Kupor: Airbnb's Joe Gebbia redesigned the OPM retirement application with four people.
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Scott Kupor, Director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, explains to Joe Lonsdale how Airbnb co-founder Joe Gebbia bypassed traditional government IT bureaucracy at OPM.
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“Joe literally took a team of two killer engineers and like two great design people, and it's completely redesigned our retirement application, but it worked partly because we had killer people like Joe and team, but also because it was set up organizationally as a separate entity from kind of the very important role that the CIO's office has to do in terms of just like literally maintaining all of the like systems that are already there.”
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