Um, but before that, you know, it's just very interesting to see Meta, uh, pushing Apple in these directions, and so I'd be curious to hear your perspective on, like, where the, you know, it's really a blood feud in my perspective. 13 times in the scene
- ▶ 52:30 M.G. Siegler You know, as you're talking about Meta sort of showed them what the market is like, at least for the foreseeable future in terms of a wearable on your face. 2 times in the scene
Sora 2 & AI’s Slop Era, Death Of The Creator Economy?, Apple’s SmartGlasses Roadmap
- ▶ 1:36 Alex Kantrowitz OpenAI is squaring up to TikTok, Google's YouTube, and meta platforms with the new social media apps for its AI video generator that allows users to create high-definition video clips 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:41 Alex Kantrowitz And Ron John Roy, who's usually here on Fridays, told the story that he tells on the show so often about how his Facebook feed had become just a feed of, uh, AI slop and people commenting on it. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 7:14 Alex Kantrowitz And if you are the engagement app, which is, or the engagement company, which meta is, you can't really let another company run away with it. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 17:12 Max Zeff And, you know, I don't think Meta exactly set out to build, uh, you know, addictive
- ▶ 17:33 Alex Kantrowitz Right, and I think it's, we should note, head of product at Anthropic, Instagram founder, head of product at OpenAI, former head of product at Instagram, person who's running what all consumer applications at OpenAI is also someone who's…
- ▶ 28:43 Alex Kantrowitz Maybe, who knows, the Meta can tune feeds in ways, or OpenAI will tune feeds in ways that will make people more susceptible to 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 30:37 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, in the second half, we're going to get into how Meta is going to use our, uh, so our, our chat data or our engagement with its LLMs, uh, for advertising. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 31:34 Alex Kantrowitz Max, you had a story this week talking about how Meta is going to use our AI chat data to target ads. 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 32:34 Max Zeff Basically have it, uh, affect the kind of ads that you see on Instagram and Facebook.
- ▶ 36:20 Alex Kantrowitz I'm curious what the vibe is inside of Meta right now, given 15 times in the scene
OpenAI’s & NVIDIA's $100 Billion Marriage, Meta’s Sloppy Vibes, TikTok Deal Arrives?
- ▶ 0:10 Alex Kantrowitz Meta has a new feed of AI slop, and the TikTok deal is here, seemingly.
- ▶ 0:55 Alex Kantrowitz We'll also talk about this new ChatGPT feature called Pulse, this new feed that Meta has of AI-generated images and video called Vibes, and the fact that we are very close to a TikTok deal that will enable the app to continue to operate in…
- ▶ 25:15 Alex Kantrowitz Of Amazon, Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Meta, and Nvidia, and more than five times the size of the entire global subscription software market.
- ▶ 33:58 Ranjan Roy It's funny, I was just at a dinner, and like, of course, this conversation came up, and someone at the table was a VC, and like, literally there, there was, so, and someone asked them, who's not anywhere in the financial world, and the…
- ▶ 42:43 Alex Kantrowitz And to me, that is the direction that they are going to try to head in the business front, especially because Fiji Simo is running these products and she came from Facebook.
- ▶ 45:31 Alex Kantrowitz Meta launches Vibes, a short form video feed of AI Slop. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 46:01 Ranjan Roy Well, we talked about this a while ago, but for newer listeners, I deleted my Facebook in 2017 and then kind of rejoined 2022, but haven't ever really used it.
Revealed: OpenAI Tells Us ChatGPT's Major Use Cases
- ▶ 0:05 Alex Kantrowitz Meta's new AI glasses are here. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 22:27 Ranjan Roy , I feel like, in the early digital days where there's all this discussion around the time spent posting on Facebook, or posting on Twitter, or all these kind of things actually created very little economic value, and it was more, and it…
- ▶ 39:15 Alex Kantrowitz So, briefly, Meta has the 799 dollar glasses. 10 times in the scene
Do We Care About The iPhone Air?, Nepal's Discord Revolution, San Francisco’s 996 Culture
- ▶ 0:03 Alex Kantrowitz Meta's new AI smart glasses with a display are en route next week. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 17:43 Alex Kantrowitz And now we have Meta coming up next week, preparing to deliver the latest iteration of its answer, which is a different device. 8 times in the scene
- ▶ 22:31 Ranjan Roy It was that there was already, it was around Nepo babies, and it was the idea that, like, those in power were, their children were posting photos of them in, like, expensive cars, so people started, you know, like, using the hashtags…
Booz Allen CTO: AI in Government, Autonomous Driving, Quantum's Promise
- ▶ 59:01 Alex Kantrowitz So at Mehta's headquarters, I'm sure you know this, they kept the old sun sign sort of as a, um, indication to themselves that you could be at the top of the world one day in tech and things move so fast that next thing, you know, somebody…
Google’s Best Week Ever, AI’s Rising Costs, Putin and Xi’s Immortality Quest
- ▶ 26:10 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, they just announced this ten billion dollar, um, deal with Meta for AI infrastructure.
