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Fran Kinniry

Principal & Head of IARC, Vanguard. On 1 show, 1 appearance. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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After joining Vanguard in 1997, Kinniry co-developed the Advisor's Alpha framework and led portfolio construction in the Investment Strategy Group. He later served as Global Head of Private Investments before transitioning to lead the Investment Advisory Research Center in 2022.

1shows
1appearances
29statements
9resolved
7supported
1contradicted
78%fully supported

Everything Fran Kinniry said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

Long-horizon retail retirement savers need private equity the most
“Let's think about a target retirement fund, 50 year horizon, multi-asset class, single nav, rebalanced with return premiums that could be somewhere two to 400 basis points over public markets. I would argue that those investors are the investors who need priva…”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 30:14 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Fired active managers usually outperform the managers hired to replace them
“When you look at higher fire decisions, there's a number of higher fire decisions out there for active managers, where you fire the incumbent because he has a, you know, significantly bad three, five year return. You hire the new manager based on good past per…”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 18:37 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Vanguard chose private equity over hedge funds and liquid alternatives
“We did a ton of research on liquid alternatives, hedge funds, all the different asset classes. We kept coming back to private equity as an area that we felt was enduring, that could improve our client outcomes”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 19:49 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Vanguard's long-term aspiration is democratizing private equity for retail investors
“If you read the press release that we put out, we're starting in the OCIO. We're starting in the QP on the high net worth side, but our long run aspiration is to democratize this asset class.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 29:29 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2026
Vanguard private equity will outperform public equity by 200-500 basis points
“We feel confident that this private equity offer will outperform public equity, whether it's two, three, four, 500 basis points.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 34:52 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Vanguard's active franchise outperformed nearly 90% of peers over 35 years
“And we've been really doing a good job over the last 35 plus years of evaluating and doing due diligence on these managers, which has resulted in Vanguard, its active franchise has outperformed close to 90% of our peers on the active side.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 44:01 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Vanguard estimates total value of financial advice at 300 basis points
“And we've quantified that value at somewhere around 300 basis points.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 15:24 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Investment committees exhibit equal or worse behavioral biases than retail investors
“But we see the same behavior, if not worse behavior in some of the investment committees.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 18:30 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Private equity and hedge funds underperform for non-top-decile endowments
“We all know the Nkubo databases and looking at the largest endowments and foundations versus the mids and the smalls, private equity and hedge funds in general have not worked out really well For those below the top 10% AUM mandates.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 25:04 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Vanguard secures sovereign-scale private equity terms for small investors
“Very much like they would price a sovereign wealth fund, and so we're able to take our thirty million clients at Vanguard and six trillion dollars, and without saying a word, the price comes in at a very reasonable level that we are now getting terms and condi…”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 38:33 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Scale and elite managers give Vanguard an advantage in zero-sum markets
“And to think that Wellington and Bailey Gifford and Harbor Vest are not at a competitive advantage to retail investors, people doing this on their own, smaller active management shops, and then you combine that relative talent with what I would call reasonable…”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 46:29 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Vanguard observes return persistence at the individual manager level in PE
“Most of the studies say, In LBO or in VC, what type of quartile regime switching do you have from first, second, third, fourth quartile, as opposed to just at the manager level? And at the individual manager level, we do see persistence.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 50:05 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Index investing does not set market prices; it only mimics active managers
“Indexing does not set price. So indexing is a mimicking strategy of active managers.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 1:01:13 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Index market share must reach 80-90% before harming market price discovery
“You would have to see indexing get to somewhere of the magnitude of, you could put out a number there, 80, 85, 90%. Before it actually had some type of concern with the market.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 1:02:24 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Contradicted
Most of Vanguard's fixed income assets are actively managed
“Most of our assets on fixed income are actively managed.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 13:17 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
The behavioral gap costs investors about 2% in returns per year
“Investors, timing of their cash flow, in and out, potentially buying near the peak, selling near the bottom. They have this gap, and it's called the behavioral gap, that has averaged about two percent a year.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 16:30 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Vanguard offers counter-cyclical, stabilizing capital to top private equity GPs
“We were very attractive to the top private equity because our cash flow will be contrarian and counter cyclical to their traditional cash flow model. So we are actually a stabilizing force for those private equity managers.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 26:32 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Private credit's hybrid beta creates difficult portfolio asset allocation challenges
“When you start thinking about these hybrid asset classes that have a little equity beta, a little bond beta, it can really cause some challenges to your asset allocation process. Like, where would private credit or high yield sit? Do you break it and say it's …”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 42:52 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Vanguard active equity funds have generated 50 to 100 basis points alpha
“If you look at the alpha that's created on our equity side, It's ranged between 50 and a hundred basis points. We put all of our active funds together.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 44:25 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Committees lacking patience for cyclical underperformance should stick to index funds
“If the committee is going to hire and fire our active managers, if there's not going to be patience and the understanding of alpha cyclicality, they're better off in an index fund.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 58:46 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Even top-performing active managers face three to five-year periods of underperformance
“Because even our active funds, which have done very, very well, go three and five years out of favor, as all active managers do.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 58:58 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Vanguard grew from $300 billion in 1997 to nearly $6 trillion
“So in the last 23 years since I arrived, we had 300 plus billion when I got there. Today, we're close to six trillion dollars.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 6:49 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Vanguard manages $50B in OCIO and nearly $200B in retail advice
“50 plus billion dollars in the OCIO space, close to two hundred billion dollars on the retail advice space.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 9:23 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Vanguard manages nearly $2 trillion in actively managed strategies
“Close to two trillion dollars in active management, both on the money market side, public fixed income side, and public equity side.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 9:34 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)

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