OpenAI

also referred to as: open ai

includes OpenAI O1, OpenAI Codex, OpenAI API, OpenAI Realtime API, OpenAI O3, OpenAI Deep Research, OpenAI o Series, OpenAI Realtime Models, OpenAI O1 Preview

200 statements across 40 episodes · 119 bullish · 29 bearish · 17 people on the record · first statement Jan 25, 2024 by Brad Gerstner · said 653 times in 42 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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brought up most by Brad Gerstner (337), Bill Gurley (142), Satya Nadella (47), Dylan Patel (28), Apoorv Agrawal (26), Sherwin Wu (19), Nick Turley (12), Gavin Baker (7)

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Jan 25, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Gerstner: Altimeter Has Not Invested in Foundation Model Companies
“So for us, we haven't invested in any of these.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 16:21 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Jan 25, 2024
What-if
Gurley: OpenAI would not exist if Google had patented the transformer
“So open AI doesn't exist today if that's patented and controlled. There's, it just doesn't”
Bill Gurley Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 1:00:28 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Jan 25, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gurley: OpenAI used to be open-source and is now attacking it
“OpenAI that clearly is a closed model, and we have, we... And used to be open source. Right. And is now attacking open source.”
Bill Gurley Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 22:43 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Jan 25, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gurley: Mega-cap cloud credit financing will cause market distortions
“What I fear is that this is happening at such a large level and maybe we haven't seen the end of it, right? I think there's reason you can see more that it's going to create a market distortion.”
Bill Gurley Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 6:58 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Feb 8, 2024 neutral
Insight
Levie: AI adoption is bottlenecked by compute costs, not architecture
“So like we're increasingly not limited by the architecture of the technology. And now we're just limited by like, can Jensen make these things cheaper? Can the, you know, can the engineers at open AI have more efficient model algorithms?”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:09:53 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Feb 8, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: Cloud-Credit AI Funding Music Will Stop, OpenAI Aside
“I think unfortunately there's like an inevitable, there's going to be an inevitable, you know, that the music will stop at some point on, on, on this particular dynamic. Open AI, you know, aside, just because they actually do have the traction, they probably d…”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 57:32 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Feb 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI has caused almost no share shift from AWS to Azure
“We've seen almost no share shift from AWS to Azure as a result of OpenAI.”
Brad Gerstner Feb 22, 2024 ▶ 54:47 BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03 · Bg2 Pod
Feb 22, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Gurley: Microsoft is a clear net winner from generative AI
“People looked at the Microsoft portfolio of assets, especially where they make money around the office suite, right? And said, and the developer community where they also, you know, control a lot of the IDEs that are used to program. And they said, oh, this is…”
Bill Gurley Feb 22, 2024 ▶ 14:35 BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03 · Bg2 Pod
Feb 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gurley: Ecosystem partners distrust Google and prefer OpenAI and Perplexity
“I don't think Google has treated its partners well in the search ecosystem. And so there's a lot of angst there and a lot of mistrust. And so if, OpenAI or perplexity came along and said, would you integrate and pass tokens? They might say yes. I think they're…”
Bill Gurley Feb 22, 2024 ▶ 43:15 BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03 · Bg2 Pod
Mar 7, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Gerstner: OpenAI Should Rename to ChatGPT and Focus on Google
“If I was Sam Altman running OpenAI, I think I might rename the company ChatGPT and just focused on the multi-trillion dollar opportunity to replace Google, right? Because I think winning at both, beating Google at consumer and beating Microsoft at enterprise y…”
Brad Gerstner Mar 7, 2024 ▶ 35:10 Ep4. Tesla FSD 12, Imitation AI Models, Open vs Closed AI Models, Delaware vs Elon, & Market Update · Bg2 Pod
Mar 21, 2024 positive
Opinion
Gurley: Voice AI may be more interesting than OpenAI's Sora video generator
“And by the way, on that topic, I think voice AI may be more interesting than, say, Sora or the video stuff that OpenAI released. I think more and more people are realizing, because LLMs are language models, that people would love to just talk to them.”
Bill Gurley Mar 21, 2024 ▶ 1:03:10 Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod · Bg2 Pod
Apr 4, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gurley: Sam Altman's Energy Compute Framing Is Jobsian-Level Promotion
“I want to, there's two things Sam did this in this recent Interview that I think put him in the promotion hall of fame. And one of them was he juxtapositioned AI versus the smartphone market and then on the smartphone market is being small. He said, well, that…”
Bill Gurley Apr 4, 2024 ▶ 21:39 Ep6. AI Demand / Supply - Models, Agents, the $2T Compute Build Out, Need for More Nuclear & More · Bg2 Pod
Apr 29, 2024 bullish
Prediction Held up
Gerstner: GPT-5 will introduce early memory and agentic actions
“Like I think in GPT-V, it's not going to be the final state, but I think you're going to see the beginnings of memory and the beginnings of actions. Right. And this is, you know, months away and you and I have a bet on this.”
Brad Gerstner Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 43:06 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Apr 29, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Madra: Llama 3 70B is over 10x cheaper than GPT-4
“Price performance, right? You get probably on, from a GPT-IV, you're more than 10 times cheaper. Right. And you're. Yeah. Yeah. 10 times cheaper. And well, let me just tell you, GPT-IV is 10 dollars per million tokens input and 30 dollars per million token out…”
Sundeep Madra Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 5:16 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Apr 29, 2024 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Madra: Developers replace OpenAI with Llama 3 with no performance loss
“And people are doing a direct replacement with open AI across the board. They come to us. So they come to, you know, all the different providers and they replace out open AI. And they don't really see any performance impact or any reasoning impact”
Sundeep Madra Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 4:56 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Apr 29, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gurley: Free Meta AI eliminates consumer willingness to pay $20 for ChatGPT
“As long as Meta's free, I don't think anyone pays the 20 dollars. And I will say that is as things sit today. If some crazy feature comes along, you know, we've talked about personal memory, maybe, maybe that comes back, but for now, It feels dead.”
Bill Gurley Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 7:04 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Apr 29, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Closed AI model startups besides OpenAI will struggle to raise funding
“I think it's going to be very difficult for new entrants to be venture backed because to, you know, open AI will continue to get funding because they have this incredible team. They have a hundred million people using the product and paying them for the produc…”
Brad Gerstner Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 18:12 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Apr 29, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Over 50% of OpenAI's revenue comes from consumers
“Over 50% of the revenue is, I think, from consumer.”
Brad Gerstner Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 7:00 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 positive
Opinion
Gurley: OpenAI's voice demo appears way better than Apple's Siri
“It feels like from the demo, this is way better than Siri.”
