People, every show

Zhamak Dehghani

Founder & CEO, Nextdata. On 1 show, 1 appearance. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

founderengineerauthor@zhamakd ↗LinkedIn ↗nextdata.com ↗

Zhamak Dehghani is the creator of the Data Mesh concept and author of Data Mesh: Delivering Data-Driven Value at Scale. Formerly Director of Emerging Technologies at Thoughtworks, she founded Nextdata to develop platforms for decentralized data products.

1shows
1appearances
9statements
0resolved
0supported
0contradicted
8said about them ↓

Everything Zhamak Dehghani said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

MAD Insight
Dehghani: Centralized data architecture creates systems fragile to macro-level change
“Centralization of the data, centralization of the organization, functional division between the data and non-data, those are the things that have led to kind of a system that is fragile to scale and change at the macro level, not at the bits and bytes level, r…”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 5:10 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dehghani: Current Data Mesh setups are Frankenstein creations stitching existing tech
“At this point in time, it looks like a Frankenstein creation because we have to stitch together a lot of technologies that exist and they weren't designed for this model of reconfiguring, you know, being reconfigured in this way.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 18:04 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dehghani: Data engineering and data science will become basic engineering skills
“I think one of the big changes would be, we'll move from this specialized and specialization to generalization. So some of the things that we consider specialization today, like data engineering, a large portion of what we call data science becomes basic engin…”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 24:15 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Opinion
Dehghani: The debate between data warehouses and lakes is irrelevant
“And I think this kind of funny war between warehouse and lake and web model We should access the data that that seems to me a little bit irrelevant because both of those access models are very acceptable.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 12:33 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dehghani: Enterprise data usage shifted from operational reporting to embedding ML in applications
“We've moved away from, okay, I'm going to run a few, set up a warehouse and get a few reports and get an insight into the operation of my organizations to actually I want to run, you know, include ML, a data-driven way of solving problems into every feature of…”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 2:27 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dehghani: Data access control is proprietary compared to standardized API access
“Access control right now is very proprietary in data world to the platform you're stuck in compared to the API world where you have some sort of a, you know, standard.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 23:26 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Insight
Dehghani: Enterprise data lake migration should start with data consumer needs
“I think you start going backward from your consumers of the data data lakes. So look at who's accessing it, why they're accessing it, what data do they need? Work backward and go back to the source.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 26:41 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Insight
Dehghani: True data immutability requires both event and processing timestamps
“The data can be only immutable if we build two time timestamps into every single kind of representation of the data, and those two timestamps are when something actually happened, and when we process that information, our understanding of that data.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 28:13 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
MAD Disclosure
ThoughtWorks plans to publish an open-source Data Mesh reference implementation
“So we will publish that open source. We'll have an open source reference implementation. So we're working on it internally.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 31:46 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)

The other half of the tape: Zhamak Dehghani's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 8 times in 5 episodes across the shows. every mention, with the transcript →

Who brings them up most Matt Turck 6Mark Grover 1Felix Van de Maele 1

Every mention by year

tap a year for its mentions
00213220212022202320242025episodesmentions
01220212022202320242025episodes it came up in
001.513220212022202320242025episodesmentions per episode

the MAD Podcast 8

2025 3 mentions in 1 episode
2022 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
2021 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode

One line per show, most statements first. The link opens Zhamak's full record on that show: the calibration, argument clarity, speaking style and every statement made there.

ShowRole thereEpsStatementsRecord
MADLEDGER Founder & CEO, Nextdata 1 9 full record on the MAD Podcast →
Made with StarZero

Turn any episode into a week of clips.

This entire site, thousands of episodes across every show transcribed, diarized, checked and made playable, runs on the StarZero media pipeline. Drop in your own episode and the podcast clipper finds the moments worth sharing, cuts them, captions them, and reframes them for every feed.