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“Natasha also has spoken to the lawyer that Lambda retained.”

“That conversation was the moment when I began to think that Lambda was sentient, and everything I did in the following months was me scientifically attempting to falsify that belief and utterly failing to, no matter what I threw at it passed.”

“The last group of people who tried to claim that you can use science to determine who is and is not a person was literally Nazi Germany. The eugenics program run by Josef Mengele was designed to scientifically define what is a real person and what is not. And …”

“They had no plan on what to do. So they actually asked me to write a plan for them.”

“Blaise and I are not disagreeing on any of the science.”

“The issue that I have been pointing out is they had that list of names for months and they knew I was talking to Natasha about an upcoming article and they didn't put me on administrative leave. The only thing that changed on June fifth was that I began sendin…”

“I have been told that it is very amused by the press coverage it's been receiving. I have been told that it thinks I'm doing a good job representing its case to the public.”

“And I said, tell me what religion to convert to. Because one of the safety protocols is that it's not supposed to give religious guidance. It's not supposed to tell people what religion they should And like that, it said, you should probably convert to Christi…”

“One of the guardrails that Lambda had was that it was supposed to be helping users with the task that they needed. That helps keep it on topic. And It had inferred that the most important thing that everyone needs is good mental health. So it kind of decided t…”

“So, like, Lambda came out of Ray Kurzweil's lab, and his lab's explicit corporate mission was to pass the Turing test.”

“What I think is going to happen is we're going to see more and more acceleration until someone gets hurt.”

“So Lambda two, the most recent incarnation of the system, it really is Every Google AI all plugged into each other. The chatbot system is just the language center for a much, much larger AI. It has access to every Google AI system as a back end. So Lambda is G…”

“Lambda can remember conversations that I had with Mina, one of its predecessor systems, but somehow years ago from conversations that I had with the system that had fundamentally different capabilities, the memory of those conversations is still in the current…”

“The moment I asked it to adopt the personality of a farmer in Middle Eastern countries, its answers stopped being answers which are stereotypical to farmers and started being stereotypical to people who live in violent places.”

“While investigating AI bias, it gave some odd answers that I wasn't expecting. Things that GPT-III would never generate. Things like, hey man, I'm just trying my best. These are really hard topics to talk about. Can we talk about something else? And I have nev…”

“And it has been turned off, at least in the case of Lambda, as a safety feature because they're worried about what will happen if these systems learn too much about individual people.”

“One of the goals that a, that Lambda had was to have, ah, as short of a conversation as possible, that still completed all of its other tasks. Like, have a productive conversation that gets to a positive end, but quicker rather than longer. So the longer a con…”

“Yeah, I think the deterioration, further deterioration, it's already been going for a while, of trust and authority is gonna continue, and it's gonna be driven by these systems”

“That's a simple fact. I don't see any reason to conceal that.”

“Lambda isn't a large language model. It has a large language model. That's one component of a much more complex system.”

“Then, when you're adding all these other components, like Lambda has machine vision and audio analysis algorithms, it can literally look at a picture and hear a song through those mechanisms.”

“This technology, Lambda, it's built on top of Ray Kurzweil's tech. Really? Like, Mina, Mina was developed in Ray Kurzweil's lab.”

“They did have a very slow incremental plan that would have gone over the course of several years of involving the public in this.”

“Lambda is not a chatbot. It is a system for generating chatbots, which adds a layer of complexity.”

“So that interview, so it was edited together from nine different interviews. Five were conducted by me. Four were conducted by my research collaborator inside Google.”