Bill Gurley May 16, 2024 ▶ 9:57 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: Duolingo fell 4-5% following OpenAI's GPT-4o demo
“I think the day that the demo showed, Duolingo stock was down, you know, four or five percent”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 29:41 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gerstner: Apple cannot outsource building its core AI assistant
“I think a decision to sell the generative AI search button you know, to open AI and the way that they're doing with Google search is a far cry from outsourcing, right? Their mission to build their own version of her, which I don't think that Apple can ever out…”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 14:51 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: GPT-4o Dramatically Lowers Inference Pricing Over Benchmark Gains
“And we plotted chat GPT for Omni on this chart, and you can see how it barely improved in terms of human level, the human eval score, but it dramatically improved in terms of pricing, you know, in terms of inference pricing.”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 10:58 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Gerstner: Google's Astra Demo Felt Pre-Recorded and Clunky vs. GPT-4o
“Google yesterday, you know, at their IO event showed off Astra, their version of Her, albeit a little Recorded and maybe a little bit more clunky.”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 3:21 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Gerstner: Frontier AI Labs Must Win Consumers to Justify Billions Invested
“So if you're going to be Anthropic or OpenAI or Mistral or anybody else, it's hard to see how you build a business, you know, with payback on the tens of billions that you're going to be required to invest unless you're in the consumer game.”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 23:31 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 16, 2024 bearish
Insight
Gerstner: Serving AI models is far lower margin than traditional software
“In fact, I was talking to a large data company this week who's in the business of serving models, and they were lamenting the fact that the pricing umbrella was set by open AI and there is no price, right? So that it's a much lower margin business than the tra…”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 23:05 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 10, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Gurley: OpenAI and AI leaders are spouting vague, unsubstantiated hyperbole
“I think in this case, because some of the leaders and I'd say OpenA is probably the strongest Are willing to spout hyperbole. And what I mean by hyperbole is they're willing to just state really vague, broad, big ideas without much meat on them.”
Bill Gurley Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 25:59 Ep10. Pre-IPO Market, AI Hype Cycle, Is Software Dead? | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 10, 2024 bullish
Prediction Partly held up
Gerstner: Apple will partner with OpenAI, limiting features to newer iPhones
“I think they're going to have a series of announcements, you know, in terms of integrating with OpenAI. They're going to make the phone better. They're going to say, you can only get it on 15 plus or 16. They'll drive a replacement cycle into, you know, that b…”
Brad Gerstner Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 35:24 Ep10. Pre-IPO Market, AI Hype Cycle, Is Software Dead? | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gurley: Credit Card Data Implies $2.1B of OpenAI Revenue Is Consumer
“I went into one of these credit card survey things, and I looked at OpenAI, and assuming that people don't pay for the API with a credit card, so the credit card pool just represents, and I compared it to a company where I knew the revenue it would imply that …”
Bill Gurley Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 31:49 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 22, 2024 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gurley: OpenAI Consumer Subscription Cohorts Suffer ~65% Annual Churn
“At least for the cohorts that are old enough, the churn's about 65% annually, so they're only 35% retaining, which Sachs had hinted at on All In, and maybe the reason that I think Sam at one point said he didn't really see the twenty-dollar thing as his future…”
Bill Gurley Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 32:15 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Lafont: Large unicorn IPOs require $1B in revenue and breakeven path
“There's two criteria as one is, can you get to a billion of revenue? Open AI would be check, check, check the box. But the second one is, do you have a sort of a break even or a path to break even?”
Philippe Laffont Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 37:28 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 11, 2024 negative
Assertion Supported
Gurley: OpenAI Failed to Ship Voice Product Months After Promised Date
“The amazing voice demo that we saw on the last OpenAI demo day they had talked about releasing the voice product in two weeks and it's been months. Months, yeah. It's not out.”
Bill Gurley Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 38:59 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 11, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI Has Generated $3 Billion in Real Customer Spend
“To the tune of, you know, three billion dollars, OpenAI has people reaching in their pockets and paying real money, including myself, for their service.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 34:41 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 25, 2024 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: ChatGPT Traffic Jumped to 2.6B Visits and 100M DAUs Post-GPT-4o
“Since it was released, web visits have gone from 1.8 billion to 2.6 billion visits per month. DAUs have gone from sixty million to a hundred million.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 40:02 Ep13. Silicon Valley’s Political 180, META AI, COVID Postmortem | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 25, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gurley: OpenAI Reaches ~$2B, Anthropic ~$100M, and Perplexity ~$25M from Subscriptions
“Playing around with credit card data, I think OpenAI is about two billion Anthropics about a hundred million in perplexities at like twenty-five million.”
Bill Gurley Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 41:25 Ep13. Silicon Valley’s Political 180, META AI, COVID Postmortem | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 25, 2024 bearish
Assertion Contradicted
Gurley: OpenAI's 12-Month Subscription Retention Rate Is Around 35%
“On the 20 dollar thing, but at 12 months, the retention even in OpenAI is like 35%, so I doubt that anyone that is looking at that, even at two billion, Feels great about that as a durable business model”
Bill Gurley Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 41:37 Ep13. Silicon Valley’s Political 180, META AI, COVID Postmortem | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Aug 9, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Gurley: Big Tech Is Aggressively Undermining OpenAI and Anthropic Fundraising
“One of the objective functions may be just precisely to make it more difficult for OpenAI or Anthropic to raise, you know, ten billion dollars that they need to fund the next two model builds.”
Bill Gurley Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 39:57 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Aug 9, 2024 bearish
Prediction Held up
Gerstner predicts SearchGPT will not reach one billion users
“I would say that search GPT I don't think is going to be the product that gets up to a billion users, and it reminds me, it takes me all the way back to a conversation you and I had maybe in episode four Which is what is going to be the next, you know, GPT mom…”
Brad Gerstner Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 1:10:56 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 25, 2024
Disclosure
Gerstner confirms Altimeter is in talks to join OpenAI's funding round
“I can confirm that Altimeter is talking with the company, so of course there's some things I can share and things I can't share”
Brad Gerstner Sep 25, 2024 ▶ 8:39 Ep16. Nuclear Update, AI Fast & Furious, State of VC | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 13, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Huang: OpenAI recently decommissioned its Volta GPU infrastructure
“And I think Sam was just telling me that, that they had just decommissioned the Volta infrastructure that they have at OpenAI recently, and so, so I think it's, we leave behind this trail of install base.”
Jensen Huang Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 18:12 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 13, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI has 250M weekly users, double Google at IPO
“They have two hundred and fifty million, yeah, two hundred and fifty million weekly average users, which we estimate is twice the amount Google had at the time of its IPO.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 39:18 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 13, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Gerstner: OpenAI has escape velocity to fund future models, unlike competitors
“OpenAI clearly has hit that escape velocity. They can fund their own future. It's not clear to me that many of these other companies can.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 43:40 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 13, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Gerstner: Altimeter and NVIDIA invested in OpenAI's $6.5B round
“Open AI. Raised, as you know, six and a half billion dollars this week at like a hundred and fifty billion dollar valuation. We both participated.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 38:40 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 13, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Gurley: OpenAI o1 model costs 20 to 30 times more per query
“The cost of a search with the with the new preview model is probably costing them 20 x or 30 x what it does to do a normal chat GPT search.”
