Jen Abel
Co-Founder, JJELLYFISH. On 1 show, 3 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.
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Jen Abel specializes in zero-to-one founder-led enterprise sales and customer discovery, advising early-stage startups to scale from zero to $10M in ARR through JJELLYFISH. She co-founded JJELLYFISH, leads enterprise sales at State Affairs, and previously held early sales roles at General Assembly and The Muse.
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10said about them ↓ Everything Jen Abel said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.
Abel: The mid-market does not exist in B2B sales
“So I say the mid-market doesn't exist, because what is a mid-market hire? It's either low end enterprise or upper end SMB. And if you bleed those two games, you're going to lose. They're so distinctly different.”
Abel: Tier 1 market leaders are early adopters to defend top ranking
“Early adopters are those logos because they have to continue to stay at the number one spot. So they'll take tons of, you know swings to continue to stay in the number one, staying in the number one spots, the hardest part, right?”
Abel: Tier 1 enterprise logos are more willing to help startups than VCs claim
“There's this running statement where a lot of VCs will say, don't go after tier one logos, go learn down market or go learn from like logos that don't necessarily carry a lot of weight. The ones that carry all the weight are the ones that are willing to take a…”
Abel: Selling services is the fastest way for software startups to enter enterprises
“Selling them as service, even though the technology is powering it on the back end, is the fastest way to get your foot in the door. It's what they know how to buy.”
Abel: Enterprise sales outreach should only target C-level execs or N-1s
“And there's only two entry points starting at the very, very tippy top, meaning going direct to the decision maker, the chief legal officer, or finding the individual that would be maybe one step removed. Okay. I personally, other people would argue with this.…”
Abel: The most successful salespeople are not trained salespeople
“The most successful salespeople are not trained salespeople. That's why founders are so good at this.”
Abel: Never agree to do a group enterprise demo without prior discovery
“A enterprise organization might reach out to you because they're going through a due diligence process to say, Hey, we'd love to see what you guys have built. Will you present this to four or five people? Don't do it. If you're either a checkbox and you don't …”
Abel: B2B sales is not true enterprise without significant annual account expansion
“The whole game is expansion. If you're not going from a hundred K or 250 K to three 50 or 500 the following year, it's not an enterprise motion.”
Abel: Time-box lightweight enterprise software pilots to 48–72 hours
“Time box it to two or three days. Don't make it two weeks. Okay. I've done this enough times to say people will go in usually for half a day and get what they need out of it. Okay. Shorten your sales cycle by two weeks by doing two to 48 or 72 hours.”
Abel: Forward deployed engineers break unit economics on $100k deals
“If you're selling a 100,000 dollar deal and you're pulling a Ford deploy, like your economics are, it's going to get messy.”
Abel: CRM Stages Are For Forecasting, Not Guiding Customer Sales Steps
“Those are buckets to understand how to understand a weighted forecast, right? Like a proposal or something mid funnel might be weighted at 50% of the deal value for the for the pipeline. Something in contracting might be weighted at 80% and something in intro …”
Abel: 90% of founders fail by forcing buyers into rigid sales processes
“90%. Yeah. Because like enterprise sales is, it's mirroring their buying process. It's trying to control their buying process. It's not plopping these people into your sales process.”
Abel: A healthy enterprise sales win rate is 25% to 35%
“The win rate for enterprise, a good, healthy win rate. It's actually probably going to surprise you. It's not. Meaning of all sales qualified leads or opportunities with a healthy win rate is usually around 30 to 35%... 25 to somewhere between 25 and 35%.”
Abel: Enterprise win rates above 35% mean prices are too low
“If it's, if you, if your win rate is higher than that, your price is too low.”
Abel: Enterprise leaders buy future opportunity and vision, not problem solving
“You need to vision cast. You need to sell to a gap. Don't sell to a problem. There's a very big difference between problem selling and gap selling. Problem selling is highly specific, more technical than not. And it's the way that every salesperson is going to…”
Abel: Founders outsell professional reps because reps rely on rigid playbooks
“And that's why founders are so good at selling because they, they're, they naturally go to vision selling and vision casting versus a typical trained salesperson is find the problem. You know, ask these questions and it just kills the vibe. It just feels like …”
Abel: Venture-backed startups selling $10K enterprise contracts will fail
“If you're venture backed, you can't be selling 10,000 dollar deals to the enterprise. You'll get killed. Or you've already lost the game because you're playing a small business game in, in the wrong sector.”
Abel: Enterprise customers expect initial software contracts between $75K and $150K
“Enterprise companies are very used to a land. When I say like the first initial contract, this is somewhere between 75 K and a 150 K. Very used to that. In fact, that's probably where you want to start”
Abel: Design partners are the hardest logos to upsell into full rollouts
“Design partners are incredible. They are the hardest logos to upsell, meaning go from design partner to full rollout customer. So like, don't expect these people to be your million dollar pipeline.”
Abel: Most enterprise clients cite Gemini and Copilot over Anthropic
“Most enterprises I'm talking to mention Gemini. Yeah, or Microsoft Copilot. So I don't hear much about Anthropic, to be honest.”
Abel: Land at $100K because $10K deals face identical procurement delays
“So that's why the hundred K is such a safe zone because even for 10 K, you might have to go through procurement. So this is like the surest way to make sure that like you don't listen, I've seen 10 K take nine months to close.”
Abel: Big-company sales VPs struggle in $1M-$10M ARR startups
“A VP of sales at a large company, I would say they're best suited for a large company because one to 10, you're running through walls, right? You have to figure out, you know, you're doing a lot of convincing. You're doing a lot of educating. You're doing a lo…”
Abel: Every enterprise deal I have done closed over text, not email
“Every single enterprise deal I have done,
The deal is done.
The deal is closed and pretty much done through text.
It's not on email anymore.”
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