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Gilbert: Supercar Speed Is Irrelevant Like Watch Accuracy Post-Quartz
“I think the point I keep kicking around is much like the quartz crisis in the world of watches, speed is no longer relevant. I mean, the F-Eighty goes zero to 60 in 2.2 seconds. This is the supercar. This is the three to five million dollar car. The Tesla Mode…”
Ferrari Is Arguably the Only Legitimate Luxury Brand Founded Post-1950
“I think you could maybe even argue they are the only legitimate luxury brand established in the second half of the 20th century.”
Ferrari Refused Long-Term Battery Support for the Hybrid LaFerrari
“Ferrari has already said that the technology is old, all the plug-in stuff, we don't want to be any part of the LaFerrari.”
Montezemolo: Sustained racing losses erode Ferrari's luxury brand myth
“There is not a direct correlation between Ferrari victories on the track and the number of cars that you can sell, but If for many years you do not win, it means that you do not add wood to the fire of the myth. The myth of Ferrari is based on competition on c…”
Gilbert: Ferrari Combines Hermès Scarcity with Manchester United Global Fandom
“Ferrari is Hermes and Manchester United smashed together.”
Gilbert: Marrying a luxury brand with a sports team is a cheat code
“If you can marry a luxury brand with a sports team, it is a business cheat code.”
Gilbert: Ferrari is the only ultra-luxury brand with mass cultural awareness
“So I would say Ferrari is the only ultra luxury brand that has reached mass cultural awareness.”
Gilbert: Ferrari Icona and Supercar buyers own 10+ new Ferraris
“Clients who were invited to the supercar or the Icona class These people own at least 10 new Ferraris, maybe 20 plus Ferraris in a garage. These people are tens of millions of dollars deep into buying Ferraris.”
Rosenthal: Lamborghini Miura was a better car than Ferrari's contemporary offerings
“Lamborghini had just launched the Mira, the Lamborghini Mira at this point in time, which was a truly excellent car. Like, a better Ferrari than a Ferrari at the time.”
Enzo Ferrari Hated His Customers and Sold Road Cars to Fund Racing
“Whereas Enzo very famously, he just wanted to race and he hated his customers, his road car customers deeply. It wasn't his thing. He just wanted to race. He only sold road cars to kind of finance racing.”
Gilbert: Mass-market scale prevents automakers from copying Ferrari's strategy
“The thing that makes you successful at scale prevents you from being able to execute Ferrari's strategy.”
Rosenthal: Overproducing road cars violates core luxury strategy
“Fiat's attempt, their best solution to fixing the problem of the road car business is to produce more road cars, which is the cardinal sin of luxury strategy management.”
Gilbert: Wealthy buyers are drawn to aloof, racing-obsessed artisan creators
“They love that cold shoulder of a artist creating the car mysteriously, In some small town in Italy who's just interested in racing. He's not interested in mass market cars. You're just lucky to get one of these racing cars, and he couldn't even care less abou…”
Ferrari allocates 80% of newly produced cars to existing owners
“Of the very few cars that they do make, this is my favorite one, David, about 80% of them are earmarked specifically for people who already own a Ferrari. So that means there's less than 3000 new customers buying Ferraris in any given year.”
Ferrari's First EV Was Designed with Jony Ive's Firm LoveFrom
“Ferrari's first electric vehicle designed In collaboration with love from Johnny Ive and Mark Newsome in San Francisco.”
Gilbert: Ferrari suffered from a conglomerate discount until spun out of Fiat
“Ferrari was not appreciated by investors when it was nestled inside of fiat for the real gem that it was. And as a publicly traded company on its own reporting its own financials, people piled in.”
Gilbert: Ferrari averages over $170,000 profit per car
“The profit per car average exceeded 170,000 dollars. That is more than the entire retail price of your average luxury sedan, and even Porsche would need to sell six cars to equal the profit dollars that come from a single average Ferrari.”
Gilbert: Building an automotive luxury brand requires motorsport heritage
“If you're gonna build a luxury brand, you need time and you need heritage where you tie it to an important emotional thing that people lust for connection over. And in cars, it's racing. I'm sorry. It's just, it's the obvious thing to tie the emotion of your b…”
Ferrari is worth more than Ford, VW, Stellantis, and Mercedes
“Ford, here's another good one, makes a 160 times the number of cars that Ferrari does, yet Ferrari Has a higher market capitalization. They're worth more than the Ford Motor Company, and Volkswagen, and Honda, and Stellantis, and Mercedes-Benz.”
Ferrari centrally controls vehicle allocations directly rather than through dealers
“Now the allocation is done centrally by Ferrari, and the dealerships really serve more as distribution, operations, and service. And I've been thinking about it less as a dealer network, and more as a franchised service and delivery infrastructure, with Ferrar…”
Rosenthal: No Ferrari model shares an automotive platform with other cars
“No Ferrari shares a platform with any other car.”
Ferrari guides to 5% annual revenue growth over next five years
“Management said in their October, 20, 25 investor day that the era of double digit revenue growth is over. And over the next five years, they expect revenue to grow just five percent each year.”