Bill Gurley Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 37:56 Ep18. Jensen Recap - Competitive Moat, X.AI, Smart Assistant | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 13, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI achieved escape velocity with $4B revenue and $10.5B capital
“Don't forget this company, you know, is, has over four billion in revenue scaling. Probably most people think to ten billion plus in revenue. Over the course of the next year, they just raised six and a half billion. They got a four billion dollar line of cred…”
Brad Gerstner Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 34:55 Ep18. Jensen Recap - Competitive Moat, X.AI, Smart Assistant | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2024 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Hyperscalers and OpenAI are solely focused on 1-3 gigawatt power sites
“When I talk to CoreWeave, when I talk to Azure, when I talk to OpenAI, when I talk to Amazon, Google, et cetera, not one of them Is talking about anything other than how do we find the facilities that can support a gigawatt or two gigawatts or three gigawatts …”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 51:31 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2024 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: OpenAI Reached $4.5B in Revenue Much Faster Than Google and Meta
“OpenAI got to, you know, four and a half billion dollars of revenue in a fraction of the time it took Google and Meta.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 37:35 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
Nov 21, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Gerstner: OpenAI could 2x or 3x ChatGPT users without core model improvements
“OpenAI could double, triple the number of users of ChatGPT with frankly, not making any improvements in the core model because consumers today barely scratched the surface on core model capabilities.”
Brad Gerstner Nov 21, 2024 ▶ 21:18 Ep20. AI Scaling Laws, DOGE, FSD 13, Trump Markets | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Nov 27, 2024 positive
Insight
Gurley: Anthropic Open-Sourcing MCP Matches Google's Kubernetes Strategy
“I think it is one of the most savvy competitive Weapons you can bring to the field. I'm sure they were worried that open AI would create proprietary data connectors and they want everyone to use this one very similar to what Google did with Kubernetes.”
Bill Gurley Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 29:43 BG2 Thanksgiving Roundtable: DOGE, EV Tax Credit, Tariffs, Conspiracy Theories, Invest America · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Nadella: OpenAI is this generation's defining company, creating a 'Mag 8'
“If you think about open AI, in some sense, you could say it's mag eight because I think the company of this generation has already been created. Right. Which is open AI in some sense. It's kind of like the Google or the Microsoft or the meta of this era.”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 20:29 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Nadella: Unlikely any foundation model achieves a two-year lead again
“I don't think there will be ever again maybe a two-year lead like this. Who knows? We, you know, it's all, you say that and somebody else, you know, drops some sample and suddenly blows the world away. But that said, I think it's unlikely that that type of, yo…”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 41:45 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Nadella: Memo by Amodei and Sutskever Convinced Microsoft to Bet on Scaling
“In fact, I think the first memo, weirdly enough, I read, On scaling was written by Dario when he was at OpenAI and Ilya, and that's sort of what, like I said, let's take a bet on this, right? Which is, hey, wow, if this is going to have exponential performance…”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 18:47 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nadella: Azure Kubernetes service is among OpenAI's fastest-growing workloads
“One of the fastest growing things of, in fact, open AI itself is the container service, because after all these agents need a scratch pad for doing some of those auto grading even to generate the samples, right? And so that is like where they run a code interp…”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:11:26 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft Partnered With CoreWeave to Catch Up to ChatGPT Demand
“That, that we did because we all got caught with the hit called ChatGPT and OpenAI APIs, right? Yeah, we were completely, I mean, like, yeah, it was impossible. There's no supply chain planning I could have done in you know, what is it, you know, like none of …”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:09:02 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft Will Not Run Redundant Pre-Training Duplicating OpenAI
“Well, what we won't do is do it twice, right? Because after all, we have the IP from, like, it would be silly for Microsoft today, given the partnership with OpenAI to do two unnecessary-”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:07:28 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Nadella details the four pillars governing Microsoft's OpenAI partnership
“I think of them as, hey, as an investor, what are their interests and our interests, and how do we align them? I think of them as an IP partner and because we give them systems IP, they give us, ah, model IP, right? So that's another side of it where we are, a…”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:14:05 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Nadella: OpenAI's partnership with Apple is accretive to Microsoft shareholders
“Ultimately, these things will have some overlap, but I also, in that context, the fact that they have the Apple deal is, in some sense, for the MSFT shareholder, you know, accretive, right?”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:15:01 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft tried for 10 years to secure an Apple search deal
“Like, I've been trying to get an Apple search deal for, like, 10 years. And so, when Tim finally did a deal with Sam, I was, like, the most thrilled person, which is better, it's better to have ChatGPT get that deal than anybody else, because we, you know, we …”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 24:45 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 12, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Nadella: OpenAI Briefly Used GCP Before Returning to Microsoft for Transformers
“The first time yeah, actually, Elon and Sam, they were looking for, obviously, Azure credits, and what have you, and we gave them some credits, and that time, they were more into RL, and Dota II, and what have you, and that was interesting and then we stopped …”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 16:56 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 23, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Patel: Microsoft runs GPT models on AMD hardware for inference
“Microsoft has deployed GPT-style models on On other competitors' hardware, such as AMD they've, and some of their own, but mostly AMD, and so they can wring that out with software because they can spend hundreds of engineers, dozens of engineers' hours hundred…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 16:50 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 23, 2024 neutral
Insight
Patel: Reasoning models like OpenAI o1 increase compute costs by 50x
“When I do this with O-one, right, because it's doing that thinking phase of 10,000... It spends a lot of memory on generating this KV cache and reading this KV cache constantly. Now the maximum batch size, i.e. Concurrent users I can have, is a fraction of tha…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 49:24 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 23, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Patel: GPT-4 cost hundreds of millions to train, generates billions in revenue
“Hundreds of millions of dollars to train GPT-IV. And it's generating billions of dollars of revenue.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 45:26 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 23, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Patel: Broadcom holds custom ASIC wins with Meta, OpenAI, and Apple
“Broadcom does have multiple custom ASIC wins, right? It's not just Google here. Meta's, Meta's ramping up mostly still for recommendation systems, but their custom chips are gonna get better. You know, there's other players like OpenAI who are making a chip, r…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:18:20 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Dec 23, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: Microsoft earns 50% to 70% gross margins on OpenAI models
“Microsoft's earning 50 to 70% gross margins on OpenAI models, and that's with the profit share they get to get, or the share that they give OpenAI, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 55:53 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jan 11, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Reasoning models dwarf single-shot ChatGPT in compute consumption
“You have these O series models, and now you have deep reasoning out of Google that launch this whole different vector of scaling intelligence and reasoning. But the thing about those, Bill, as you well know, is they are compute hogs. Right? The number of token…”
Brad Gerstner Jan 11, 2025 ▶ 31:21 Market Predictions, Rates & Inflation, DOGE, CES, AI Compute | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jan 11, 2025 bullish
Prediction Held up
Gerstner: Google and OpenAI will launch superior coding agents in 2025
“I think you're going to see some pretty dramatic breakthroughs this year on coding, right? So think about all the startups that we've seen in the coding space. A lot of them have used prompt injection and other techniques in order to You know, kind of get thes…”
Brad Gerstner Jan 11, 2025 ▶ 1:20:23 Market Predictions, Rates & Inflation, DOGE, CES, AI Compute | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jan 23, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Gurley: Microsoft refused to build massive AI cluster Altman wanted
“I think my own interpretation is Microsoft didn't want to build this big, you know, open AI playground or one as big as maybe Sam wanted to build. And so he went somewhere else and everybody, But everyone at the surface behaving like they're okay with that.”
