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Ed Zitron

CEO & Founder, EZPR. On 1 show, 1 appearance. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Zitron founded and runs the media relations agency EZPR and has written books on media strategy, including This Is How You Pitch. He critiques the technology industry and generative AI economics through his newsletter Where's Your Ed At and podcast Better Offline.

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Everything Ed Zitron said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

Sam Altman is highly effective at convincing executives to fund AI
“Sam Altman is the single most gifted business idiot whisperer of all time. He convinced, look at what he's done. I think he's reprehensible, a real scumbag, but I cannot ignore the work he's doing.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:25:30 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
OpenAI has no viable path to profitability, Zitron argues
“They also have no path to profitability. They don't have one.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:25 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
OpenAI effectively operates as a Microsoft subsidiary, Zitron argues
“OpenAI is a Microsoft subsidiary. That's what everyone needs to just accept right now, and what's happening in the news, which I imagine we'll talk in a bit.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 15:27 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
VCs rarely inspect accounts or codebases when investing in AI startups
“I had someone tell me, a source tell me, that there are, it's very rare that venture capitalists see the books, the actual accounts, and they almost never see the code base.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 28:32 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI is an asset-light company relying heavily on shared Microsoft IP
“OpenAI is an asset-light business with research and IP that's owned by another company. They don't have much to trade other than their name.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 50:08 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
Perplexity gave $30 million in discounts to reach 50 million users
“Well, first of all, they're an insanely badly run company. They did, like, thirty-five million. They lost, I forget exactly how much they lost, but they did refunds or discounts of, like, thirty million dollars. They're literally giving money away to make peop…”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 54:05 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
OpenAI reports weekly users to mask terrible subscriber conversion rates
“They talk weekly. And the reason is, because if you compared what their real monthly active users would be, five hundred million weekly, so I'm gonna guess seven hundred million monthly? Divided by the 15.5 million customers that pay for it. That's a dog's doo…”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 57:40 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2028
OpenAI will not achieve $100 billion in annual revenue, Zitron predicts
“Even if OpenAI was profitable, okay, they're the biggest AI company, cool. Are they going to a hundred billion a year? Bullshit. No.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:06:00 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
There is no scientific evidence that AGI is computationally possible
“AGI, we do not have evidence it's possible. We don't understand how humans think. How the fuck are we meant to create it in a computer?”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:29:01 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
OpenAI will burn $12B to $13B this year, Zitron projects
“They will burn probably 12, thirteen billion dollars after revenue this year. That's based on projections.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:19 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Microsoft's $13B AI revenue largely comes from OpenAI cloud spend
“The information also reported that Microsoft will only make about thirteen billion dollars, not profit, just revenue, on AI this year. Ten billion of that is OpenAI's Azure cloud spend. Three billion is them selling Copala.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:53 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Amazon is spending $105B in capex for $5B AI revenue
“There's an analyst, I was quoted by Laura Brattner at Yahoo Finance, who said that he only thinks that Amazon is going to make five billion dollars in revenue, again, not profit, this year on AI. They are spending one hundred and five billion dollars in capita…”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 2:21 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Total generative AI industry revenue is only $35B to $40B
“What the current combined revenue of all the generative AI companies is like And that's including the big tech companies. It's about 35, forty billion dollars.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 3:30 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Building a Google-scale search business will cost OpenAI tens of billions
“Making that into a search size business is an entirely different thing and will cost them tens of billions of dollars.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 9:11 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Salesforce expects zero AI revenue growth in 2025 despite agent rebrand
“The information reported a few months ago that Salesforce does not expect any growth from AI this year. That is absolutely bonkers for a company that's rebranded, and I paraphrase here, as an agent first company.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 37:24 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
OpenAI holds no technological advantage over competitors besides scale
“OpenAI isn't ahead of everyone else other than scale.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 38:34 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Partly supported
OpenAI's contractual payments to CoreWeave escalate in October 2025
“OpenAI starts paying Corweave in October, twenty-twenty-five, just as Corweave's second loan, DDT-L-II, starts requiring them to pay probably more than OpenAI will be paying them.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 50:45 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Partly supported
Anthropic lost approximately $5.2 billion in 2024 despite strong API sales
“Anthropic is doing better on API. They're selling more, a larger percentage of their business is API, but they still lost like, 5.2 billion dollars last year.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 58:50 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
OpenAI is directly undercutting Microsoft's enterprise subscription deals
“OpenAI has been undercutting Microsoft in deals, selling their models, and undercutting their enterprise subscription deals.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:11:32 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
OpenAI must convert to for-profit by year-end to keep SoftBank funding
“By the end of the year, OpenAI must convert to a for-profit entity, or SoftBank does not have to give them more than twenty billion dollars total.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:13:52 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Partly supported
The Stargate data center corporate entity hasn't even been formed
“The Stargate entity does not exist. They haven't formed it yet.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 9:44 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
The AI coding assistant total addressable market is $30B to $50B
“I think this is a 30 to fifty billion dollar TAM, total addressable market business. I think that, what's that, the IDE market, development environment, I think that's like a thirteen billion dollar one.”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 22:25 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Salesforce research shows AI agents fail most multi-step processes
“The reason that we keep hearing about agents, but never about what agents can do, is because the most common feature of agents is that they fail. There was a Salesforce paper that came out fairly recently that said, I think that they just categorically break d…”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 29:38 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI's o3 model failed to calculate a basic spatial measurement
“I tried O-three out the other day. Yeah. I took a photo of a thing I had hung up, And I said, how much space from the bottom of that photo, of that picture, the poster, to the floor? It took four minutes. It wrote multiple Python scripts to give me the wrong a…”
Ed Zitron Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 31:16 Are AI's Economics Unsustainable? — With Ed Zitron

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