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Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:14:52 David Rosenthal So Elon's excitement channeled initially through DeepMind and Demis about AI and AI for Tesla starts ratcheting up big time.
- ▶ 1:15:03 David Rosenthal Meanwhile, back in London, DeepMind is getting to work.
- ▶ 1:15:35 David Rosenthal He wants to buy the company.
- ▶ 1:16:24 David Rosenthal And is also the lead investor in DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:16:27 David Rosenthal Where do you think Mark learned about DeepMind?
- ▶ 1:16:41 David Rosenthal So, Mark calls and offers to buy the company.
- ▶ 1:17:11 Ben Gilbert Which, by the way, is kind of against everything the company was founded on.
- ▶ 1:17:16 Ben Gilbert The whole aim of the company and what he's promised the team is that DeepMind is going to stay independent, do research, publish in the scientific community.
- ▶ 1:17:51 Ben Gilbert Turns out Mark is not flexible on letting Demis keep control of DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:17:58 Ben Gilbert Demis sort of argued for, we need to stay separate and carved out, and we need this independent oversight board with his ability to intervene if the mission of DeepMind is no longer being followed.
- ▶ 1:18:15 David Rosenthal So, as this negotiation is going on, of course, the investors in DeepMind get wind of this.
- ▶ 1:18:26 David Rosenthal He immediately calls up Demis and says, I will buy the company right now with Tesla stock.
- ▶ 1:19:17 Ben Gilbert Do you want my story of how Larry knows about the company?
- ▶ 1:19:20 David Rosenthal I absolutely want your story of how Larry knows about the company.
- ▶ 1:19:23 Ben Gilbert So this is still early in DeepMind's life.
- ▶ 1:19:28 Ben Gilbert Apparently, Elon Musk is on a private jet with Luke Nosek, who's another member of the PayPal mafia and an angel investor in DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:19:36 Ben Gilbert And they're reading an email from Demis with an update about a breakthrough that they had where DeepMind AI figured out a clever way to win at the Atari game breakout.
- ▶ 1:20:48 David Rosenthal Demis, of course, views DeepMind so much as an AI company that he doesn't even want to make any products until they can get to AGI.
- ▶ 1:21:02 Ben Gilbert Larry was completely on board with the mission of everything that DeepMind was doing.
- ▶ 1:21:14 David Rosenthal So Larry doesn't need Demis and Shane and Mustafa and DeepMind to come work on products within Google.
- ▶ 1:21:52 David Rosenthal It is the perfect home for DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:21:59 David Rosenthal And, and there's a third reason why Google's the perfect fit for DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:22:52 Ben Gilbert He decides, I'm gonna get on a plane in December before the holidays and go meet DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:24:21 Ben Gilbert There's an independent oversight board that is set up to make sure that the mission and goals of DeepMind are actually being followed, and this is an asset that Google owns today that, again, I think is worth half a trillion dollars if…
- ▶ 1:30:46 Ben Gilbert So, what are the second order effects of Google buying DeepMind?
- ▶ 1:31:09 David Rosenthal When Google buys DeepMind out from under him, Elon goes ballistic.
- ▶ 1:31:33 David Rosenthal And Elon's invested in DeepMind
- ▶ 1:31:36 David Rosenthal Wanted to bring DeepMind into his own AI team at Tesla and gone out from under him.
- ▶ 1:38:26 David Rosenthal Basically, the plan at OpenAI is, let's look at what's happening at DeepMind and show the research community that we can do, as a new lab, do the same incredible things that they're doing, and maybe even do them better.
- ▶ 1:38:54 David Rosenthal DeepMind, you're playing StarCraft.
- ▶ 1:39:40 David Rosenthal It was what DeepMind was doing.
- ▶ 1:39:44 David Rosenthal It was like DeepMind.
- ▶ 1:39:46 David Rosenthal And if you think back to Elon being an investor in DeepMind, being really upset about Google acquiring it out from under him.
- ▶ 1:40:09 Ben Gilbert Okay, so that's what's going on over at OpenAI, doing a lot of DeepMind-like stuff.
- ▶ 2:40:27 David Rosenthal We're merging Brain and DeepMind into one entity called Google DeepMind.
- ▶ 2:40:44 David Rosenthal And the way he makes it work is he says, Demis, you are now CEO of the AI division of Google, Google DeepMind.
- ▶ 2:40:53 David Rosenthal This is all hands on deck, and you and DeepMind are gonna lead the charge, you're gonna integrate with Google Brain, and we need to change all of the past 10 years of culture around building and shipping AI products within Google.
- ▶ 3:53:34 David Rosenthal They are making hard decisions, like, we're unifying deep mind and brain, we're consolidating and standardizing on one model, and we're gonna ship this stuff real fast.
- ▶ 4:03:34 David Rosenthal Also to Parmi Olson at Bloomberg for her book Supremacy about Deep Mind and Open AI, which was a main source for this episode.
- ▶ 4:05:12 Ben Gilbert To Korai Kovakhchalu from the DeepMind team building the core Gemini models.
- ▶ 4:05:20 Ben Gilbert To Jim Gao, the CEO of Phaedra and former DeepMind team member.
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- ▶ 2:51:24 David Rosenthal There are also researchers speaking from OpenAI, Meta, Google, DeepMind, Microsoft, Ford, Genentech, Disney, National Labs, and more.