Sep 22, 2021 · 2h 36m · acquired

Standard Oil Part I · Acquired

David Rosenthal · 1h 24m spoken Ben Gilbert · 53m spoken Waseem Daher · 1m spoken
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In this deep dive, Acquired hosts Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal explore the rise of John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil, examining how operational discipline, freight collusion, and unprecedented scale economies built America's most formidable industrial monopoly.

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Ben and David as informed peer 6.3 Guest teaching 0.7 Guest disagreement 0.0 Ben and David pushing back 1.0
05100:0020:0040:001:00:001:20:001:40:002:00:002:20:006:00–8:45 · Ben and David as informed peer 5/10 Show Disclaimer and Ron Chernow's Titan Context Ben and David introduce the historical scope of the episode and cite Ron Chernow's Titan biography as the foundational source.8:46–19:10 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 The Rockefeller Lineage and 'Devil Bill' Background David details John D. Rockefeller's upbringing, contrasting 'Devil Bill' Rockefeller's con artistry with the strict Baptist morality of Eliza Davison, while Ben interjects with context on Rockefeller's disdain for ostentatious wealth.19:12–29:35 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 Move to Ohio, Bookkeeping, and Clark & Rockefeller The hosts detail Rockefeller's move to Cleveland, his legendary reverence for 'Job Day' at Hewitt & Tuttle, and the launch of Clark & Rockefeller.29:36–41:15 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 Civil War Commodity Boom and the Titusville Discovery The discussion covers the Civil War commodity boom, the Drake oil discovery in Titusville, and the hazardous initial refining processes.41:17–59:44 · Ben and David as informed peer 7/10 Refinery Efficiency, Clark Buyout, and Standard Works Ben and David walk through the operational optimization of Excelsior Works, the auction buyout of Maurice Clark, and extreme vertical integration.59:45–1:18:09 · Ben and David as informed peer 7/10 Flagler Partnership, Railroad Deals, and Trust Structuring David and Ben discuss Flagler's ruthless dealmaking, the Lakeshore railroad rebate agreement, and the legal innovation of the Standard Oil Trust.1:18:09–1:32:42 · Ben and David as informed peer 7/10 Sponsor Spotlight: PitchBook Private Market Intelligence After the sponsor break, the hosts dissect the South Improvement Company scheme and the subsequent rapid takeover known as the Cleveland Massacre.1:32:45–1:46:57 · Ben and David as informed peer 7/10 Weaponizing Railcars, Crushing Pipelines, and Retail Hegemony David recounts how Standard Oil leveraged tank car ownership, crushed the Tidewater pipeline by undercutting rail freight rates, and strong-armed retail grocers.1:47:01–1:56:15 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 26 Broadway, Sherman Antitrust Act, and Rockefeller Retirement The hosts discuss the establishment of 26 Broadway, the passage of the vague Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, and Rockefeller's nominal retirement.1:56:16–2:08:26 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 Sponsor Spotlight: NordVPN Bootstrapped Cybersecurity Network Following the NordVPN read, Ben and David analyze the tension between antitrust sentiment, consumer welfare, and Rockefeller's moral defense of monopoly.2:08:27–2:12:06 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 Power Dynamics: Analyzing Standard Oil through 7 Powers The co-hosts evaluate Standard Oil across Hamilton Helmer's 7 Powers framework, debating whether counter-positioning and network economies truly applied.2:12:06–2:16:41 · Ben and David as informed peer 7/10 Playbook: Scale Economies as the Original Venture Model Ben draws parallels between Standard Oil's scale economies and modern venture capital-backed tech monopolies such as TSMC.2:16:42–2:31:00 · Ben and David as informed peer 6/10 Grading Standard Oil: Value Creation and Historical Impact Ben and David grade Standard Oil's net societal value, debating counterfactual scenarios regarding whether an un-monopolized industry would have reached similar efficiency.6:00–8:45 · Guest teaching 0/10 Show Disclaimer and Ron Chernow's Titan Context Ben and David introduce the historical scope of the episode and cite Ron Chernow's Titan biography as the foundational source.8:46–19:10 · Guest teaching 1/10 The Rockefeller Lineage and 'Devil Bill' Background David details John D. Rockefeller's upbringing, contrasting 'Devil Bill' Rockefeller's con artistry with the strict Baptist morality of Eliza Davison, while Ben interjects with context on Rockefeller's disdain for ostentatious wealth.19:12–29:35 · Guest teaching 0/10 Move to Ohio, Bookkeeping, and Clark & Rockefeller The hosts detail Rockefeller's