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Zuckerberg Negotiated Facebook's $1B Instagram Acquisition Over a Single Weekend
“Not to mention, on top of it all, we're not gonna go into it here because we had a whole episode on Facebook and Instagram, but this was done over two days, over the course of a weekend. Mark didn't do a whole lot of socializing this before pulling the trigger…”
Zuckerberg Pitched Steve Jobs on Integrating Facebook's Platform Directly Into iOS
“The next year, in 2008, when the iPhone SDK was launching and people were building apps, Mark and Facebook actually go to Apple and meet with Steve, and they pitch Steve on exactly what you were just talking about, Ben. Like, hey, how about you let us bring ou…”
Gilbert: Network effects lack the durability of hardware and OS platforms
“A network effect is good, but it's not as good as that incredible platform durability.”
Excluding China, Less Than Six Percent of Internet Users Escape Meta
“That leaves about four hundred and fifty million people, or six percent of the human population, Who have access to the internet, but are not yet meta monthly actives. That doesn't mean they're not meta users. That just means they weren't monthly active users …”
Gilbert: Facebook Platform Failed Because It Was Too Distant from Hardware
“The reason why we aren't all using rich Facebook apps all the time today and think of it as the default platform, it was just too many layers of abstraction away from the hardware to win.”
Zuckerberg Rejected Yahoo Acquisition After Terry Semel Lowered $1B Offer
“So Mark actually agrees to the Yahoo deal. Billion dollars. It's gonna be all in stock. Yahoo's gonna buy the company. In the interim between when they shake hands on the deal and while the docs are being drafted, Yahoo announces their quarterly earnings, and …”
Rosenthal: Great companies retain homegrown or long-tenured senior executives
“This is almost always true, really is true in every great company that I can think of. The core senior most executive team are all people who came up in the company Or have been there for a very, very long time. It's not a whole bunch of mercenaries there at t…”
Gilbert: TikTok is the most significant competitor Facebook has ever faced
“That created a competitor for Facebook that is more significant than anything they've ever faced.”
Gilbert: Zuckerberg's post-2016 leadership mirrors Gates staying through DOJ antitrust fallout
“Zuck, after all the 2016 election fallout, and the shift in public perception, and having to do all this testifying, Is like watching an alternate future for Microsoft where Bill Gates had decided to stay at the helm instead of leaving after the DOJ case.”
Facebook Was the First Post-Dot-Com Deal With Founder Control
“It was the very first post.com institutional venture capital deal where the founder maintained control.”
Gilbert: No Entity in History Has Addressed as Much of Humanity as Meta
“So no government, tech company, utility, et cetera, has ever addressed so much of the world.”
TikTok Operates as Media, Rendering an Authenticated Social Graph Irrelevant
“TikTok and ByteDance, its parent company, as you point out, Ben, was so completely orthogonal to everything that Facebook had learned over the past 15 years. Because, yes, number one, most importantly, it's not social media. It's media. There's no social. And …”
Facebook Shifted From Product Innovator to Shameless Feature Copier
“For the first six or seven years of its life, Facebook was a change maker, defining what social networking was, and then after that, it became a change taker, and we'll talk about this when it happens, but like, again, the mental flexibility of Mark and the co…”
Meta Built a Hyperscaler-Sized Data Center Footprint Exclusively for Internal Use
“They now last year spent twenty-eight billion dollars in capex, which you should mostly read as data centers. They operate a Hyper-scaler-sized data center footprint, give or take. You know, you think AWS, Azure, Microsoft, and Google Cloud. Meta is the fourth…”
Matching iPhone Cash Flows Would Leave Reality Labs Net Negative Until 2035
“Well, I did that napkin math, and if twenty-twenty-four, This year was Apple's 2007, so you just take all the iPhone's cash flows and you start the clock right now. Meta's cumulative cash flows from Reality Labs would be net negative until at least 2035.”
