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“The art of having them help you build software, you could deploy to a million people. That's not, that's never going to be easy. That's never going to be trivial. That's always going to require a great deal of depth of experience in what software and how softw…”

“The next rule though is nobody reads the code and this is the thing which StrongDM started doing back in, I think it was August last year. They said, okay, we're not going to read the code.”

“I expect by the end of this year, it will not be uncommon to have an engineer say that almost all of that code is written by AI.”

“There appears to be a very strong correlation between how good their drawing of a pelican riding a bicycle is and how good they are at everything else. And nobody can explain to me why that is. But as I started looking at these things, I realized, wow, The bet…”

“So my prediction is that we're going to see a challenging disaster. Like at some point, this is going to catch up with us and it's going to be Very, very, very bad, and that will hopefully help us start trying to figure out how not to do this. At the same time…”

“Like they were spending 10,000 dollars a day on tokens, I think, simulating all of these end users. I believe so. But it meant that their software was being very robustly tested in all of these different ways.”

“So what they did is they built their own simulation of Slack and Jira and Okta and all of this software they were integrating with. And the way they did that is they basically took the API documentation for the public APIs for Slack and the client libraries, t…”

“Both OpenAI and Anthropic have specialist security models That they will not release to the general public because they can be used to break into websites. So they have like invite only, like registered security researchers can apply for access and they've bee…”

“Both Anthropic and OpenAI spent the whole of 2025 focusing all of their training efforts on coding.”

“We're all moving in the direction where Our code is mediated through AI at some point.”

“I think Firefox just a few days ago, maybe last week said that they'd, they'd done a release, which was assisted by Anthropic. Anthropic had Discovered a hundred like potential vulnerabilities in Firefox and responsibly reported them to Mozilla who then fixed …”

“Artisanal to handcrafted software, I think is going to be valued more.”

“So like, I think the new hello world of AI engineering is going to be building your own claw.”

“Cloudflare and Shopify, both said they were hiring a thousand interns over the course of 20, 25. Because the intern onboarding costs, it used to be takes a month before you enter and can do anything useful. Now they're doing something useful within like a week…”

“The first line of code for OpenClaw was written on November the 25th. And then in the super bowl, there was an ad for AI.com, which was effectively a vaporware white labeled open claw hosting provider. So we went from first line of code in November to super bo…”