Bill Gurley Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 19:31 Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jan 23, 2025 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Gerstner: OpenAI Is Already Running Workloads Out of Abilene Facility
“Larry said at the press conference, They have 10 buildings already built in Abilene. They have another 10 under construction, and we know that OpenAI is already running workloads out of Abilene, Texas, which is where this mega project's going to be built, and …”
Brad Gerstner Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 7:16 Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jan 23, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Haas: OpenAI will have operational control of the Stargate project
“And the operational control will be from OpenAI. So they'll, they'll call the shots relative to all the things relative to the operation.”
Rene Haas Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 38:54 Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Feb 5, 2025 bullish
Prediction Held up
Gerstner: OpenAI and other frontier labs will open-source models in 2025
“Sam and the industry response seems to be tipping more in the direction where we're going to go open to. And my suspicion is you will see that this year you know, out of folks like open AI”
Brad Gerstner Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 28:53 DeepSeek, Open Source, Tariffs, DOGE, Market Impact | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Feb 5, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Export controls will prevent DeepSeek from keeping pace with OpenAI
“So, said another way, this was the moment in time where their compute comparison to OpenAI was the closest it's ever going to be for a few reasons. Number one, with the export controls, they acknowledge They, they're going to have a very hard time keeping up w…”
Brad Gerstner Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 12:04 DeepSeek, Open Source, Tariffs, DOGE, Market Impact | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Feb 5, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gurley: DeepSeek is pricing API inference at one-twentieth of OpenAI
“If you look at the models that are apples to apples on the API right now, that, that DeepSeq's pricing about one-twentieth of OpenAI.”
Bill Gurley Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 10:07 DeepSeek, Open Source, Tariffs, DOGE, Market Impact | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Feb 5, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: DeepSeek's training run was up to 50% more efficient than o1
“Now, of course, they talked about the six million dollar final training run, and this, it's important to understand, this is also correct. Right? And as I said on CNBC, this compares to about 10 or fifteen million for O-one out of OpenAI. So apples to apples, …”
Brad Gerstner Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 9:26 DeepSeek, Open Source, Tariffs, DOGE, Market Impact | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Feb 5, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: DeepSeek and OpenAI Deep Research will unleash massive inference demand
“I think we're going to need way more compute than we have. I think deep seek unleashes the amount of inference we're going to need. I think deep research out of open AI unleashes that.”
Brad Gerstner Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 1:09:19 DeepSeek, Open Source, Tariffs, DOGE, Market Impact | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 2, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Winning consumer AI platform will capture 70% to 80% market share
“So I don't think it's going to be win or take as much I don't think we're going to see a 99% monopoly here, but I do expect that, you know, we're going to see 70 or 80% share go to the winner.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 9:17 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Gerstner: Frontier AI race is closed to everyone except Musk and Altman
“And so if you said, is this still an open sport? I'd say no way, right? I don't know anybody else other than the Elon and Sam at this point.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 45:03 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 2, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: OpenAI is accelerating and widening its consumer AI lead
“The odds on favorite there has to be open AI. I think they continue to widen their gap, by the way, Bill, I think they're accelerating at scale, but that's where the race is.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 21:04 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 2, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Gurley: Leaked OpenAI forecasts show $20B annual losses in 2025 and 2026
“There was someone published the internal forecast of OpenAI, which included, I think, in 25 and 26, losing twenty billion each year.”
Bill Gurley Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 31:00 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Gerstner: Letting ChatGPT launch first was Google's mortal sin
“The only thing that could attack Google was never anything head on. It had to be an orthogonal attack from something that was 10 X better, a hundred X better because it gave us answers instead of blue links, right? That's why it was such a mortal sin for them …”
Brad Gerstner Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 16:45 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 21, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: OpenAI's Upcoming AI Product Releases Will Be Profound
“I think the stuff that we're going to see over the course of the next eight to 10 weeks out of open AI, as they get these releases teed up, I think it's going to be pretty profound and, You know, continue to add you know, to add pressure to that lead.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 1:09:00 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Mar 21, 2025 negative
Opinion
Gurley: OpenAI's Anti-DeepSeek Paper Signals Uncompetitive Rent-Seeking Behavior
“I think your friends at open AI added to that last week by putting out an anti deep seek paper that I thought was quite sad. Like if a company like GM or Ford were to put out a paper like that about BYD, we would look at them and go, oh, you just want the gove…”
Bill Gurley Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 59:05 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Mar 21, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: OpenAI Has Shelved Multiple Products Due to Compute Shortages
“I think they have four or five products literally sitting on the shelf because they don't have the compute to deliver it to customers.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 1:07:02 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Apr 4, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: ChatGPT commands an 80% to 90% consumer AI market share
“Clearly chat GPT is a major thrust, a major focus of the business. It's the market leading consumer application probably has 80 to 90% market share.”
Brad Gerstner Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 33:02 Liberation Day, Tariffs, US v China Open Source, OpenAI, $CRWV, TikTok | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Apr 4, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Gerstner: Altimeter backed OpenAI at $260B pre-money valuation
“Altimeter participated along with several others who were reported, and the valuation was like 260 pre which would make it, if all the money were to come in, a 300 post valuation”
Brad Gerstner Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 35:21 Liberation Day, Tariffs, US v China Open Source, OpenAI, $CRWV, TikTok | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Apr 4, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gurley: AI agents will disrupt Google's high-fee ad model to OpenAI's benefit
“I personally don't think there's any way when that world you're talking about, that agent world evolves, that that partner in a hotel is gonna pay a fee anywhere close To the fee that's paid to Google by someone that's marketing a service that I always say usi…”
Bill Gurley Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 47:20 Liberation Day, Tariffs, US v China Open Source, OpenAI, $CRWV, TikTok | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
May 22, 2025 bullish
Prediction Held up
Gerstner Predicts OpenAI Will Release an Open-Source Model by Summer 2025
“I do think you're going to see the open AI open source model. I mean, Sam's talked about it many times. I think you're going to see that in the next 30 days or so, certainly by the end of summer, but I would guess sooner rather than later.”
Brad Gerstner May 22, 2025 ▶ 1:08:31 AI, Middle East, China, Tariffs, Recon Bill, Invest America | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
May 22, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Abu Dhabi Announced 5GW AI Campus with Nvidia, OpenAI, Oracle
“In Abu Dhabi, they announced a five gigawatt USAI, you know, it's a UAE USAI campus. It's an incredible architectural campus. It's in collaboration with NVIDIA and OpenAI and Oracle. And think of it as almost like a global Stargate. So to put that perspective,…”
Brad Gerstner May 22, 2025 ▶ 4:24 AI, Middle East, China, Tariffs, Recon Bill, Invest America | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: OpenAI Hit 1 Billion Daily Searches 8 Years Faster Than Google
“Open AI reached you know, four hundred billion annual searches, eight years faster than Google. Right? So they're doing over a billion searches a day now.”
Brad Gerstner Jun 6, 2025 ▶ 8:45 China, AI Immigration, Rare Earths & Chips, Tariffs, Markets | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 20, 2025 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Philippe Laffont: ChatGPT subscribers reduce Google page views by 8% to 11%
“Absent chat GDP chat GPT, maybe Google page use for particular user growing four percent per year. So we are consuming more Google. Then we get a subscription to chat GDP, which we Chad, Jesus Christ, I confused GDP and GPT. We get a subscription and now we're…”
Philippe Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 19:10 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Jun 20, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Laffont: Mag 7 was flat year-over-year while top AI companies gained value
“So it was interesting seeing that we think that on average, the max seven of us was basically flat year over year and yet tremendous value accretion to the top AI companies, right? Whether it's open AI or Anthropic or all kind of the following companies.”