move to Cleveland, his legendary reverence for 'Job Day' at Hewitt & Tuttle, and the launch of Clark & Rockefeller.29:36–41:15 · Guest teaching 1/10 Civil War Commodity Boom and the Titusville Discovery The discussion covers the Civil War commodity boom, the Drake oil discovery in Titusville, and the hazardous initial refining processes.41:17–59:44 · Guest teaching 1/10 Refinery Efficiency, Clark Buyout, and Standard Works Ben and David walk through the operational optimization of Excelsior Works, the auction buyout of Maurice Clark, and extreme vertical integration.59:45–1:18:09 · Guest teaching 1/10 Flagler Partnership, Railroad Deals, and Trust Structuring David and Ben discuss Flagler's ruthless dealmaking, the Lakeshore railroad rebate agreement, and the legal innovation of the Standard Oil Trust.1:18:09–1:32:42 · Guest teaching 1/10 Sponsor Spotlight: PitchBook Private Market Intelligence After the sponsor break, the hosts dissect the South Improvement Company scheme and the subsequent rapid takeover known as the Cleveland Massacre.1:32:45–1:46:57 · Guest teaching 1/10 Weaponizing Railcars, Crushing Pipelines, and Retail Hegemony David recounts how Standard Oil leveraged tank car ownership, crushed the Tidewater pipeline by undercutting rail freight rates, and strong-armed retail grocers.1:47:01–1:56:15 · Guest teaching 0/10 26 Broadway, Sherman Antitrust Act, and Rockefeller Retirement The hosts discuss the establishment of 26 Broadway, the passage of the vague Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, and Rockefeller's nominal retirement.1:56:16–2:08:26 · Guest teaching 1/10 Sponsor Spotlight: NordVPN Bootstrapped Cybersecurity Network Following the NordVPN read, Ben and David analyze the tension between antitrust sentiment, consumer welfare, and Rockefeller's moral defense of monopoly.2:08:27–2:12:06 · Guest teaching 1/10 Power Dynamics: Analyzing Standard Oil through 7 Powers The co-hosts evaluate Standard Oil across Hamilton Helmer's 7 Powers framework, debating whether counter-positioning and network economies truly applied.2:12:06–2:16:41 · Guest teaching 0/10 Playbook: Scale Economies as the Original Venture Model Ben draws parallels between Standard Oil's scale economies and modern venture capital-backed tech monopolies such as TSMC.2:16:42–2:31:00 · Guest teaching 1/10 Grading Standard Oil: Value Creation and Historical Impact Ben and David grade Standard Oil's net societal value, debating counterfactual scenarios regarding whether an un-monopolized industry would have reached similar efficiency.6:00–8:45 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Show Disclaimer and Ron Chernow's Titan Context Ben and David introduce the historical scope of the episode and cite Ron Chernow's Titan biography as the foundational source.8:46–19:10 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Rockefeller Lineage and 'Devil Bill' Background David details John D. Rockefeller's upbringing, contrasting 'Devil Bill' Rockefeller's con artistry with the strict Baptist morality of Eliza Davison, while Ben interjects with context on Rockefeller's disdain for ostentatious wealth.19:12–29:35 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Move to Ohio, Bookkeeping, and Clark & Rockefeller The hosts detail Rockefeller's move to Cleveland, his legendary reverence for 'Job Day' at Hewitt & Tuttle, and the launch of Clark & Rockefeller.29:36–41:15 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Civil War Commodity Boom and the Titusville Discovery The discussion covers the Civil War commodity boom, the Drake oil discovery in Titusville, and the hazardous initial refining processes.41:17–59:44 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Refinery Efficiency, Clark Buyout, and Standard Works Ben and David walk through the operational optimization of Excelsior Works, the auction buyout of Maurice Clark, and extreme vertical integration.59:45–1:18:09 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Flagler Partnership, Railroad Deals, and Trust Structuring David and Ben discuss Flagler's ruthless dealmaking, the Lakeshore railroad rebate agreement, and the legal innovation of the Standard Oil Trust.1:18:09–1:32:42 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Sponsor Spotlight: PitchBook Private Market Intelligence After the sponsor break, the hosts dissect the South Improvement Company scheme and the subsequent rapid takeover known as the Cleveland Massacre.1:32:45–1:46:57 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Weaponizing Railcars, Crushing Pipelines, and Retail Hegemony David recounts how Standard Oil leveraged tank car ownership, crushed the Tidewater pipeline by undercutting rail freight rates, and strong-armed retail grocers.1:47:01–1:56:15 · Guest disagreement 0/10 26 Broadway, Sherman Antitrust Act, and Rockefeller Retirement The hosts