Zuckerberg: Meta's shipping philosophy is the opposite of Apple's long-cycle polish
“I think in a lot of ways we're like the opposite of Apple, and clearly their stuff has worked really well too, right? But I mean, they take this approach, it's like, we're gonna take a, like, a long time, we're gonna polish it, we're gonna put it out and maybe…”
Zuckerberg: Threads could reach one billion users within a few years
“Hopefully in the next few years, five with threads, if that continues scaling.”
Zuckerberg: If Meta learns and iterates faster than competitors, it will win
“So like I define our strategies. We can learn faster than every other company. We're going to win. We're going to build a better product than everyone else because we're going to get it out first or early. We're going to have a good feedback loop. We're gonna …”
Daniel Ek: Mark Zuckerberg is the best learner I have ever seen
“Specifically from him you know, he's the, probably the best learner I've ever seen. You know, you can have a conversation with him about a topic, he may not know very much about it, and then the next time, he would know more than, I would say, most experts abo…”
Zuckerberg: Meta open-sourced infrastructure because Google already held proprietary compute advantage
“Google was the first of the great companies that built this distributed computing infrastructure. So they came first. They were like, all right, let's keep this proprietary because it's a big advantage for us. And then we're like, all right, we need that too. …”
Zuckerberg: Prioritizing praise over rapid shipping wastes critical product learning time
“I do just think that, like, you want to really have a culture that values shipping and getting things out and getting feedback more than needing always to get great positive accolades from people when you put stuff out. Because I think, like, if you want to wa…”
Zuckerberg: Adding features during platform rewrites risks projects never finishing
“We basically took, I think it must have been like a year or something, we were just like, look, we're gonna pause feature development of the company, because it's hard enough to do a rewrite, right? So if you look at, like, the history of the tech industry, th…”
Zuckerberg: Facebook board tried firing him over $1B Yahoo offer
“In 2006, Yahoo wanted to buy the company for a billion dollars, and everyone on our management team wanted to sell it, and the board tried to fire me, and everyone, and basically in the next year, everyone else on the management team left because they, I hadn'…”
Zuckerberg: Facebook paused feature development for a year during mobile rewrite
“We basically took, I think it must have been like a year or something, we were just like, look, we're gonna pause feature development of the company, Because it's hard enough to do a rewrite, right? So if you look at, like, the history of the tech industry, th…”
Zuckerberg: Threads could reach one billion users in a few years
“Hopefully in the next few years, five with threads, if that continues scaling”
Zuckerberg: Designing custom clothes helps him prepare for Meta's wearable hardware
“I started working with people to design some of my own clothes. And so I figured, you know, look, we're gonna design eyewear, we're gonna design other stuff that people wear, let's get good at this.”
Robbins: Tech giants fail in gaming because Valley executives aren't gamers
“And a lot of the executives in the Valley, they're just not gamers. And they're like, oh, we can maybe launch a game thing, but they're sort of dipping their foot in the water versus actually like really committed to it.”
Thompson: Meta's targeted ads are essential for niche online businesses
“And actually one of the reasons I actually am in general favorable towards meta is I think they're an essential component in the broader ecosystem of niche businesses, because if the entire world is your audience, how does the world find out about you? I'm luc…”
Calacanis: Chamath Palihapitiya invented 'growth hacking' at Facebook
“There is no equivalent of growth. That was, the idea of growth hacking didn't exist as a term until Chamath did what he did.”
Friendster CEO Tim Koogle blocked Benchmark from investing in Facebook's Series A
“Specifically what happened was Benchmark had invested in Friendster, and so was conflicted out. Now you could argue that was an unavoidable mistake, you know, but like, boy does that hurt. And supposedly, I think it was Bob Kegel who was on the board of Friend…”
Peter Fenton walked away from Accel's Facebook fund carry to join Benchmark
“He had GP economics, even if they were baby GP economics, in the Facebook fund. And he's walking away from that to join Benchmark.”
Rosenthal: Google and Meta depend fundamentally on Nvidia
“This is Google and Facebook and a whole list of other companies on the consumer side, and they're all dependent on NVIDIA.”