Thomas Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 6:52 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
The winning AI company will reach a $5T to $10T valuation
“At a hundred billion in revenue, it seems to me that this company could be on a path to being the most valuable company in the world, right? Five to 10 trillion dollar business in the fullness of time, which frankly would not surprise me for the winner in the …”
Brad Gerstner Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 18:36 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
Insight
The AI model you use today is the worst you will ever use
“The model that you use today is the worst AI model that you'll ever use for the rest of your life”
Kevin Weil Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 9:02 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
OpenAI is discussing launching an open-source model shortly, says Brad Gerstner
“OpenAI is talking about launching an open source model here shortly.”
Brad Gerstner Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 13:14 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
OpenAI measures growth primarily by weekly active users, says Kevin Weil
“Well, I mean, we look at weekly active users. That's sort of the metric that we goal ourselves by from a growth perspective.”
Kevin Weil Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 2:14 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
OpenAI will enter and compete in new product categories, says Kevin Weil
“And that's an opportunity for us in places where we think we can play a role. We, where we think we have a perspective. We'll go compete.”
Kevin Weil Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 17:03 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
OpenAI will transition to measuring daily active users, predicts Kevin Weil
“And over time, I think it's going to be more natural for us to measure daily active users because really if we're doing our job and you're using ChatGPT on a daily basis and hopefully multiple times per day, Because it can help you multiple times per day with …”
Kevin Weil Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 2:39 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025
Insight
Frontier AI capabilities cannot be managed top-down, argues Kevin Weil
“In an AI world, you need to do that because the IMLs are so new. We don't, you don't top down know all of the capabilities. You see them kind of coming through the mist and we're better at finding all of the opportunities when we have a lot of smart people Thi…”
Kevin Weil Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 19:40 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
OpenAI is growing faster than Instagram did, says Kevin Weil
“I mean, for one, I, we have grown faster than anything I've ever seen. And I thought I had seen fast growth when I was at Instagram, for example.”
Kevin Weil Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 1:32 Coatue Pt2. Open AI’s Kevin Weil Dives into All Things ChatGPT | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 10, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Gerstner: Frontier AI model companies need tens of billions in annual revenue to survive
“Because if you're not bringing in 10, 20, 30, forty billion dollars of annual revenue, I don't think you can stay in this game.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 45:13 Michael Dell – Invest America Act Becomes Law, AI Talent Wars, Compute Demand, Market Update | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Jul 10, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Gurley: OpenAI and Anthropic paid $10M annually before Meta's talent spree
“OpenAI, Anthropic, they were all paying people tons of money before Meta did this. They were paying them ten million a year, you know, maybe smaller than what you were talking about, but they were doing it.”
Bill Gurley Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 38:22 Michael Dell – Invest America Act Becomes Law, AI Talent Wars, Compute Demand, Market Update | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 bearish
Prediction Held up
Gurley: OpenAI will lose $7B this year, a burn rate Google avoids
“OpenAI is going to lose seven billion this year, and Google won't.”
Bill Gurley Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 31:01 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Madra: Alibaba's 30-billion parameter Qwen model matches GPT-4o performance
“There was a release today of a Quen You know, thirty billion parameter model, which is performing as good as GPT-IV-O.”
Sunny Madra Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 7:26 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 bullish
Insight
Gerstner: OpenAI should subsidize developer models using consumer profits
“Amazon had this monopoly retail business they could use to subsidize AWS, gain share for a decade, and then begin to take price. That would be a rational strategy for OpenAI to follow. So you take the profitable consumer business, you use it to subsidize, you …”
Brad Gerstner Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 39:20 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Gerstner: ChatGPT will likely cross 1 billion weekly active users in 2025
“I think ChatGPT will cross a billion weeklies, like maybe this year you know, probably this year, I would guess.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 45:25 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Gurley: OpenAI's moat will be user lock-in, not frontier AI capabilities
“I would continue to believe that OpenAI's most likely chance to long-term success comes from switching cost and lock-in more than it will come from staying on the edge of the model race.”
Bill Gurley Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 43:01 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Madra: Enterprise usage will shift back to US models if OpenAI open-sources
“With OpenAI's release and, you know, Meta charges back, or even if some of these startups emerge that, you know, we can point at, I think we'll see a huge shift back towards those models versus, versus the Chinese ones.”
Sunny Madra Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 21:47 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Jul 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Madra: US open-source AI will hit the global top three by 2026
“I think if we look at Q four this year or Q one next year, I'd be willing to say, you know, that a top three worldwide model will be a U S based open source model.”
Sunny Madra Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 16:35 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Aug 28, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: OpenAI scaled users and revenue faster than any previous company
“We've never seen two companies in the case of open AI scale users and scale revenue as fast as they are”
Brad Gerstner Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 3:01 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Aug 28, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gurley: AI startup capital and burn exceed Uber-DoorDash wars
“Look, there's just no denying that the amount of capital that is going into these companies earlier in their life and the scale of hiring and their willingness to take on risk, which I think you can use cash burn as just a proxy for risk because you get furthe…”
Bill Gurley Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 1:56 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Aug 28, 2025 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Gerstner: OpenAI and Anthropic Private Rounds Eclipse Recent Tech IPOs
“I think these are bigger private IPOs than any public IPO done in the last five years in the tech market, right?”
Brad Gerstner Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 1:30 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Aug 28, 2025 positive
Opinion
Gurley: ByteDance operates China's closest equivalent to OpenAI's consumer app
“If someone said, Whose app is closest to open AIs in China? It's already an app from ByteDance that's out there.”