discuss the establishment of 26 Broadway, the passage of the vague Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, and Rockefeller's nominal retirement.1:56:16–2:08:26 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Sponsor Spotlight: NordVPN Bootstrapped Cybersecurity Network Following the NordVPN read, Ben and David analyze the tension between antitrust sentiment, consumer welfare, and Rockefeller's moral defense of monopoly.2:08:27–2:12:06 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Power Dynamics: Analyzing Standard Oil through 7 Powers The co-hosts evaluate Standard Oil across Hamilton Helmer's 7 Powers framework, debating whether counter-positioning and network economies truly applied.2:12:06–2:16:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Playbook: Scale Economies as the Original Venture Model Ben draws parallels between Standard Oil's scale economies and modern venture capital-backed tech monopolies such as TSMC.2:16:42–2:31:00 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Grading Standard Oil: Value Creation and Historical Impact Ben and David grade Standard Oil's net societal value, debating counterfactual scenarios regarding whether an un-monopolized industry would have reached similar efficiency.6:00–8:45 · Ben and David pushing back 0/10 Show Disclaimer and Ron Chernow's Titan Context Ben and David introduce the historical scope of the episode and cite Ron Chernow's Titan biography as the foundational source.8:46–19:10 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 The Rockefeller Lineage and 'Devil Bill' Background David details John D. Rockefeller's upbringing, contrasting 'Devil Bill' Rockefeller's con artistry with the strict Baptist morality of Eliza Davison, while Ben interjects with context on Rockefeller's disdain for ostentatious wealth.19:12–29:35 · Ben and David pushing back 0/10 Move to Ohio, Bookkeeping, and Clark & Rockefeller The hosts detail Rockefeller's move to Cleveland, his legendary reverence for 'Job Day' at Hewitt & Tuttle, and the launch of Clark & Rockefeller.29:36–41:15 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Civil War Commodity Boom and the Titusville Discovery The discussion covers the Civil War commodity boom, the Drake oil discovery in Titusville, and the hazardous initial refining processes.41:17–59:44 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Refinery Efficiency, Clark Buyout, and Standard Works Ben and David walk through the operational optimization of Excelsior Works, the auction buyout of Maurice Clark, and extreme vertical integration.59:45–1:18:09 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Flagler Partnership, Railroad Deals, and Trust Structuring David and Ben discuss Flagler's ruthless dealmaking, the Lakeshore railroad rebate agreement, and the legal innovation of the Standard Oil Trust.1:18:09–1:32:42 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Sponsor Spotlight: PitchBook Private Market Intelligence After the sponsor break, the hosts dissect the South Improvement Company scheme and the subsequent rapid takeover known as the Cleveland Massacre.1:32:45–1:46:57 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Weaponizing Railcars, Crushing Pipelines, and Retail Hegemony David recounts how Standard Oil leveraged tank car ownership, crushed the Tidewater pipeline by undercutting rail freight rates, and strong-armed retail grocers.1:47:01–1:56:15 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 26 Broadway, Sherman Antitrust Act, and Rockefeller Retirement The hosts discuss the establishment of 26 Broadway, the passage of the vague Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, and Rockefeller's nominal retirement.1:56:16–2:08:26 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Sponsor Spotlight: NordVPN Bootstrapped Cybersecurity Network Following the NordVPN read, Ben and David analyze the tension between antitrust sentiment, consumer welfare, and Rockefeller's moral defense of monopoly.2:08:27–2:12:06 · Ben and David pushing back 2/10 Power Dynamics: Analyzing Standard Oil through 7 Powers The co-hosts evaluate Standard Oil across Hamilton Helmer's 7 Powers framework, debating whether counter-positioning and network economies truly applied.2:12:06–2:16:41 · Ben and David pushing back 1/10 Playbook: Scale Economies as the Original Venture Model Ben draws parallels between Standard Oil's scale economies and modern venture capital-backed tech monopolies such as TSMC.2:16:42–2:31:00 · Ben and David pushing back 2/10 Grading Standard Oil: Value Creation and Historical Impact Ben and David grade Standard Oil's net societal value, debating counterfactual scenarios regarding whether an un-monopolized industry would have reached similar efficiency.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 2:28:40 Disagreement on counterfactual grading

