Matt Whineray
Chair, FirstCape Group. On 1 show, 1 appearance. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.
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He served as Chief Investment Officer and Chief Executive Officer of the Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation between 2018 and 2023, managing its sovereign wealth fund. Earlier in his career, he held senior investment banking positions at Credit Suisse and First NZ Capital.
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47statements
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4said about them ↓ Everything Matt Whineray said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.
Whineray: Manager skill is rare and difficult to identify in advance
“Manager skill is rare, so the ability to consistently beat a benchmark, it's really hard to identify in advance. Sometimes it's often hard to identify after the fact, right?”
Strategic asset allocation forces allocations regardless of market attractiveness
“The SAA says you're going to have five percent infrastructure whether you think it's attractive or not. You're going to have five percent timber whether you think it's attractive at the time or not. We wanted that to be a little bit more dynamic and a little b…”
Reference portfolios create clearer decision accountability than SAA models
“You're able to much better attribute accountability for decisions because in an SAA world, you can never actually be at five percent infrastructure. So why are you not there? Are you not there because management has chosen not to be there because they don't re…”
Outsourcing strategic tilting fails when pooled LPs lose nerve
“The thing about strategic tilting is that you can be for a long time underwater, and because you're waiting for these markets to mean revert, and they might be slow, or they might move further away from whatever you think the mean is, and so that one we though…”
Whineray: Expanding tilting breadth to individual securities degrades performance
“So you can increase breadth, but I think you reduce confidence, and so we probably don't improve the performance of that by doing that. I think that's the key, is to have breadth of non, hopefully uncorrelated positions, but without destroying the confidence b…”
Median active equity manager in New Zealand generates alpha
“So we do think that in New Zealand, so the New Zealand active equity market is an interesting one in the sense that the median manager Has been able to generate alpha or, you know, excess returns over time.”
Whineray: US active equity market pays fees without generating alpha on average
“Whereas you go to the US Market is a lot of active managers in there. And on average, the whole market is paying fees, but not generating alpha.”
Whineray: Investors can fit almost any investment into a defined theme
“And what you find, I think, a little bit is that you can almost back any investment you like into whatever theme you've defined.”
Whineray: Track records of thematic managers are not fantastic
“And you go and you look at thematic managers around the place, and the records aren't necessarily fantastic, right?”
NZ Super Fund leads $10T investor coalition on social media moderation
“Post the Tragedy in Christchurch, we, together with another group of the New Zealand Crown Investors. We got together to lead an engagement with the social media companies about the, well, aimed at preventing the live streaming of objectionable content and sub…”
Private market low volatility is an illusion exposed in distressed markets
“I think it probably comes down to when you're receiving pitches, people have what I think of as kind of imaginitis around the lack of volatility of private market assets. So Yeah, you get this bit, which is, oh, these things aren't volatile. It's like, okay, w…”
Whineray: NZ Super Fund switched to reference portfolio framework in 2010
“In the beginning, we started with a strategic asset allocation. From 2010, we switched to a portfolio construction approach where we use a reference portfolio.”
Whineray: Long-term investing fundamentally means never being forced to sell
“Ultimately, it means you're never forced to sell something. Your long horizon allows you to hold things through cycles and allows you to withstand volatility as long as it's combined with that liquidity, the liquidity profile allows you to do that.”
Whineray: NZ Super Fund's reference portfolio is purely passive and listed
“The reference portfolio is just a pure passive listed expression.”
Whineray: Asset allocation drives the bulk of portfolio outcomes
“Asset allocation is the key investment decision, so that bulk of the outcomes are determined by what your asset allocation is.”
Whineray: Institutional crowding drives asset class excess returns toward zero
“As more institutional investors get into an asset class, then perhaps the excess returns decline over time to possibly zero or worse, less than that because of fees.”
Whineray: NZ Super Fund's reference portfolio is 80% equities and 20% fixed income
“Eighty-twenty. So it's a pretty growthy portfolio. So there's 65 developed market equities, 10 emerging market, five New Zealand equities, that adds up to 80, and then 20% fixed income.”
NZ Super Fund beat benchmark in 11 of 15 years
“I think we've had 11 positive value add years over the last 15. We've added nearly one and a half percent a year, which is worth sort of eight billion to the New Zealand taxpayer.”
NZ Super prioritizes risk allocation control and fewer, larger manager relationships
“What the target operating model sees is we want to have sort of simpler processes. We've got, want to have more control over the allocation. So that is the risk allocation that, as opposed to the individual investment decisions, but the risk allocation, we wan…”
NZ Super structures active risk allocation across five opportunity baskets
“The risk budgeting process says, alright, we've got a bunch of opportunities, we'll put them into these five different baskets, is what we call them, and then we'll allocate some risk through time to those things, and then the teams are then tasked with going …”
Whineray: Risk budgets should be fixed for years while targets adjust
“So the target does move around. The budget doesn't. Budget we should be looking at every few years, because that shouldn't be changing much. I mean, what's your relative confidence in timber versus global macro versus distressed, or whatever it happens to be. …”
External managers provide better flexibility for cyclical mandates
“In a construct like ours where through time we might be in those, we might not be in those, it's very hard if you've built the team internally to say, actually, we just don't want to invest anything in this opportunity, because then you've got a team who's sit…”
Whineray: NZ Super Fund avoids security-level strategic tilting
“So we haven't gone down below to sector or individual securities because we're more confident at the whole of market level of being able to say, what do we think the long run equilibrium prices or value is? And then compare that to the current price. When you …”
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| CAPITAL ALLOCATORSLEDGER | Chair, FirstCape Group | 1 | 47 | 88% 7/8 | full record on Capital Allocators → |