Bill Gurley Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 50:12 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Wu: Los Alamos OpenAI supercomputer deployment is shared with Lawrence Livermore and Sandia
“The other cool thing is it's actually being shared between Los Alamos and some of the other labs Lawrence Livermore Sandia as well because it, it's the supercomputer setup where they can all kind of connect with it remotely.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 16:35 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Wu: OpenAI deployed o3 on an air-gapped Los Alamos supercomputer
“We actually did a custom on-prem deployment with them onto one of their supercomputers called Venado. And so this actually involves a bunch of, you know very bespoke work with some FDs also with a lot of our developer team. To actually bring one of our reasoni…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 14:46 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Insight
Wu: Reinforcement fine-tuning is an order of magnitude more powerful than SFT
“Reinforcement fine tuning introduces like RL or reinforcement learning to this loop. Way more complex, way more finicky, but an order of magnitude more powerful.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 40:09 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Opinion
Wu: GPT-5 enables single-generation code completions in the Codex CLI
“The second thing, honestly, is, is GPT-V. Like, I just think GPT-V really allows the product to shine. It's, you know, at the end of the day, this is kind of a, this is a product that really is dependent on the model, underlying model. And when you have to, yo…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 52:33 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Godement: OpenAI models power live voice support features in T-Mobile app
“And so we've been working with T-Mobile pretty much for the past year at that point to basically automate like not only like text support but also voice support. And so today, like, you know, there are like features like in the T-Mobile app That if you call, a…”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 7:25 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025
Insight
Wu: Enterprise AI Evals Must Be Built Bottom-Up by Operators
“And evals also, oftentimes, need to come up bottom up. Right? Because all of these things are kind of in people's heads, in the actual operator's heads. Like, it's actually very hard to have a top-down mandate of, like, you got, like, this is how the evals sho…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 19:17 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Wu: GPT-4 already existed internally at OpenAI by September 2022
“The first one was right when I joined the company in September, 20, 22. We, it was pre-TiGPT. But at the time, GPT-IV already existed internally.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 1:06:47 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: GPT-5 hallucinations dropped to near zero on certain benchmark evaluations
“I think there was an eval that showed that hallucinations basically went to zero for a lot of this.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 30:00 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Wu: Accordance achieved SOTA results on Tax Bench via OpenAI RFT
“There's another startup called Accordance that's doing this in the tax space. I think they've been targeting an eval called Tax Bench, which looks at, you know, CPA style tasks as well. And because they, because, you know, they're able to turn it into a very g…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 41:24 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: The majority of the startup ecosystem builds on OpenAI's API
“The biggest product that we have is obviously our developer platform, which is our API. [271] Sherwin Wu: You know, many developers, you know, the majority of the startup ecosystem builds on top of this, as well as a lot of digital natives, Fortune 500 enterpr…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 4:21 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Godement: GPT-5 is the first release tuned through months of customer testing
“On the behavior of the model, I think it's the first model, like, large model release, for which we have worked so closely with a bunch of customers for, like, month and month, essentially, to better understand, like, what are the concrete, like, locks?”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 26:49 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Godement: OpenAI Has Closed Part of the Intelligence Gap Between Voice and Text
“One of the feedback that we've received is, you know, Because, like, text was so much in the back on intelligence, like, people felt, like, in particular on voice, that the model was somewhat a little less intelligent, and, you know, until you actually see it,…”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 33:35 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025
Insight
Godement: Enterprise AI Deployments Fail Without Subject Matter Experts on Tiger Teams
“The reality is, like, the standard, like, operating procedures, like the SOPs, are largely in people's heads. And so, unless you have that tiger team, like, mix of, like, technical and, like, you know, subject matter experts, Really hard, like, to get somethin…”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 18:43 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Wu: ChatGPT is roughly the fifth largest website in the world
“ChatGPT obviously is really, really, really big now. [233] Sherwin Wu: It's I think like the fifth largest website in the world.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 3:51 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Godement: Reinforcement fine-tuning will become the norm for pushing AI capability frontiers
“Pushing the frontier on, like, actual capabilities, my hunch is that RFT will pretty much become the norm. Like, you know, if you are actually pushing in your field, like, you know, intelligence, like, you know, to a pretty high point, like, at some point, lik…”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 42:10 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: GPT-5 Pro solves previously unsolved problems but takes ten minutes
“These like unsolved problems that none of the other models could handle, you throw out a GPT-V Pro, and it just like one shots it is pretty crazy, but the trade-off here is you're waiting for 10 minutes.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 28:22 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 neutral
Insight
Wu: Failed Enterprise AI Deployments Usually Lack Data Scaffolding
“My hunch is some of the enterprise deployments that don't actually work out likely don't have the scaffolding or infrastructure for these agents to interact with as well. A lot of the, like, really successful deployments that we've made, a lot of what our FDs …”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 24:41 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Wu: GPT-5 solves coding problems no other AI model can solve
“Especially for like coding use cases, especially at the, you know, at the, when it thinks for a while, it'll usually solve problems that no other models can solve.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 29:42 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: OpenAI used T-Mobile deployment learnings to improve core Realtime models
“And a lot of the improvements that we actually got into the model came out of, you know, the learnings that we have from T-Mobile. It brings in a lot of other change from other customers, but because we were so deeply embedded into T-Mobile and we were able to…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 11:03 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Godement: OpenAI PMs stopped writing PRDs to vibe-code prototypes instead
“We started, like, essentially not doing, like, PRDs, like, product requirements documents. You know, classic PM thing. You write, like, five pages, like, my product does that, et cetera. And, you know, PMs have been basically VibeCoding prototypes.”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 56:28 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Godement: OpenAI is working with Amgen to accelerate drug development
“We've been working essentially with AppGen to essentially speed up, like the drug, like development and like communication process.”
Olivier Godman Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 11:50 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025
Assertion Supported
Wu: OpenAI's original product was its developer API, not ChatGPT
“When I joined OpenAI around three years ago to work on the API, it was actually the only product that we had. [178] Sherwin Wu: So I think a lot of people actually forget this, where the original product for, from OpenAI actually was not ChatGPT. [183] Sherwin…”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 2:49 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 11, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: OpenAI is currently operating in a GPU crunch
“We are in a GPU crunch, so we'll see how, you know, how long that goes.”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 54:05 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Sep 26, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Huang: NVIDIA is partnering directly with OpenAI to self-build infrastructure
“This new partnership is about helping OpenAI, working, partnering with OpenAI to build their own self-build AI infrastructure for the first time. And so this is us working directly with OpenAI at the chip level, at the software level, at the systems level, at …”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 5:45 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 26, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Huang: OpenAI is likely the next multi-trillion dollar hyperscaler
“I think that OpenAI is likely going to be the next multi-trillion dollar hyperscale company. Hyperscale like, ah, like Meta's a hyperscale. Google's a hyperscale. They're going to have consumer and enterprise services, and, ah, they are very likely going to be…”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 4:00 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 26, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Huang: OpenAI and xAI will likely consume compute capacity internally
“I think they'll likely use it themselves and just in the case of X, they'll likely use it themselves.”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 8:00 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 26, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Huang: OCI, OpenAI, and SoftBank have contracted 5 to 7 gigawatts
“The second is the OCI build out. And I think there's some five, six, seven gigawatts about to be built out. And so working with OCI and OpenAI and SoftBank to build that out. Those projects are contracted.”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 5:14 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 26, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Huang: OpenAI has 800 million active users
“OpenAI has eight hundred million active users.”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 1:35:15 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Sep 26, 2025 positive
Opinion
Huang: Every country must develop sovereign AI capabilities