David pushes back on Ben's C-grade evaluation by invoking a Peter Thiel-style 'zero to one' argument that Rockefeller's unique execution was necessary for modern industrial development.

Hardest push from Ben and David ▶ 2:10:35 Ben challenges network economies application

Ben pushes back on David's assertion that retail distribution represented network effects, clarifying that scale economies drove consumer benefit rather than inter-consumer network dynamics.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 32:28 Highlighting Titusville as global oil epicenter

David surprises the audience and context by detailing how western Pennsylvania was the unrivaled epicenter of global crude production for decades.

Ben and David hold their own ▶ 2:22:40 Calculating Standard Oil earnings as percentage of GDP

Ben demonstrates analytical rigor by recontextualizing Standard Oil's 1900 earnings relative to total US GDP rather than using standard inflation adjustment.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicBen and David as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementBen and David pushing backWhy
Show Disclaimer and Ron Chernow's Titan Context 5000 Ben and David introduce the historical scope of the episode and cite Ron Chernow's Titan biography as the foundational source.
The Rockefeller Lineage and 'Devil Bill' Background 6101 David details John D. Rockefeller's upbringing, contrasting 'Devil Bill' Rockefeller's con artistry with the strict Baptist morality of Eliza Davison, while Ben interjects with context on Rockefeller's disdain for ostentatious wealth.
Move to Ohio, Bookkeeping, and Clark & Rockefeller 6000 The hosts detail Rockefeller's move to Cleveland, his legendary reverence for 'Job Day' at Hewitt & Tuttle, and the launch of Clark & Rockefeller.
Civil War Commodity Boom and the Titusville Discovery 6101 The discussion covers the Civil War commodity boom, the Drake oil discovery in Titusville, and the hazardous initial refining processes.
Refinery Efficiency, Clark Buyout, and Standard Works 7101 Ben and David walk through the operational optimization of Excelsior Works, the auction buyout of Maurice Clark, and extreme vertical integration.
Flagler Partnership, Railroad Deals, and Trust Structuring 7101 David and Ben discuss Flagler's ruthless dealmaking, the Lakeshore railroad rebate agreement, and the legal innovation of the Standard Oil Trust.
Sponsor Spotlight: PitchBook Private Market Intelligence 7101 After the sponsor break, the hosts dissect the South Improvement Company scheme and the subsequent rapid takeover known as the Cleveland Massacre.
Weaponizing Railcars, Crushing Pipelines, and Retail Hegemony 7101 David recounts how Standard Oil leveraged tank car ownership, crushed the Tidewater pipeline by undercutting rail freight rates, and strong-armed retail grocers.
26 Broadway, Sherman Antitrust Act, and Rockefeller Retirement 6001 The hosts discuss the establishment of 26 Broadway, the passage of the vague Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, and Rockefeller's nominal retirement.
Sponsor Spotlight: NordVPN Bootstrapped Cybersecurity Network 6101 Following the NordVPN read, Ben and David analyze the tension between antitrust sentiment, consumer welfare, and Rockefeller's moral defense of monopoly.
Power Dynamics: Analyzing Standard Oil through 7 Powers 6102 The co-hosts evaluate Standard Oil across Hamilton Helmer's 7 Powers framework, debating whether counter-positioning and network economies truly applied.
Playbook: Scale Economies as the Original Venture Model 7001 Ben draws parallels between Standard Oil's scale economies and modern venture capital-backed tech monopolies such as TSMC.
Grading Standard Oil: Value Creation and Historical Impact 6102 Ben and David grade Standard Oil's net societal value, debating counterfactual scenarios regarding whether an un-monopolized industry would have reached similar efficiency.

