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The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 21:36 Ben Gilbert And maybe walk us through a little bit the OS two windows world.
- ▶ 23:35 David Rosenthal For listeners, everything we're talking about is OS two.
- ▶ 23:38 David Rosenthal OS two.
- ▶ 23:40 Steve Ballmer OS two, and there was OS two extended edition or something, which it had their edition.
- ▶ 24:06 Ben Gilbert let's do OS two together.
- ▶ 24:44 Steve Ballmer We're trying to keep with OS two.
- ▶ 24:53 Steve Ballmer And so Bill's pushing windows hard, but we still suspected OS two could be the winner because it came from IBM, but we couldn't just like stop for three or four years.
- ▶ 25:10 Steve Ballmer So, we kept going with Windows, we kept going with OS two, and then May, 1990, they come along and shoot us.
- ▶ 26:04 Steve Ballmer What's always too good for?
- ▶ 29:16 Ben Gilbert Walking away from the OST collaboration?
- ▶ 29:21 David Rosenthal Basically they kicked you out, kicked Microsoft out, said we're, we're taking OS two in-house.
- ▶ 55:53 Steve Ballmer IBM's still selling OS two.
Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:00:52 Ben Gilbert And so you had the NT lineage of, I guess, maybe even you could say it started with OS two, but Windows NT, Windows 2000, and then Windows XP.
- ▶ 4:31:18 Ben Gilbert And so in the IBM days, you know, you had Windows and OS II, and in the internet era, you had, like, the web browser versus all the interactive TV stuff, or Longhorn, which was supposed to be little and iterative, versus Blackcomb, which…
Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:41:18 David Rosenthal A lot of people, including Bill and Microsoft themselves, believe that the way the Apple was gonna fall from the tree here was IBM and OS II.
- ▶ 2:42:14 David Rosenthal They're gonna make this operating system in partnership with Microsoft, and it's gonna be called, fittingly, OS-II.
- ▶ 2:42:25 David Rosenthal OS-II is gonna be proprietary to IBM hardware, just like the Mac operating system is proprietary to Apple hardware.
- ▶ 2:43:10 David Rosenthal Commit themselves to Microsoft is all in on this vision of the future of OS two and IBM is our horse in the race.
- ▶ 2:44:39 Ben Gilbert And the company kind of motto at this point is the next big thing is OS two and IBM.
- ▶ 2:44:54 David Rosenthal OS two is the future.
- ▶ 2:47:09 David Rosenthal So I think that was a big part of the impetus for this OS-II initiative.
- ▶ 2:47:23 David Rosenthal So, when OS-II finally does come out in December, 87, predictably, as you can imagine here, it's not very good.
- ▶ 2:47:42 David Rosenthal Like, the market is not going to accept OS II and a re-centralization on IBM.
- ▶ 2:47:48 David Rosenthal Microsoft's just crushing it on the revenue side, even though OS II is a failure.
- ▶ 2:48:06 David Rosenthal Basically none of this is from OS two and the IBM world.
- ▶ 2:49:30 David Rosenthal Microsoft released Windows three point O and on that day, the IBM compatible PC, a machine hobbled by an outmoded character based operating system and seventies style programs was transformed into a computer that could soar in a decade of…
- ▶ 2:50:33 Ben Gilbert And the first thing that is super, super obvious is as Brad sort of observed everything going on with OS two land and everything going on with the core Microsoft culture, it was a complete clash.
- ▶ 2:52:12 Ben Gilbert I mean, the prestigious thing to work on at Microsoft was OS two and eventually Windows NT, but the Windows team in the Windows three era is almost like the Mac team over at Apple.
- ▶ 2:53:21 David Rosenthal But it wasn't until this when, like, in this whole OS-II thing, I think you can see, like, they sort of felt like they were still little brother, and they had to go along with what IBM dictated.
- ▶ 2:58:19 David Rosenthal For OS two, some of them were targeting the Mac, like Microsoft itself, but nobody was targeting Windows.
- ▶ 3:07:06 David Rosenthal IBM takes full control of OS two development back from Microsoft.
- ▶ 3:08:24 David Rosenthal One, it's the legacy of this bet on the Mac, bet on Excel, and, you know, bet on Windows, you know, shortly thereafter, that enables Microsoft to go into the enterprise because, yeah, even though they've just broken up with IBM and OS two…
- ▶ 3:09:43 David Rosenthal Remember, IBM's whole goal with OS II was that they saw the trajectory of the PC was gonna eat into traditional mainframe-type applications in the enterprise, and they wanted to recentralize
- ▶ 3:10:09 David Rosenthal And so the initial work kind of starts out of the work they had been doing on OS two with IBM.
- ▶ 3:12:00 David Rosenthal So NT, we'll talk a lot more about it on the next episode, but spoiler alert, it is the vision of what IBM wanted OS to to be, but it's Microsoft's version of it.
- ▶ 3:40:44 David Rosenthal I mean, they were going to get things wrong with OS too, but they hedged the bets with Windows.