Gerstner: The belief that companies cannot innovate in public markets is nonsense
“This idea that you can't innovate in the public markets is nonsense, right? Jeff Bezos innovated plenty in the public markets, Facebook in the public markets. You know, look at what Marc Benioff has done in the public markets. And so I think that that the publ…”
Gilbert: Facebook buying Instagram and WhatsApp mirrors the Cleveland Massacre
“Facebook buying Instagram and WhatsApp is a lot like Standard Oil's Cleveland Massacre and you know, the subsequent roll-up of all these other refiners elsewhere.”
Rosenthal: Facebook leadership repeated Standard Oil's mistake responding to press scrutiny
“And I think about not all the big tech companies, but, again, to pick on Facebook, like, this really seems to, on the outside, to be the case with Facebook right now and, like, the Facebook files and everything going on with the Wall Street Journal, like, it r…”
Complete ownership enables suboptimizing short-term results for long-term horizons
“Complete ownership, or at least board control in Meta's case, is freedom. You can do things like invest for 10 years from now when it's gonna be a super lumpy period between now and 10 years from now. If you believe in the long-term vision, you can suboptimize…”
Ten Percent of Facebook Users Joined a Group Protesting News Feed
“10% of the entire global user base signs up for a group, a Facebook group called Students Against Facebook News Feed.”
Eduardo Saverin's Ownership Dropped from 33 Percent to Two Percent
“That Eduardo Saverin goes from owning a third of this Florida-based LLC to something like two percent of this C-Corp that is a Delaware C-Corp based in California that goes on to become, or is, Facebook Inc.”
Gilbert: Meta CFO Projected $10 Billion Impact From Apple's ATT in 2022
“The CFO kind of casually says in a response to someone, oh, we think that the, Impact from ATT to our ad business will end up costing us on the order of ten billion dollars for twenty-twenty-two.”
Gilbert: In September 2005, Facebook held one-third of US college students at 70% DAU
“By September of o' five, they were at five million users. That was 10 X their user base just a year ago in September of o' four, and almost a third of all U.S. College students Were included in that five million. So by September of oh five, they had a third of…”
Rosenthal: Facebook opening registration created room for Instagram and Snapchat
“Which ultimately would be a problem because that's what created room for Instagram, for Snapchat, et cetera.”
Rosenthal: Facebook skipped the 'startup phase' to build a global empire directly
“It's quite ironic that Facebook became the prototypical startup, given that the goal was never to be a startup. The goal was first to be a project, and then to build, like, a very profitable business. The largest empire in the world. Yes. There was no in-betwe…”
Gilbert: Facebook hit 8.3M users and $1M monthly revenue by October 2005
“At this period of time, October of oh five, They were up to 8.3 million users. They were the 10th most visited site on the Internet. But the important part is they were doing a million dollars a month in revenue.”
Benchmark Passed on Facebook Due to a Conflict With Friendster
“Which is what tied their hands and why they could not pursue an investment in Facebook.”
Facebook Does Not Sell User Data, It Sells Access to Targeting
“In part, you know, you can see why Facebook massively prefers the ad based business model of, we never even expose any information to you, advertiser. You target, and then we just deliver the ads. You never get to know anything about who the users are on our p…”
Microsoft's $240M Facebook Stake Became Worth $8 Billion Post-IPO
“That two hundred and forty million dollar investment, by the time they start selling it down years after Facebook is public, ends up being worth eight billion dollars.”
Meta Requires Tight Engineering Coupling Unlike Amazon's Decoupled API Interfaces
“Amazon uses interface so teams don't have to talk to each other. At Meta, they require incredibly tight communication. It's a very different organizational philosophy where they're like, no, no, no, not only do we not have external customers, we want this insa…”
Gilbert: Microsoft is the true strategic and operational comparison for Meta
“The real comp for this company is Microsoft. That was actually my next one. They do iterative product development. They put the first version out just to kind of get feedback and see how they need to rev it and get better for the future. The early days are cha…”