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Lane Shackleton

Chief Product Officer, Coda. On 1 show, 1 appearance. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Lane Shackleton is the Chief Product Officer at Coda, where he leads product and design. Previously, he spent nine years at Google and YouTube as a Group Product Manager focusing on monetization products.

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Shackleton: Tech career ladders are overly complex and inconsistent
“Most companies have career ladders with, like, 10 or 15 levels, and, you know, as soon as they hit some scale, the levels, there's, like, levels between levels, and I feel like I looked at the one at Google and, you know, you kind of, like, needed a PhD to dec…”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 10:50 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Career ladders flip employee focus from company to individual
“As soon as you introduce this, then the incentives sort of like flipped from being company focused to being individual focused.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 13:15 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Coda does not make employee levels publicly visible internally
“Role stages are not visible across the whole company. Like, you know, we're not showing levels of any individual PM or designer, and that's partially because we just don't want to put a big focus on it.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 15:20 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Coda uses a centralized committee rather than managers for compensation
“We have a centralized compensation committee and that's who decides compensation. And so it's not the manager that drives your compensation.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 15:38 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Product teams should focus on systems rather than goals
“Instead of being as obsessed with a goal, You know, be obsessed with the system that gets you there. And so the phrase I sometimes use is, you know, goals with good intentions don't work.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 19:09 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Discussing product work in 1-on-1s is an anti-pattern
“A lot of work and project work tends to get discussed in one on ones. And actually that's like an, it's really an anti pattern. It's a pattern you should try to avoid. So if you're talking to your manager about product work what's not happening in that moment …”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 53:17 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: OKRs are not strategy and must be separated from planning
“The first that I end up seeing a lot is just this idea that like, okay, ours are not actually strategy. So, you know, I think the way that, that we plan and the way that our customers plan, the kind of key point is it's critical to disconnect like strategy dis…”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 1:19:47 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
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Shackleton: Most large tech companies have 10-15 levels, Coda has five
“I think most other companies, especially large companies has, have 10 to 15 levels. I think we've made a really conscious choice to have only five.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 15:12 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Great stories are built around a five-second moment of transformation
“The nugget of a great story is like five seconds of transformation. So if you just orient like everything else around that, like moment of trans, you know, transformation, then you end up usually telling a reasonably good story.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 29:25 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Tracking 'Oh Shit' Moments Calibrates Career Growth
“The basic kind of thesis is that moments that stretch you are moments that you feel uncomfortable in, or you find yourself saying like, oh shit, you know, I shouldn't be here. I'm underqualified to be here. Those are the moments you should be seeking out, righ…”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 31:56 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Weighting all feedback equally slows organizations down
“Otherwise every bit of feedback is taken the same, which is just fundamentally like the impact of that is it slows everything down. Cause now you're looking at like a list of pieces, a hundred pieces of feedback and you're going like, oh man, we gotta address …”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 39:21 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Product reviews fail due to standing attendees and single-threaded agendas
“Most review forums are You know, product reviews or decision forums is that they generally suffer from two problems that are like kind of hard to spot unless you've sat through, you know, hundreds of them. The first is they have standing attendees. And the sec…”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 42:37 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Assume people don't care to force sharper, concise communication
“You know, I think most people can be like way more concise with their communication. Like even internally, people don't care. You know, like you should assume that people don't care. Or, you know, if you're, you know, talking to customers, writing a blog post …”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 1:10:31 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Decision-making is shifting to interactive 'two-way write-ups'
“And then kind of the thesis is that we're like in the midst of a new phase, which is essentially two-way write-ups and that's where it's more conversational and feedback and discussion is like actually part of the content itself.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 1:15:09 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Teams should spend at most 10% of execution time planning
“What we call a 10% planning rule, which is essentially, you know, just ensure that you're not for a given time period planning for more than 10% of that execution period.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 1:20:42 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Test candidates by having them explain topics to laypeople and experts
“I sometimes do a version of making them explain it two different ways after and making the candidate explain it two different ways and saying like, okay, now you have to explain that to, you know, your grandparent. And then like now, you know, you just told me…”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 1:24:43 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Shackleton: Repeating advice in one-on-ones is a signal to document it
“Anytime you find as a leader yourself kind of like repeating the same lessons, it's a good, it should be a good flag to say like, oh, I could, I should probably scale this in some way.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 10:02 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
Coda scheduled mandatory weekly Friday customer demo sessions in its early days
“In the early days of Coda, we actually did something similar. We had a time allotted on Fridays. And it was basically like, it was on the calendar, a customer or a potential customer was coming in. And so you knew that it was going to happen. And you had to ha…”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 20:20 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)
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Shackleton: Google previously required a CS degree for PM transitions
“I probably worked for at least four or five years before being able to move to PM. And that was, I think that was like a slightly harrowing journey because at the time you had to have a computer science degree.”
Lane Shackleton Oct 1, 2023 ▶ 1:06:34 What sets great teams apart | Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)

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