Brain Computer Interface Frontier: Depression, Coma, AI Merge
- ▶ 1:07:49 Michael Mager Information much more quickly and also much more intuitively with context, um, which is part of the reason that companies like Meta and Google are developing wearables.
Can We Save The Web From AI? — With Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince
- ▶ 46:13 Matthew Prince A lot of that has moved to individual platforms, so more of that on a YouTube, more of that on a Facebook, more of that on a TikTok, um, that, that is there, and I think part of that is because those tools have provided content creators…
Anthropic’s Potential, AI Video Gets Crazy, Market Bubble Approaching?
- ▶ 2:22 Alex Kantrowitz Like the one thing that I kept coming back to, uh, when writing the story about Dario and the company is just that you have this competition coming from all sides, competition, obviously from open AI, but also from meta, um, places like… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:19 Ranjan Roy I mean, we, we, we've seen in tech, like social media for a long time, Facebook dominated, then you start to see some level of competition, but, but the network effects within something like social media, I think are very different than… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 48:29 Ranjan Roy Like, uh, I mean, like, and as we speak, Facebook is, Meta is up to 11% pre-market. 3 times in the scene
Mark Zuckerberg’s Personal Superintelligence, Layoffs & Payoffs, Writing With AI — With M.G. Siegler
- ▶ 1:11 Alex Kantrowitz He says, over the last few months, we have begun to see glimpses of our AI systems improving themselves. 8 times in the scene
- ▶ 3:23 M.G. Siegler You know, realize that his one angle that he can definitely play up is obviously the historical strength of, of Facebook of meta dating back to the Facebook days and all of the other sort of services and apps that they both built and… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:34 Alex Kantrowitz And he says Meta's vision is to bring super intelligence to everyone. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 12:01 Alex Kantrowitz He definitely addresses how this could benefit the Facebook or the meta business model in a pretty direct way. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:29 Alex Kantrowitz Obviously Facebook started on the premise of connecting with your friends on the internet. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:39 Alex Kantrowitz Um, and I'm not even talking about meta scandals. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:25 M.G. Siegler Um, uh, you know, and we, you know, we've talked about that, but I think that there's a little bit of the Lucy pulling the football thing that Meta has long had both with the public in terms of, yeah, pivot to video and all the news… 17 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:31 Alex Kantrowitz Okay, so this entire conversation we've been talking about Meta's super intelligence effort. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 28:08 Alex Kantrowitz If there were different techniques to build AGI and super intelligence, I would say, okay, sure, you know, Facebook's building super intelligence over here, and OpenAI is stuck building, you know, you know, stale old AGI over there, but…
- ▶ 33:18 Alex Kantrowitz Meta owns a stakes in scale AI and safe super intelligence now. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 38:44 M.G. Siegler It might end up being that these companies in the ultimate success state, if they're able to reach it, end up creating sort of new models and not necessarily new that we've never heard of before, but much like Google and even, you know,… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 45:04 M.G. Siegler Like, okay, if you are meta and you're spending, uh, whatever it is, seventy-five billion dollars on capex right now per year, um, on this, on infrastructure build out for AI,
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei: AI's Potential, OpenAI Rivalry, GenAI Business, Doomerism
- ▶ 16:27 Alex Kantrowitz You know, there's one thing that's been hanging over this conversation, uh, which is that maybe Anthropic is the company with the right idea, uh, but the wrong resources, because you look at what's happening with, uh, XAI and, um, and… 6 times in the scene
Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
- ▶ 7:51 Ed Zitron Like, they bought the Rails for this a long time ago, and to your point, no one else has been able to copy it, despite there being multiple other companies that could, other than Meta, who has created a competing advertising product.
- ▶ 18:22 Alex Kantrowitz I mean, I think one example, I'm curious what you think about this, is when Apple cut off Facebook's ability to measure whether people were buying after seeing their ads, and then Facebook got... 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:59 Ed Zitron That's because Meta has effectively a monopoly on, on social networks, which are a different advertising platform.
- ▶ 43:52 Ed Zitron Hey, did you read the story about Meta? 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 1:03:36 Alex Kantrowitz And I think maybe that's why you see the scale acquisition from Meta.