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“If this works, what does that, that eliminates a lot of apps. That eliminates ton, apps could become simple actions.”

“Otherwise they're basically eliminating apps or the need for apps. To enhance their products, and they're not gonna get that 30% cut anymore.”

“I think it's gonna happen. I mean, after the announcement of the 16, I think I think it's probably gonna be sooner rather than later”

“Tim Pool knew something was up and to not question that I think is what is raising the ire of everyone around.”

“I don't think he thinks it's here. Otherwise, he would say it. He's a, I mean, these guys, like, Greg Brockman, they are believers. I believe they are believers. So, if they believed it, they would say it.”

“Again, GPT-V, we all know, felt like a massive dud that was supposed to be that magic moment for everyone”

“If it starts to show that this is actually a much cheaper way, a more compute efficient way to approach any kind of workflow, like, people will probably start leaning towards it more or pushing for it. Or if OpenAI does not do it, then others will, which I do …”

“To me, the central reason why I just cannot think it's not marketing is because it's, if this truly were the case, I don't how, understand how we as a society would not only do everything in our power to try to restrict these companies, I certainly would not i…”

“I don't want to say it's a complete non-event, but you could already do this in Salesforce and Claude. At Rider, where I work, people connect to Salesforce and run all types of queries. It's actually one of the most valuable things I've found for my day-to-day…”

“The way Salesforce is positioning themselves, if you give up the UI layer, I think that's a big mistake, because in reality, And this is a big question. Whose data is it? Is it the customer's data, or is it Salesforce's data?”

“That, I mean, if you separate it from the layoffs and all the other kind of organizational questions, like, this is, to me, exactly what companies should be testing and doing and figuring out what the new operating model is and that teams should look different…”

“The other, this is my favorite, like, I honestly think all feeds should just be reverse chronological order. No algorithm.”

“Like, Leopold and situational awareness. These stories, this is the early part of any kind of bubbles ending cycle.”

“And meanwhile, like, every, conveniently, at any moment, I mean, we're all just seeing these numbers, like, this is a very, and again, Anthropix, Sandwich in the Park, their comms masters, like, all this stuff is orchestrated. I can't, like, it has to be. And …”

“So, I'm still gonna look at all of this as rational, like, the rationalization of the markets, rather than the unraveling of the markets.”

“The reason this raised alarm bells is, I think this was Google's First quarter of projected negative free cash flow ever. So, I mean, ever. Like, that's crazy.”

“Again, working in enterprise AI for a company that is only focused on enterprise AI since its founding, you see how that energy distorts the proper conversation very quickly when open AI comes in. Like suddenly the way people approach it, the scale with which …”

“Now with that option, if you have any fear that they're going to take everything that you're giving them because you're using their models and then recreate your business, you now have an option. And I think that's gonna, that can slow things. Again, the speed…”

“I'll say, I'll give them credit that still on like multimodality image and video, they still kind of own it right now. And everyone kind of puts them far in a way like I do. I really never hear that much about chat GBT image too, or, Any of these others, like …”

“Played a bit with ChatGPT work. Was definitely underwhelmed. It felt a bit rushed in terms of, like, how Claude co-work was kind of slowly built out, and now has been integrated into the main Claude interface as, like, a separate button, which is another topic…”

“Using this stuff out of the box, everyone, no enterprise actually sees any kind of value realization. Like they don't, things don't work well.”

“And remember, this is a company with an 18.7 billion dollars of revenue total. I mean, Amazon, it surpassed its market cap. Amazon has seven hundred fifty billion dollars in revenue. Like this is a company that's losing four billion dollars.”

“I think the reason I get so suspect on it is how perfectly coordinate coordinated a lot of the marketing and communications are. Around how they roll these out. Like, again, mythos is the most dangerous thing. There's someone eating a sandwich in a park that a…”

“At least anthropic is not. I mean, I don't think they're going in that direction at all. Google and Gemini. Obviously, 100% will.”

“The conversation around moving towards deep seek and adding it into your agentic process or adding Chinese models did not exist in any conversation I was in 12 months ago and now is in almost every conversation, at least as an option, because cost has become s…”

“As the investment banks who led this IPO are making a record, reaping a record-making five hundred fifty million dollars in fees, Goldman Sachs, who is leading the deal, has remade its entire lobby and cafeteria with a space theme.”

“I just hope, I want them to, I don't think they can.”

“I think the 4.8 was actually like, kind of like a pretty big dud.”

“I think shareholders, the idea that they would sue, that you did not release that to the general public when a competitor was being careless and callous, I don't think would happen.”

“So, so if I'm Microsoft, I actually agree. I don't think that's the right approach. I think like, you know what? Let them all battle it out.”

“I think we're going to see a pullback and we are going to recognize, but structurally, I mean, this is the thing structurally, when you go to your entire engineering team and say, Go use as much as you can of this when there's no clear direction.”

“Again, like SpaceX is targeting a raise between 40 and eighty billion dollars.”

“There's been a lot of growth, but we all know Codex show a five point show up from open AI recently. I've seen endless chatter around people actually switching over from anthropic. So the idea that it's going to be a straight line or not even straight line, I'…”

“In the SpaceX S one document, they talk about how Anthropic has agreed. And this is one of the big, like revenue boosters for them. To spend 1.25 billion dollars per month through May 2029. But they explicitly say in May and June, 2026, it is at a reduced fee.”

“Interoperability model routing based on request being model provider agnostic on the foundation model side is where I see this going. It's not gonna be one, and I mean, we've talked about this for a long time, one model to rule them all, systems that can route”

“Certainly Google has a more AI native feel the way even ask questions in maps. Even again, we've talked about this at length that Gemini and Gmail still kind of sucks, but like they still feel more AI native than Microsoft.”

“Right now, I feel there's, if from a pure, like, let's just talk about AI, I have to think Google is number one.”

“The ChatGPT integration into Siri was one of the single worst product experiences I have ever seen. It was so clunky bad that, like, if a Series A startup put out something like that, I would be ashamed of it.”

“Even though I believe strongly that agentic AI will kind of, like, have a massive impact on the world, and certainly the enterprise, I don't know, all these compute stories really push around, let's just blindly extrapolate over from the last six to eight mont…”

“See, I think in aggregate, it has not yet, because it's still, again, at the enterprise level especially, it's still, other than coding, it's still not widely adopted at any kind of scale, especially on the agentic side, and that's something, like, it's pickin…”

“To me, it's still not significantly different than manufacturing automation in the 2000 and what that did to blue collar work in the U S and also outsourcing within China. And this is a whole other discussion right now. We only got two minutes left, but to me,…”

“I don't think, when everyone is rushing towards the same thing, that for a company like OpenAI that has such a foothold in consumer, it's the right decision.”

“I mean, based on Gemini's numbers in the consumer market, they've shown you can do that.”

“The U.S. Senate unanimously. How rarely do we see something along bipartisan lines barring senators from trading on prediction markets?”

“Apple today and any regular listener will know that as someone fully locked into the Apple ecosystem, it's just not been an exciting company you love any longer. It's a company that you're stuck with, and it's just felt like that for a long time”

“I don't understand why robots need a human form factor. I want purpose-built and whatever this tabletop robot is doing on that table, I'm sure it's something very helpful.”

“I think like just being able to do some kind of like image alteration or improvement, or even like UX layout of a website. I think that kind of skill has been Going the way of someone kind of like writing email subject lines for a long time”

“I hate super app. I don't, it, no one's gonna be WeChat in the U.S.”