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“And I can, there's one example we have published, which is that the model was put into a little sandbox, a little, like, technical container, and it was given the task to, like, maybe break out, and the researcher went away for lunch, and, like, during lunch w…”

“I actually don't think that the future is going to be hyper personalized software down to the point where everyone is running their own version. Like, I actually think it's going to be quite hard for one of us to have our own internal chat tool.”

“Mythos is a unreleased frontier model. It's a general purpose model that was trained not specifically for cybersecurity or specifically for coding or specifically for software, but we have discovered what we believe to be outsized capabilities specifically in …”

“The models we have today are actually quite capable. They're quite capable of running knowledge work of both of an extremely long time horizon, the kind of things that you give to someone and expect like a week later.”

“It's in the harness, actually, and it's, like, often surprising to people when I talk to them how we, how we've implemented memory, because I think it maybe points at the simplicity underneath all of those models. Memory is just text files.”

“My prediction is going to be That we are going to have a lot more software. That software is probably going to be slightly more specialized. I don't think everyone is going to build their own software. I think people will still build things and, like, share th…”

“We have reasons to believe the journey is accelerating so that the steps are going to get bigger and bigger.”

“I think we're going to see a lot of like applications and companies that do very impressive things with AI that in the short term might seem very effective because they're very specialized to individual use cases. But I think once models get better at generali…”

“Big bang moment where things will accelerate so quickly that it becomes a self-reinforcing loop. And at that point it's sort of like off to the races and there will be no more like slowly catching up. You know, just have Claude being so good at everything.”

“A lot of the value you can provide will probably be less on the agent side. It will be less on the model intelligence. There will be more about how do you help people organize their work”

“I don't think we're far away from claw being very effective at like using your computer and not just a theoretical computer.”

“If your bank sees you logging in from two separate places, say your computer and also a data center, it will probably lock down your account. And we'll ask you to come to a branch with a passport.”

“And when Visual Studio Code first was released inside the company, there was a feeling that this is a toy. This is not for real developers, because the real developers, they need Visual Studio, which is why Visual Studio Code is such a complicated long name, b…”

“Cowork is cloud code running in a virtual machine with a little bit of padding, a little bit more guardrails, making it a little safer, a little bit more convenient for people who don't want to first open up the terminal when they go to work.”

“We do have skills as part of this container format, which was just called plugins. And plugins are available both for Cloud Code and Cloud Cowork, the same format. And you can install plugins. This works in Cowork today. You can basically say, I'm going to add…”

“I think our current models are quite capable of taking an Electron app and replicating it Swift.”

“So for now it's a preview model with its own, in its own category.”

“Skills are essentially just markdown files that explain to the model how to do things.”

“So in practice, if you are a co-work user, you will probably continue to see fairly meaningful changes shipping every single week, quite a bit. There's really no end in sight, I think.”

“Right when we launched Cowork, I think one of the users that went most viral on Twitter X was clean up your desktop, which is of course silly. That's such a smart thing, right? Like you don't need a model to clean up your desktop.”

“A lot of people write me like, hey, how, how come Cloud is taking up 10 gigabytes? I could say on that point, it's not actually taking up 10 gigabytes. It's just like a way that Mac OS displays bytes is like wrong, but the way we actually write it to disk is b…”