“And so I think that, that every country needs to have some sovereign capability. I recommend that they all use OpenAI, they all use Gemini, they all use, you know, these, Open models. You use Grok, and I think they, I recommend they all do that. I recommend th…”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 1:01:14 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 14, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: OpenAI deals imply $150B in CapEx by 2030
“If you add them all up, it looks like to me, OpenAI would be on the hook for like a hundred and fifty billion of CapEx in 2030.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 27:17 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 14, 2025 bearish
Assertion Supported
Gurley: Microsoft's OpenAI deal uses cloud credits to create cashless revenue
“It started with the original, from my perspective, with the original Microsoft open AI deal where credits go in as A in kind investment. And then those credits are used back against, you know, Azure and Microsoft cloud services. And in the, in that case, you k…”
Bill Gurley Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 10:39 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 14, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: OpenAI generating $150B in 2030 revenue is 'more than plausible'
“Is it plausible they could have a hundred and fifty billion dollars of revenue in 2030, and I would argue as an investor that it's more than plausible that they could have a hundred and fifty billion in revenue, but I think it makes it very, very difficult for…”
Brad Gerstner Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 27:43 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Altman: Cost per unit of intelligence has dropped roughly 40x annually
“This unbelievable reduction in cost per unit of intelligence, let's say it's been averaging like 40 X for a given level per year”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 20:04 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2030
Altman predicts OpenAI's nonprofit will become the largest nonprofit ever
“And also as Satya said, create what we believe will be the largest nonprofit ever.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 4:46 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2030
Altman: OpenAI will eventually build low-power devices running GPT-6 locally
“Someday we will make an incredible consumer device that can run a GPT-Five or GPT-Six capable model completely locally at a low power draw.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 21:15 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Altman: OpenAI is generating well over $13B in revenue
“We're doing well more revenue than that.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 12:35 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Insight
Altman: A 100x drop in compute cost would trigger >100x demand surge
“If the price of compute per like unit of intelligence or whatever, however you want to think about it. Fell by a factor of a hundred tomorrow, you would see usage go up by much more than a hundred. And there'd be a lot of things that people would love to do wi…”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 16:00 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI announced directing first $25B of nonprofit to health and security
“You announced that you're going to direct the first twenty five billion to health and AI security and resilience, Sam.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 5:55 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft did not expect initial $1B OpenAI bet to return 100x
“It's not what we thought, and as I said to somebody, it's not like when we first invested our billion dollars that, oh, this is going to be the hundred bagger that I'm going to be talking about to VCs about, but here we are.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 3:36 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Altman: OpenAI has no IPO date or formal decision to go public
“No, no, no, we don't have anything that specific. I'm a realist. I assume it will happen someday, but that was I don't know why people write these reports. We don't have like a date in mind. We don't have a decision to do this or anything like that. I just ass…”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 22:31 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
What-if
Altman: OpenAI could not have succeeded without Microsoft and Nadella's conviction
“I don't think, I think this is one of the great tech partnerships ever and without, certainly without Microsoft and particularly Satya's early conviction we would not have been able to do this.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 4:15 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft refused OpenAI requests for dedicated multi-gigawatt compute clusters
“Sometimes you may have to say no to some of the demand, including some of the open AI demand, right? Because sometimes, you know, Sam may say, hey, build me a dedicated, you know, big, you know, whatever, multi-gigawatt data center in one location for training…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 43:39 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Altman: OpenAI will keep stateless APIs exclusive to Azure through 2030
“We are keeping what Satya termed once. And I think it's a great phrase of stateless APIs on Azure exclusively through 20, 30 and everything else we're gonna You know, distribute elsewhere.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 8:34 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft has royalty-free access to OpenAI IP for seven years
“Not only we have the exclusivity of the model in Azure, but we have access to the IP. I mean, having a royalty free, let's even forgetting all the know how and the knowledge side of it, but having royalty free access all the way till seven more years gives us …”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 38:51 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nadella: Bill Gates was skeptical of Microsoft's initial $1B OpenAI investment
“Obviously you go to the board and say, hey, I have an idea of taking a billion dollars and giving it to this crazy structure, which we don't even kind of understand. What is it? It's a nonprofit, blah, blah, blah. And saying, go for it. There was a debate. Bil…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 34:05 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Altman: Average employee age at OpenAI is around low thirties
“It's not crazy young. Not, not like most Silicon Valley startups. I don't know, maybe low thirties average.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 1:31 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Nadella: Seeing Codex in GitHub Copilot triggered Microsoft's 1-to-10 OpenAI investment
“Then seeing the early codecs inside of Copilot, inside of GitHub Copilot, and seeing just the code completions, and seeing it work, that's when I would say we, I felt like I can go from one to 10. Because that was the big call, quite frankly. One was controver…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 34:45 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nadella: Kevin Scott's conviction drove Microsoft's big AI bet
“Quite frankly Kevin's conviction that this is worth going after is one of the big things that drove this.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 36:50 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Altman: Customers will pay premium rates for breakthrough-level AI models
“Now, on the other hand, as the models get even smarter and you can use these models to cure cancer or discover novel physics or drive a bunch of humanoid robots to construct a space station or whatever crazy thing you want, then maybe there's huge willingness …”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 16:20 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Nadella: Microsoft does not plan to sell its OpenAI stake
“You could also say, hey, the hundred and thirty five billion dollars that is, you know, today are equity stake, you know, is sort of illiquid, what have you. We don't plan to sell it, so therefore it's got risk associated with it.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 40:58 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Opinion
Altman: Retail access is the most appealing part of an OpenAI IPO
“Honestly, that, that is probably the single most appealing thing about it to me. That would be really nice.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 24:04 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
What-if
Altman: 10x more compute would yield near 10x revenue for OpenAI
“If we had 10 X more compute, I don't know if we'd have 10 X more revenue, but I don't think it'd be that far.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 15:00 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI has a $250B Azure compute commitment with Microsoft
“You have the profit you make off the two hundred and fifty billion dollar of the Azure compute commitment from OpenAI.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 37:17 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2026
Altman expects coding AI to execute multi-day tasks by 2026
“Codex has been a very cool thing to watch this year, and as these go from multi-hour tasks to multi-day tasks, which I expect to happen next year, what people be able to do to create Software at an unprecedented rate.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 28:15 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: California AG will not object to OpenAI restructuring
“The California attorney general said they're not going to object to it.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 5:46 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nadella: OpenAI has beaten every business plan presented to Microsoft
“And let me just say one thing Brad as both a partner and an investor, there is not been a single business plan that I've seen from open AI that they're put in and not beaten it.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 14:10 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Nadella: Microsoft Azure was OpenAI's first sponsor in 2016
“We were involved even in 2016 when initially OpenAI started, in fact, Azure was even the first sponsor, I think. And then they were doing a lot more reinforcement learning at that time. I remember the Dota two competition, I think, happened on Azure, and then …”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 33:00 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI revenue share sends billions annually to Microsoft
“So, you have the value in the rev share, billions per year going, going to Microsoft.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 37:11 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Altman: OpenAI would still rely on Microsoft distribution even with superintelligence
“Brad, to say the obvious, if we had super intelligence tomorrow, we would still want Microsoft's help getting this product out into people's hands and we want them like, yeah.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 11:08 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 negative
Opinion
Altman: OpenAI Does Not Know How to Comply with Colorado AI Act
“I don't know how we're supposed to comply with that California, sorry, Colorado law. I would love them to tell us you know, we'd like to be able to do it, but that's just, from what I've read of that, that's like I literally don't know what we're supposed to d…”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 25:12 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Altman confirms OpenAI is developing new computing device form factors
