Aaron Levie

Co-Founder & CEO, Box · 1 appearance on the record.

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Levie co-founded the cloud content management platform Box in 2005, leading it from an early startup to its 2015 initial public offering and over $1 billion in annual revenue. He is well known across the tech industry for his analyses and commentary on enterprise software architecture, cloud adoption, and agentic AI integration.

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Levie: US H-1B visa quota has stayed at 85,000 for 20 years
“It's basically 85,000 a year, and it's been that way for, you know, 20 years.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:19:16 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod

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Everything Aaron Levie said on BG2 Pod that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Levie: The current US government is "nailing it" on the economy
“I get very confused why we are so passionate about changing the government right now. Like they're like, they're nailing it. Like why, like, why, like why pull out a Jenga piece out of nowhere and then see what changes.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 42:17 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Levie: Google's business model in AI could be as good or better
“I don't think there's a totally, 100% classic innovator dilemma issue with the move to AI with Google. I think on the other end of this the business model could be as good, if not better.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 44:39 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: Cloud-Credit AI Funding Music Will Stop, OpenAI Aside
“I think unfortunately there's like an inevitable, there's going to be an inevitable, you know, that the music will stop at some point on, on, on this particular dynamic. Open AI, you know, aside, just because they actually do have the traction, they probably d…”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 57:32 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Levie: AI coding tools deliver a 30% to 50% programmer productivity boost
“Yeah, so I, I'm probably more in the, you know, 30 to 50% camp in, like, in the best case scenario right now with where we're at, and I think still coding is the number one use case”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:05:07 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: AI adoption is bottlenecked by compute costs, not architecture
“So like we're increasingly not limited by the architecture of the technology. And now we're just limited by like, can Jensen make these things cheaper? Can the, you know, can the engineers at open AI have more efficient model algorithms?”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:09:53 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: Applying identical multiples to 5% and 90% margin businesses is crazy
“If you're like one click or two clicks removed from Sandhill Road and Sandhill's equally to probably blame at certain points, you're sort of like, oh, tech enabled, everything should all get a six or 10 X revenue multiple when the underlying economics of this …”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 5:09 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: Growth-at-all-costs was economically rational for 2010s enterprise SaaS
“I think that was the exactly right economic decision at the time. There was sort of a market share war. You were acquiring customers that maybe had a sort of a five or 10 year You know, kind of lifetime value curve associated with them, maybe even more. And so…”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 10:06 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: More private SaaS companies will succeed than expected years ago
“I think we've been afforded the amount of time, partly because of the AI wave you know, partly because of some kind of, you know, soft landing in the economy where, like, there's going to be a lot more successful outcomes here than I think we would have probab…”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 13:13 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Levie: Tech founders should emulate vertical software compounders rather than Meta
“And I think if we got as enamored by that as building meta, you know, first of all, we'd have a lot less stress all the time. But I think we'd just be building, you know, more, more attractive and valuable companies.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 28:29 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Levie: Zero enterprise CIOs are even 90% migrated to the cloud
“I, you know, get the fortune of talking to, I don't know, you know, dozens of CIOs a month. And there's nobody that is sort of like done with their cloud journey. There's nobody even at 90%. And this is across every, every sector of the economy. So we're still…”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 39:07 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: AI succeeds in coding because code is linear and open-source
“Coding is still working better than most other use cases. And it's because you basically have a workflow where you're in a text interface that is just linear, where most of the sort of knowledge of that, of the field is all public and open source for the most …”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:05:23 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: Expecting GitHub Copilot-level gains across general knowledge work is premature
“So this idea that, that you're going to get a, you're going to get a GitHub co-pilot effect for all forms of knowledge work, at least in the near term, it's way too early to be kind of jumping to that.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:06:01 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: Gross margins structurally dictate whether a company achieves software operating margins
“Your gross margin will ultimately determine your operating margin. There's almost no way that, that you can kind of make those two you know, kind of get out of sync. And so if you're subsidizing something or, you know, or in just such a commodity business and …”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 13:51 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: Deal desk and collections functions are trajectory-defining for cash flow
“There are some of these functions that are so high leverage that if you just nail it you know, the deal desk legal team who's, who's negotiating the contract terms. I mean, these things are like, they literally are trajectory defining in your cashflow.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 16:17 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Levie: Software firms with 90% retention cannot reach high-margin cash flow
“One has a 90% retention rate or something. which means that sales and marketing is required forever to refuel the customer base because of the churn rate of that product. And it means you'll never actually converge on, you'll never actually converge on, on ca…”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 22:30 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Levie: Enterprise AI Remains Strictly in the Experimentation Phase
“AI is just in the experimentation phase. For all intents and purposes in in the enterprise right now.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 39:28 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Levie: US H-1B visa quota has stayed at 85,000 for 20 years
“It's basically 85,000 a year, and it's been that way for, you know, 20 years.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:19:16 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Levie: Box serves 115,000 customers and 70% of the Fortune 500
“We have about a 115,000 customers 70% of the fortune, 500.”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 2:47 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod

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BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigra Feb 8, 2024 39m
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