Statements from this episode (26)

Assertion Partly supported
Rockefeller became the wealthiest person in modern history before gasoline
“So yeah, John Dee becomes the wealthiest person in like, you know, modern human history before gasoline.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:54
Assertion Contradicted
Most modern gas stations trace back to Standard Oil
“When you look at a gas station, you are probably looking at some remnant of Standard Oil.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:31
Opinion
Standard Oil wrote the unwritten rules of modern business
“And this is just like, I think more than anything we've covered on this show, like Standard Oil wrote the rules, like all the rules that we are assume, that we just assume are the rules.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 7:58
Insight
Rockefeller intertwined ruthless wealth creation with philanthropy unlike modern billionaires
“It is this incredibly unique thing about John D. Rockefeller where when you describe him as one of the wealthiest businessmen of all time and a philanthropist, it's very different than the way that you would describe today's billionaires as wealthy people, and…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 17:57
Opinion
Rockefeller dwarfs Gates and Zuckerberg in wealth, power, and impact
“In every dimension, wealth, power, control, philanthropy, impact. John D makes like, you know Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg look like just children.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 18:48
Assertion Supported
Rockefeller celebrated September 26 as 'Job Day' his entire life
“And get this, for the rest of Rockefeller's, like, eighty-plus-year life, He celebrates September 26th as his job day.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 23:53
Assertion Contradicted
Most early global oil came from Titusville, Pennsylvania for 50 years
“For, like, 50, like, literally, I mean, there were some producers, some oil, oil mines oil rigs elsewhere, but, like, very small. Like, most of the oil in the world came from Titusville, Pennsylvania.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 33:05
Insight
Internal buyout auctions are the best way to resolve broken partnerships
“Which is, by the way, a great way to do it. Like, if you've got a partnership that's blowing up, like, all right, whoever wants to pay more to buy the other person out is the person that should get to own the whole thing. And so the idea of a bidding war betwe…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 49:08
Assertion Supported
Rockefeller's business exported two-thirds of its kerosene overseas by 1866
“Well, so by the very next year in 1866, the fledgling standard oil company is already selling two thirds of their kerosene overseas, primarily to Europe.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 56:27
Assertion Supported
Lakeshore railroad deal made Cleveland the top US oil refining center
“Cleveland was actually the number two largest center for oil refining behind Pittsburgh at this time. Once they do this deal, Cleveland is like fast tracked and becomes number one.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:07:30
Assertion Supported
Standard Oil paid a 105% dividend in its first year
“Remember there's one million dollars in total capital that gets put into this, into the structure. They pay a 105% dividend at the end of the year. Including also reinvesting tons of cash flow back into the business and, you know, expanding and buying other co…”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:16:31
Opinion
Rockefeller was right that Standard Oil's monopoly benefited consumers
“And he's right. He's totally right. Just like you know, Jeff Bezos would probably say the same thing today or with Amazon or the like.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:17:50
Assertion Supported
Standard Oil received secret kickbacks from competitors' freight fees
“Also, they will receive a little dividend, a little kickback. They call it technically a drawback. From any revenue that anybody, any other oil producers that are not part of this, that ship on the railroads, part of that revenue from the really high price tha…”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:25:30
Assertion Supported
