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Lotus

includes Lotus 1 2 3, Lotus Notes

3 statements across 2 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Apr 22, 2024 by David Rosenthal · said 38 times in 6 episodes since 2022 · across every show →

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brought up most by Ben Gilbert (21), David Rosenthal (10), Brendan Eich (3), Steve Ballmer (2)

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2024 27 mentions in 2 episodes 14 per episode
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Everything said about Lotus, oldest first

Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lotus generated more revenue than Microsoft in the late 1980s
“There are a couple of years in the late eighties where Lotus has more revenue than Microsoft. And is valued higher.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:20:49 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Lotus Notes pursued a dead-end path trying to be an operating system
“Lotus would really go down a dead-end evolutionary path with notes, you know, later in its life, in its final chapter, where the application was going to be the operating system.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:35:38 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Ray Ozzie built Lotus Notes independently with Lotus as publisher
“Ray, of course, being the author of Lotus Notes, Ray is a legendary developer, and he has great relationships within Microsoft, because Ray built Lotus Notes not at Lotus, but at his own software studio startup, and Lotus was just his publisher.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:36:10 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
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