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Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired Aug 10, 2026 · 2 mentions

SONY (75 years of electronics history in 3 hours) · Acquired Mar 7, 2022 · 25 mentions

  • ▶ 3:11 Ben Gilbert So we have a wild story going all the way from World War II to Spider-Man to tell you here today.
  • ▶ 2:22:45 Ben Gilbert That seven and a half billion would be the box office gross receipts for the Spider-Man franchise.
  • ▶ 2:23:01 Ben Gilbert There is an insane story about why we're talking about Spider-Man and Sony when we've done so much wonderful discussion on this show on
  • ▶ 2:23:28 David Rosenthal Why does Sony have Spider-Man?
  • ▶ 2:24:04 Ben Gilbert For the film rights to Spider-Man.
  • ▶ 2:24:32 Ben Gilbert The money that comes from Spider-Man toys that are sold specifically to the movie, and they look at that, and they're like, that's probably all incremental, so great, let's do it.
  • ▶ 2:24:43 Ben Gilbert In other ways, you know, maybe they wouldn't have known to start Marvel Studios absent the gigantic success of the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man, but David, ten million dollars and five percent of the revenue is what Marvel gets out of this.
  • ▶ 2:25:08 Ben Gilbert Sony has the right to produce Spider-Man movies forever.
  • ▶ 2:25:21 David Rosenthal So we can guarantee that there is going to be one Spider-Man movie at least every five years and nine months.
  • ▶ 2:25:51 Ben Gilbert Because we've got a new Spider-Man who, you know, is the same in the Spider-Man movies and in the Marvel movies.
  • ▶ 2:26:07 Ben Gilbert Obviously, Marvel really wants to have Spider-Man included in the Avengers, and they also decide that, well, can we make it so that the Spider-Man movies that are coming out are good and, like, kind of tie in, like, that's maybe the same…
  • ▶ 2:26:41 Ben Gilbert They are saying we will make the movies like we will make the independent Spider-Man movies mostly like it's going to be technically Sony's creative control, but we're basically doing the whole production.
  • ▶ 2:27:03 Ben Gilbert You have to let us put that Spider-Man into the MCU.
  • ▶ 2:27:10 Ben Gilbert And so they cut that deal right before Captain America Civil War, which is where they introduced Spider-Man.
  • ▶ 2:27:17 Ben Gilbert So all these recent Spider-Mans, no way home, and it's actually this weird joint ownership where Sony's making the money, but Marvel's making the movie, and they're just doing it in order to, like, get to use Spider-Man in the MCU.
  • ▶ 2:27:39 Ben Gilbert Cause some of them Spider-Man movies are Spider-Man movies.
  • ▶ 2:27:45 Ben Gilbert If Spider-Man is the main character, it's a Sony movie with the 95 five split and it doesn't go on Disney plus Sony gets to license out the movie wherever they please.
  • ▶ 2:27:57 Ben Gilbert If Spider-Man is not the main character, it is a Marvel movie and it's just all the same normal stuff that Marvel always owns.
  • ▶ 2:29:38 Ben Gilbert Sony almost tried to do like an MCU type thing with all the IP that they owned, but it was like Spider-Man and Ghostbusters and a bunch of like very odd things that didn't belong together.
  • ▶ 2:29:48 Ben Gilbert Again, this is all in the Sony hack emails, but then they started bringing Spider-Man into PlayStation marketing and kind of a weird way.
  • ▶ 2:29:57 Ben Gilbert Was the same, like on, that was printed on the outside as the Spider-Man Tobey Maguire series.
  • ▶ 2:30:03 David Rosenthal Now it makes sense why the Spider-Man games are PlayStation exclusives.
  • ▶ 2:30:20 Ben Gilbert Sony could have licensed all the Marvel characters, but somebody was like, eh, they're all kind of bad except Spider-Man.
  • ▶ 2:30:37 Ben Gilbert And so Sony was like, eh, no, let's just go get Spider-Man.
  • ▶ 2:41:18 David Rosenthal Except for the Spider-Man deal.
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