Mozilla, every mention
41 scenes · ← back to Mozilla
tap a year for its mentions
every year anyone Brendan Eich 26David Rosenthal 9Ben Gilbert 6
Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where Mozilla comes up
Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:58:19 David Rosenthal Mozilla was the nonprofit organization that was founded and spun off from Netscape when AOL bought Netscape.
- ▶ 1:58:37 David Rosenthal But then once Firefox actually gets released by Mozilla and deployed out there,
- ▶ 1:58:44 David Rosenthal The way Google starts supporting Mozilla and Firefox is through paying traffic acquisition costs to them to be the default search in the Firefox browser.
- ▶ 1:59:02 David Rosenthal Firefox is where this all starts with Mozilla.
- ▶ 1:59:04 Ben Gilbert Actually, traffic acquisition costs originated before Mozilla because it's effectively the same thing that they were doing with software vendors to include Google Toolbar.
- ▶ 1:59:34 Ben Gilbert But yes, Google has a long history of paying for distribution of their search engine and the new form that it is now taking is the Mozilla Firefox browser.
- ▶ 1:59:59 David Rosenthal So, a couple years, Google's paying Mozilla for default search in Firefox, basically funding Mozilla.
- ▶ 2:00:15 David Rosenthal Firefox engineers at Mozilla to come and work at Google directly, but they position this as like, essentially this is the same thing.
- ▶ 2:00:23 David Rosenthal We are still funding Mozilla and Firefox, just like, you know, you're Mozilla, you can't give these employees, these engineers stock options, like you're a nonprofit.
- ▶ 2:00:50 David Rosenthal This team that comes over from Mozilla into Google becomes the core of a new, quote, product client group within Google.
Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:45:22 Ben Gilbert They famously did a deal to become the default search engine in Firefox just as it was becoming popular, which served as Mozilla's main revenue source for decades.
The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:14 Ben Gilbert He holds the credential of inventing JavaScript, a source of much joy and also much pain for many of you out there, and Brendan was the chief architect of Netscape and eventually became the CEO of Mozilla, the makers of Firefox.
- ▶ 18:31 David Rosenthal You go in the Mozilla direction.
- ▶ 21:36 Ben Gilbert Okay, so we're now at this point where you're on your own with Mozilla.
- ▶ 23:08 Brendan Eich And Mozilla had to figure out, are we doing a suite?
- ▶ 23:26 Brendan Eich Uh, they started wondering what they bought and why, and so for the first two years, I think, 99 and 2000, the head of Netscape division was decapitated, and somebody I liked, a nice guy I mentioned, took their place, but it didn't go well…
- ▶ 23:42 Brendan Eich It meant Mozilla was considered the enemy because most of the employees initially were the contributors, and it was rare to find outside contributors.
- ▶ 25:05 Brendan Eich And so we started growing Mozilla even before Firefox in a way that I think
- ▶ 25:47 Brendan Eich And Ted said, hey, Mitch, I've got this thing, Mozilla, I don't know what to do with.
- ▶ 26:06 Brendan Eich because they didn't like Mozilla
- ▶ 26:19 Brendan Eich And yet, the next week on the Mozilla community call, there was Mitchell doing the governance leadership.
- ▶ 26:32 Brendan Eich Kill Mozilla.
- ▶ 26:44 Brendan Eich And Mitch had hired Mitchell Baker, who'd been the Mozilla manager from about eight months into the founding up till she was laid off.
- ▶ 27:04 Brendan Eich Ted did the right thing and gave us two million over two years to spin out the Mozilla project.
- ▶ 28:20 Brendan Eich Dave Hyatt and I wrote the roadmap update for Mozilla in
- ▶ 28:39 Brendan Eich And that roadmap you can still find even on Mozilla.
- ▶ 36:56 Brendan Eich Mozilla did not
- ▶ 37:22 Ben Gilbert Because, of course, the vast majority of Mozilla's revenue comes from the Google search deal to use Google as the default and get paid hundreds of millions of dollars from Google.
- ▶ 37:30 Brendan Eich Yeah, it really was the one big trick for funding Mozilla, and it was, you know, good while it lasted, but it also foretold Google doing its own browser, right?
- ▶ 38:01 Brendan Eich Let's make our own little mini Mozilla.
- ▶ 38:32 Brendan Eich And some of the people I've worked with at AOL or at Mozilla were working on the prototype.
- ▶ 41:08 Brendan Eich When I was thinking about Brave, I realized not only had Mozilla become captured by its search partner and was probably going to die because it couldn't compete, not just on Chrome intrinsic qualities, but on distribution, which really…
- ▶ 41:52 Brendan Eich Mozilla doesn't have the resources to do this.
- ▶ 42:01 Brendan Eich They might've done a little growth hacking.
- ▶ 42:03 Brendan Eich So, and they never got big on mobile.
- ▶ 1:01:11 Brendan Eich We use the Electron framework when we switched from a private version based on Mozilla's Gecko engine to Chromium Blink, and using Electron was a mistake.
- ▶ 1:02:42 Brendan Eich I knew how to do 10 people out of AOL with the Netscape Mozilla codebase because I'd worked on that codebase with hundreds of engineers at
- ▶ 1:03:02 Brendan Eich And even though we, we had to shrink the workforce, but it was bigger than the 10 people I had at Mozilla in 2003 when we spun out.
- ▶ 1:03:21 Brendan Eich And we did start with, with Mozilla Gecko in a multiprocess sandboxed, uh, framework called Graphene that was part of Firefox OS, which I'd worked on, but it just lost on this big spreadsheet we did where we just scored it against Chromium…
- ▶ 1:04:07 Brendan Eich Gecko was never big on mobile because Mozilla was never big on mobile.
- ▶ 1:16:10 Brendan Eich You'll get all these phishing support accounts pretending to be your buddy, impersonating my friend David Walsh, who was at Mozilla and now is at MetaMask.