Gilbert: Ferrari maximizes R&D ROI by sharing internals across distinct models
“And the really impressive thing about Ferrari is the cars are just different enough where they deserve different names. But a lot of the R&D and the components are carried over. When you look at the internals from some of these cars to the next generation that…”
Gilbert: Nearly 300,000 of 330,000 Total Ferraris Ever Produced Are Still Drivable
“There have been 330,000 Ferraris ever made, and almost 300,000 of them are drivable.”
Gilbert quotes Enzo Ferrari: Always deliver one car less than demand
“Ferrari will always deliver one car less than the market demand.”
Rosenthal: Slower growth is healthy for Ferrari's luxury brand positioning
“Like they've expanded the pyramid so much in recent years that a period of slower growth probably is the right thing to do in terms of luxury strategy management here.”
Gilbert: Luxury brands sell functional alibis to rationalize social signaling
“Back on our Rolex episode, we threw out the idea of a functional alibi, a reason you could claim that you need such a watch. For Ferrari, they have lots of incredible alibis. Most people do not experience the thing that you just described, feeling maximally al…”
Gilbert: Ferrari generated $8.2B revenue and 38.8% EBITDA margin in 2025
“They did 8.2 billion dollars in revenue in 2025. In terms of profits, they did 3.2 billion in EBITDA. So they've got a 38.8% EBITDA margin.”
Ferrari sells retired F1 racing cars directly to top clients
“The most extreme clients can buy a former F-one car. Like an actual F-one car that was raced in prior seasons.”
Ben Gilbert: Ferrari has the highest profit margins in the auto industry
“Ferrari makes all of their cars, mostly by hand, inefficiently, and one-off in a single town, Marinello, Italy. And they have the highest margins in the entire auto industry.”
Rolex operates its business model like Porsche, not Louis Vuitton
“My best comparison that I think I came up with is Rolex is Porsche. And I know there are different categories of price, but, like, cars are expensive things, and you do need one anyway. It's real scale manufacturing with a high-quality engineered product with …”
Ferrari Cannot Maintain Its Profit Margins at Porsche's Volume
“Ferrari couldn't make the number of cars that Porsche does and maintain those margins, so that's not really a fair, like, direct comparison in terms of who their competitor is.”
Gross Margins Across Automakers: BMW 17%, Porsche 29%, Ferrari 48%
“BMW, as we mentioned, 10 times more units of BMW sold than Porsches are down at 17%. In terms of gross margin, so they really aren't marking up much above their cost of goods in order to ship those cars. Mercedes a little bit better at 23%. Porsche is at 29%, …”
Porsche Will Weather Downturns Better Than BMW but Worse Than Ferrari
“Like, I think they'll fare better than Mercedes and BMW in a downturn, and, like, way worse than Ferrari.”
Gilbert: Proposed 1963 Ford-Ferrari deal split road cars and racing operations
“There are two companies that are formed. One is called Ford Ferrari. It is 90% owned by Ford, and it would make road cars. There's a second called Ferrari Ford that's 90% owned by Ferrari. That's the racing team.”
Gilbert: Ferrari average selling price rose to approximately $500,000
“The average selling price of a Ferrari is about 500,000 dollars, up from 350,000 dollars in 2022.”
Rosenthal: Ferrari Won 19 F1 Titles Under Montezemolo, Surpassing Enzo
“In total, under Montezemolo's tenure, Ferrari wins 19 Drivers' and Constructors' Championships, which is more than Enzo.”
Gilbert: Ford negotiated Ferrari purchase price down from $18M to $10M
“The asking price was originally eighteen million, but somehow Ford manages to easily negotiate it down to ten million.”
Gilbert: Ferrari builds undisclosed bespoke one-off cars for VIPs
“There are models that are literally called one-off. So they will make you, and not just like you can change the seat color, they will make you a custom car with a custom body style for very, very, very special VIP customers, and they never disclose them.”
Gilbert: Luxury brands must always offer tiers to graduate toward
“In luxury, you never want a customer to feel like they've done it all. You want a place for them to graduate to.”
Gilbert: China accounts for 7% of Ferrari's sales, down from 10%
“China is only seven percent of Ferrari's sales, down from 10% at its peak.”
Gilbert: Special Series cars account for 10% of Ferrari shipments
“Now, 10% are what they call the special series. These will run you between 500,000 and a million, again, before customization.”
Montezemolo cut Ferrari car production nearly in half by 1993
“In 1991, Ferrari had made 4500 cars, which is just this giant inflation. By 1993, just two years later, Luca brought this down to 2300. So cut it almost in half in those two years.”
Gilbert: Ferrari has held zero unsold vehicle inventory since 1994
“So after 1994, Ferrari does not have a stock of cars. They're not just sitting there at dealerships. They're not just sitting there at the factory. They don't manufacture them and then find buyers. It's the other way around. So for every single car, they only …”
Gilbert: Fiat's 1988 purchase valued Ferrari at $192M
“If you do the exchange rate at that time, it is seventy seven million dollars, which valued the company at a hundred and ninety two million dollars. In 1988.”
Ferrari produces approximately 14,000 cars per year
“Ferrari ships very, very few cars, around 14,000 per year.”
Rosenthal: The Agnelli family controls both Stellantis and Ferrari
“The family behind it, the Agnellis, are the wealthiest and most important industrialists basically in the history of Italy, and today they own and control both Stellantis, which is the merged result of Fiat, Chrysler, and Peugeot, and they also own and control…”