Vanguard

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28 statements across 1 episodes · 12 bullish · 2 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement May 18, 2026 by Ben Gilbert · said 254 times in 9 episodes since 2022 · across every show →

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Everything said about Vanguard, oldest first

May 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Over 90% of Vanguard's investor capital remains strictly US-based
“They have 20,000 employees, they have fifty million investors worldwide, but notably, the last thing I'll say is, a little over 90% of their investors And their investor capital is in the US. So they're not nearly as global as BlackRock or Invesco or Franklin …”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:04:22 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Vanguard has saved retail investors $1 trillion in Wall Street fees
“Because of Vanguard's relentless cost-cutting and low fees, Vanguard has saved investors over five hundred billion dollars in fees and trading costs since its founding in 1975, and as a recent book The Bogle Effect argues, Vanguard's actions also forced the ha…”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:26 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Industry fund fees average 44 basis points, 6.5x higher than Vanguard
“Vanguard's average ETF and mutual fund expense ratio is now down to 0.07% with some ETFs, like the one that I'm in, the VLO is 0.03%. The industry average across mutual funds and ETF is 44 basis points. So that is six and a half times Vanguard's average.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:03:30 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
What-if
Rival index funds like BlackRock would not exist without Vanguard
“None of those other firms would be in this market or doing it in the same way if it weren't for Vanguard.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 1:49 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Vanguard and rival index funds own 24% of the US stock market
“Vanguard is the largest shareholder of most U.S. Corporations, and together with the other big index funds like BlackRock, State Street, and Fidelity, they own 24% of the entire U.S. Stock market.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 1:35 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Vanguard absorbed $1.2 trillion in inflows between 2014 and 2019
“From 2014 to 2019, Vanguard takes in 1.2 trillion in cash inflows versus five hundred billion for the whole rest of the industry combined.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:36:57 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Insight
Vanguard fund investors structurally vote to lower fees in their own self-interest
“The investors are the board of directors, or elect the board of directors, and thus will always vote To lower fees when they can lower fees, because it's in their own interest.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:16:22 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026
Insight
Running a successful mutual fund is a commodity, not a differentiated product
“Jack had the insight that running a successful mutual fund is actually not a differentiated product. It is a commodity. What you are seeking is the highest possible long-term return on your capital. That is not like buying a unique piece of jewelry. It is like…”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:31:09 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Opinion
Vanguard represents the most extreme historical example of business counterpositioning
“I think this may be the most extreme example of counterpositioning ever. Bogle did something that was essentially non-economic. There's no economic incentive to create this company in the first place. Their ownership and fee structure was an advantage that can…”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:27:48 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Insight
Vanguard's mutual structure starves its technology and customer service of reinvestment capital
“Vanguard, the downside of its structure is that there are no excess profits that can be invested for the long term in things like technology and things like customer service.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:47:21 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Wellington Management continues to manage Vanguard's Wellington Fund today
“And then the best part, Wellington Management Still does the investment management for the Wellington fund within Vanguard, even to this day.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:07:16 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
84% of Vanguard funds have outperformed their peers over the past decade
“84% of Vanguard's funds have outperformed their peers over the last 10 years.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:04:17 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026
Assertion Supported
Vanguard pays S&P Global up to $400 million annually for index licensing
“People estimate that Vanguard pays S&P Global something like three to four hundred million dollars per year, and is their single largest licensing client, and the licensing segment of their business as a whole does 1.85 billion dollars a year, and to your poin…”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 1:25:15 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026
Assertion Supported
Jack Bogle ran Vanguard for 128 days while awaiting a heart transplant
“He waits a 128 days in the hospital waiting for a heart transplant. And he keeps working the whole time. He hasn't officially transitioned out of the CEO role and given it to Brennan yet.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 1:52:52 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Vanguard hired BlackRock's Saleem Ramji as its first outside CEO in history
“In May of 2024, Vanguard made another big CEO announcement that they were bringing on the first outside CEO in the firm's entire 50 year history, Saleem Ramji, from BlackRock, where he was, until that point in time, head of the iShares division.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:52:11 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026
Assertion Supported
Vanguard manages $12 trillion overall, including $2 trillion in active funds
“So total assets is now 12 trillion dollars. Two trillion of that, interestingly, is active.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:02:05 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026
Assertion Supported
Vanguard founder Jack Bogle suffered his first heart attack at age 31
“He was born with a rare genetic heart disease called arrhythmogenic right ventricular dysplasia, or ARVD. And that means that Jack suffers his first heart attack in 1960 at age 31.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 1:49:11 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Vanguard did not lay anyone off during the 2008 financial crisis
“First of all, you should know Vanguard did not lay anyone off during the financial crisis, which is kind of unbelievable.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:29:58 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
99% of Vanguard's assets were accumulated after Jack Bogle stepped down
“99% of Vanguard's AUM came after Jack stepped down.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 1:58:35 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Insight
A new index fund today would need 1% fees to break even
“If you were to try to start a new one today, in order to break even, you probably need one or two percent fees. Starting from a zero asset base, and so you'd be inherently non-competitive. You, if you're not already big, or you don't go raise a giant amount of…”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:27:07 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Much of Vanguard's AUM is held via third-party brokerages like Fidelity
“So many of their customers, of their AUM, don't actually have a relationship with the company. They are invested in Vanguard ETFs via their direct relationship with a different brokerage, primarily Fidelity.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:44:47 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 negative
Opinion
Vanguard has lacked meaningful scaled innovation for a decade
“There is this interesting question, which is that they haven't really had any new innovations in a while, call it a decade, that Have been really meaningful to the business and that they've continued to scale.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:54:06 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Insight
Customer-owned corporate structures lack built-in financial incentives to grow
“There actually is no built-in incentive or obligation to grow. With a structure like Vanguard. The only reason to do so is if you believe the mission of the company either As set up by Jack, or as it should be today, is to bring the service to as many people a…”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:00:46 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Vanguard financed its corporate campus using construction loans from its own fundholders
“I mean, even Vanguard's real estate on their campus in Malvern, when they were constructing that, they tapped the shareholders, they tapped the fund holders for essentially construction loans.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:09:59 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Vanguard managed $5 trillion across 20 million clients at Bogle's death
“At the time of his death, Vanguard managed an aggregate of five trillion dollars over twenty million clients.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:39:27 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Insight
Capital gains taxes create insurmountable switching costs for index fund investors
“There's no chance that I'm going to sell my Vanguard index fund and realize the capital gains tax only to switch to a different index fund.”
Ben Gilbert May 18, 2026 ▶ 3:28:45 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Vanguard managed 13 of the 15 largest individual funds in 2019
“They manage in 2019 13 of the 15 largest individual funds in the entire world.”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:40:06 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
May 18, 2026 negative
Opinion
Fidelity offers a far better product and service experience than Vanguard
“Fidelity is just a better product and product experience than Vanguard. So during the pandemic especially, it exposed that Vanguard's customer service and technology is like jank. It is not good. And there were a lot of horror stories of trades not going throu…”
David Rosenthal May 18, 2026 ▶ 2:46:59 Vanguard: The communist capitalist who saved investors a trillion dollars (Audio) · Acquired
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