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Anthropic's Joseph: Certain AI Alignment Pieces Will Move to Pre-Training
“I do think at some point there will be, like, some pieces of alignment that, like, you do want to export back into pre-training because that might be a way to, like, Put them in with more strength, like, more robustness, kind of, or more core to the intelligen…”
Anthropic's Joseph: Scaling alone likely will not achieve AGI without further paradigm shifts
“Like I think the sort of shift towards more RL is like one paradigm shift in the field, and I think it's, I think there will probably be more. I think a lot of people sort of argue about like, oh, it's like, you know, current paradigm's enough to get us to EGI…”
Joseph: Anthropic avoids pre-training and post-training rivalry seen at other labs
“Yeah, I think we managed to avoid this, and it's pretty collaborative. Like, we're basically all producing one model and kind of can, but I do think at other places there's been some, from what I've heard, there's been some amount of, like, friction between, b…”
Joseph: Adversaries actively publish web data designed to poison AI models
“There are people who are, like, trying to put stuff out that is, like, as damaging as possible for the model, you know, how can I make it past the filter and get into the model would be totally like secretly useless.”
Joseph: AI progress relies on a revenue-to-compute positive feedback loop
“There's this positive feedback loop where you can train a model, You can use it to make something useful and sell that and get more money, use that to buy more compute, and then use that to train a better model. And we've sort of run that cycle over and over a…”
Joseph: Original scaling laws paper spanned 11 orders of magnitude
“Like, you know, the scaling, I think the original scaling laws paper had, like, 11 orders of magnitude, and there was, like, this intense debate on whether it would continue for, like, another point.”
Joseph: Public estimates placed GPT-3 training cost at $5 million
“Like the public estimates for GP three, I remember, were that it cost five million dollars to train, which you're like, on the one hand, five million is kind of a lot, but it's like a lot for an individual person. It's not really a lot from like a company pers…”