Standard Oil acquired 22 of 26 Cleveland refineries in six weeks
“So over a period of six weeks, from February, 18, 72, to April, 18, 72, Standard Oil buys 22 of the 26 other refineries that are operating in Cleveland.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:31:48
Assertion Supported
Standard Oil controlled 90% of the US oil business
“Standard Oil controls 90% of the oil business in America.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:33:13
Assertion Supported
Standard Oil threatened in writing to bankrupt non-compliant Mississippi grocers
“They send out a letter to all the grocers in Mississippi. They say, if you do not buy our oil, we will start a grocery store chain to compete with you and sell goods at cost and put you all out of business. This is in writing sent to all of them.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:46:37
Assertion Supported
Rockefeller made more from auto oil in retirement than kerosene
“Rockefeller got so much richer in his retirement from his shares of Standard Oil, which became, you know, the things that powered us moving around the country in cars than he ever got from kerosene.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:50:31
Insight
Monopolies are always vulnerable to paradigm shifts without regulation
“Monopolies, even if you don't trust bust them are always at risk of being disrupted by a paradigm shift.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:51:22
Assertion Partly supported
Rockefeller was a top donor to Senator Sherman after Antitrust Act
“When Sherman runs for reelection in Ohio, the very next year in 1891, do you know who once again, one of his biggest donors was? It is John D. Rockefeller.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 1:54:26
Assertion Supported
Competitors who took Standard Oil stock became fabulously wealthy
“And certainly any of the, you know, competitors or suppliers or partners or the like who ended up taking standard oil stock got fabulously wealthy by doing so.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:01:30
Insight
Rockefeller created modern America's love-hate archetype for billionaire titans
“Rockefeller and standard oil as a organization, but Rockefeller as a person is really like the prototype of so much of American culture today. Like he is, he was simultaneously viewed as this like, you know, sinister villain and as this great hero. And like pe…”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:06:26
Insight
Standard Oil pioneered the venture capital model of massive fixed investment
“There's so much tied up here, but one of them is this is kind of the first venture capital business. Like we talked a lot on the TSMC episode about these massive fixed costs... And then it's all a volume game. Like how much can you get the plants at full capac…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:13:40
Assertion Supported
Standard Oil employed 100,000 people by the mid-1880s
“Standard Oil in the mid-eighteen eighties employed a 100,000 people, which that's probably the first time a company ever employed a 100,000 people.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:17:56
Assertion Supported
ExxonMobil was the world's most valuable company before FAANG
“It wasn't until the rise of the Fang era in the last 10 to 15 years before that Exxon mobile was by far the largest market cap company in the world.”
David Rosenthal Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:21:36
Assertion Partly supported
Standard Oil's 1900 profits equaled 0.25% of the entire US GDP
“So standard oil in 1900 produced sixty million dollars in earnings. And rather than inflation adjust that, let's look at it relative to the total GDP, which was twenty four billion dollars. Ok, so, sixty million dollars divided by twenty four billion dollars. …”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:22:42
What-if
The global oil industry would look identical today without Standard Oil
“I think the world would end up in no no different of a place. I think it would have been totally net even. And the only difference would be that the, you know, Rockefeller family foundation wouldn't be as large. I think give or take a few years, I think the wh…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 2:26:33
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