“That's one reason I'm very excited that we're doing new form factors of computing devices, because computers were not built for that kind of workflow very well.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 30:33 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: OpenAI non-profit is capitalized with $130 billion in stock
“The nonprofit is already capitalized with a hundred and thirty billion dollars, a hundred and thirty billion dollars. Of open AI stock.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 5:33 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Nadella confirms Microsoft owns approximately 27% of OpenAI on diluted basis
“Yeah, it does. But I would say before even our stake in it, Brad, I think what's pretty unique about OpenAI is the fact that as part of OpenAI's process of restructuring, one of the largest nonprofit gets created.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 3:04 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Held up
Altman predicts AI will make a novel scientific discovery by 2026
“I hope for very small scientific discoveries in 20, 26, but if we can get those very small ones, we'll get bigger ones in future years. That's a really crazy thing to say is that like AI is going to make a novel scientific discovery in 20, 26, even a very smal…”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 28:41 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 negative
Opinion
Nadella: State AI Regulatory Patchwork Disproportionately Harms Startups
“I mean, I think the fundamental problem of you know, this patchwork approach is quite frankly, I mean, between OpenAI and Microsoft, we'll figure out a way to navigate this, right? I mean we can figure this out. The problem is anyone starting a startup and try…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 25:34 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Nadella: Microsoft's $13.5B OpenAI investment was equity, not booked as Azure revenue
“Our investment of let's say that 13 and a half, which was all the training investment, that was not booked as revenue. That is the reason why we have the equity percentage. That's the reason why we have the 27% or a hundred and thirty-five billion. So that was…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 50:59 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025
Disclosure
Nadella confirms Microsoft-OpenAI revenue share runs until AGI or term end
“Yeah, we have a rev share, and I think as you characterized it, is either going to AGI or till the end of the term.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 9:18 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Altman: OpenAI scaled compute roughly 10x over the past year
“We've scaled our compute probably to 10 X over the past year”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 15:00 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Insight
Nadella: Running OpenAI workloads accelerates Microsoft's cost curve reduction
“When you have the biggest workload there is running on your cloud, that means not only are we going to learn faster on what it means to operate with scale, that means your cost structure is going to come down faster than anything else. And guess what? That'll …”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 48:58 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Nadella: Microsoft cannot lose more than $13.5B invested in OpenAI
“If you've invested, let's call it, 13 and a half billion dollars, you can, of course, lose 13 and a half billion dollars. But you can't lose more than 13 and a half billion dollars. At least the last time I checked, that's what you have at risk.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 40:46 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Oct 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Altman: OpenAI will become a major AI cloud and consumer device business
“And that not only will Chachapiti keep growing, but we will be able to become one of the important AI clouds that our consumer device business will be a significant and important thing that AI that can automate science will create huge value.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 13:12 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: Giving flagship AI model away for free boosted revenue and retention
“So we just gave it away for free and that ended up being totally revenue positive and retention positive because it just provided access to the tech.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 4:30 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: Removing the login wall was among ChatGPT's highest-impact growth drivers
“One of the biggest moments when you look at pure impact was, you know, removing the authentication wall.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 8:22 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: Most ChatGPT ads inquiries ask how to run ads, not disable them
“The most common inquiry about ads is not, you know, how do I disable ads or turn off ads, but it's like, how do I run an ad?”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 33:20 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: OpenAI exited its internal Code Red after GPT-5.3 and GPT-5.4
“We just exited the code red Which we knew we would with the launch of 5.3, which, you know, is a great model for the everyday user. It's great to talk to and 5.4, which is workhorse if you're trying to do real knowledge work.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 49:21 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Turley: About 10% of the world currently uses ChatGPT
“We've got about 10% of the world coming to us now.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 7:51 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 bullish
Insight
Turley: Quantitative Knowledge Work Will See Agentic Breakthroughs Due to RL Suitability
“I won't be surprised if you see this happen for other forms of sort of quantitative knowledge work, just because it happens to have the properties that code has. It's testable. You know if it worked or not. It's very RL friendly.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 19:08 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: Raw GPT-4 Did Not Impress Anyone Before Post-Training
“A few weeks or so after I joined OpenAI GPT-IV had finished training, and I remember trying it out, and it actually It didn't impress me at all nor anyone else that week, because it kind of didn't work, and it's because we hadn't figured out how to post train …”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 59:11 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 neutral
Insight
Turley: AI product planning should work backwards from GPU constraints
“It's useful to start with the most zero sum trade off when you do your planning. So I think starting working backwards from GPUs is usually pretty, pretty good idea.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 40:46 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 positive
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Turley: Early OpenAI reasoning model swore after making a mistake
“We were showing this chain of thought as it was streaming out of the model and the model swore and said, like, oh, damn it, may have to adjust, because it realized it had made a mistake in the puzzle. And the fact that it did that, But in particular, the fact …”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 1:01:05 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: ChatGPT was originally intended as a one-month demo
“ChatGPT originally was entirely free, and the reason for that was that it was intended to be a demo. And we were gonna wind it down after a month.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 28:27 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Turley: The vast majority of ChatGPT usage is now mobile
“Today, you know, we're mobile first. The vast majority of us is mobile, and we see all these personal use cases, and I think search was a big investment that got us there, and personalization makes Shachabiti so much more relevant for you, right, because it ge…”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 6:13 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Turley: AI demand and token consumption increase despite falling prices
“When you just look at token consumption per user especially in the enterprise too, which is, you know a massive opportunity. You see a lot of very GPU hungry, hungry workflows, and yes, demand keeps going up even as prices go down.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 39:44 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 neutral
Insight
Turley: Lack of focus is OpenAI's biggest failure risk as AGI nears
“If you were to pre-mortem why a company like OpenAI does not achieve its mission, it's probably focus because of the sheer number of opportunities that become possible when you approach AGI, right?”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 46:36 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Turley: General-purpose AI agents are about to reach critical usability
“And I do think we're about to get to that point with general purpose agents where it works well enough that you get at least partial credit, and because you're getting partial credit, you get really good tasks back, and then the magic begins because you know, …”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 16:29 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Turley: ChatGPT reasoning currently serves only power users but is transformative
“When you look at reasoning in ChatGPT today, it's irrelevant to a very small group of people. It's relevant for the people who are trying to get the most out of ChatGPT, but I fundamentally believe that reasoning, it's transformative”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 12:55 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Mar 15, 2026
Disclosure
Turley: DALL-E 2 waitlist request led to OpenAI job interview
“I asked her to get off the Dolly Two waitlist, and she told me I had an interview if I wanted to get off the waitlist. So I took the bait and got totally nerd sniped in the process, and here I am.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 1:37 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
Jun 11, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Baker: xAI's Google deal yields higher profit per GW than competitors
“He shows that XAI's deal with Google for cloud computing generates more operating profit per gigawatt than Anthropic, than Meta, than Google, than OpenAI.”
Gavin Baker Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 2:54 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Jun 11, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Baker: Grok 4.3 was the most intelligent 500B parameter model in the world
“Grok 4.3 was on the Pareto frontier, and as of 10 or 12 days ago, and these things move fast, most intelligent, five hundred billion parameter model in the world. And they were on the frontier, and there are four companies on the frontier. XAI, SpaceX AI, Goog…”
Gavin Baker Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 34:16 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Jun 11, 2026 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2031
Gerstner: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI will add $1T revenue in 4-5 years
“The forecast now that we're going to add another trillion of revenue in just three companies, SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI, over the next four to five years, ok? Like, not seven companies, three companies, and in half the time, right?”
Brad Gerstner Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 1:18:36 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
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