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Google

also referred to as: alphabet

includes Google Chrome, Google Search, Google Maps, Google Brain, Google DeepMind, Google AdSense, Google Cloud, Google Toolbar, Google AdWords, Google Docs, Google Translate, Google Earth and 44 more

231 statements across 20 episodes · 98 bullish · 27 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement Feb 15, 2022 by Brendan Eich · said 2,597 times in 67 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

Mentions by year, the whole family

brought up most by David Rosenthal (1231), Ben Gilbert (1220), Brendan Eich (76), Steve Ballmer (8), Mark Zuckerberg (8), Michael Lewis (7), Brad Gerstner (7), Ben Thompson (6)

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2022 294 mentions in 23 episodes 13 per episode
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Everything said about Google, oldest first

Feb 15, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Eich: Google only pays browsers for default search status
“Google only pays for default because they're king of the hill and they figure they'll get the traffic anyway.”
Brendan Eich Feb 15, 2022 ▶ 1:14:26 The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
Feb 15, 2022 negative
Opinion
Eich: Google is complicit with digital ad fraudsters by collecting fees
“And that Google still gets the fee when this advertising money is stolen by fraudsters makes Google complicit with the fraudsters to some degree. It misaligns the interests again. It's a conflict of interest.”
Brendan Eich Feb 15, 2022 ▶ 57:46 The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
Feb 15, 2022 bearish
Opinion
Eich: Mozilla became captured by Google and cannot compete on distribution
“When I was thinking about Brave, I realized not only had Mozilla become captured by its search partner and was probably going to die because it couldn't compete, not just on Chrome intrinsic qualities, but on distribution, which really matters at scale.”
Brendan Eich Feb 15, 2022 ▶ 41:08 The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
Feb 15, 2022 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Eich: Google Chrome Changed in 2018 to Auto-Sign In Users for Ad Tracking
“In 2018 September, Google said, gosh darn it, people aren't signing into the browser enough. We're going to just do it whenever you sign in to Gmail or YouTube in a tab. We'll just sign you in across all the tabs and we'll track you.”
Brendan Eich Feb 15, 2022 ▶ 40:00 The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
Feb 15, 2022 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eich: Every Mozilla executive believed Google would eventually kill them
“I also at Mozilla thought, we're going to get killed by Google. I think every executive thought this at Mozilla.”
Brendan Eich Feb 15, 2022 ▶ 48:47 The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
Mar 15, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Google desktop search turned negative year-over-year in late 2012
“Google's desktop search, I think, didn't go negative Until 2012. Maybe the fall of 2012. That's when there were fewer people searching on desktop, you know, on a year-over-year basis because people were switching to their mobile devices, okay?”
Brad Gerstner Mar 15, 2022 ▶ 58:20 Altimeter (with Brad Gerstner) · Acquired
Apr 20, 2022 bullish
Opinion
Rosenthal: Google and Meta depend fundamentally on Nvidia
“This is Google and Facebook and a whole list of other companies on the consumer side, and they're all dependent on NVIDIA.”
David Rosenthal Apr 20, 2022 ▶ 53:36 Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
Apr 20, 2022 negative
Opinion
Rosenthal: Android hardware value chain yields no profits by Google's design
“My impression of the whole Android Value chain ecosystem is that there's no profits to be made anywhere, and Google keeps it that way on purpose.”
David Rosenthal Apr 20, 2022 ▶ 39:25 Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
May 12, 2022 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: AWS market share exceeds Google Cloud and Azure combined
“AWS is growing at 37% annually on a seventy five billion dollar base. Google and Microsoft are growing at 45%, but their market share combined is still significantly less than Amazon.”
David Rosenthal May 12, 2022 ▶ 30:51 Arena Show Part I: Idea Dinner + YC Continuity · Acquired
Jun 20, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Yakovenko: A Solana transaction uses the energy of two Google searches
“The other thing about Solana is it's very, very energy efficient. So single Solana transaction is about like two or three Google searches. So if you think of it as using a web service, this is a network that, you know, takes as much energy as a regular web ser…”
Anatoly Yakovenko Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 3:43 The Playbook: Lessons from 200+ Company Stories · Acquired
Aug 2, 2022 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Stanford took only 1% of Google versus typical 25-50% university stakes
“Stanford only took one percent of Google when it was a Stanford, you know, graduate research project, when most universities want 25, 50 plus percent of anything that they call it tech transfer.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 2, 2022 ▶ 1:51:46 From NFL to Startup COO to Congressman Regulating Crypto (with Rep. Anthony Gonzalez) · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Ram Shriram wrote Google's first $250,000 check and joined its board
“He invests the first 250,000 dollars in Google, and he joins the board of Google.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:24:49 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos invested $250,000 into Google at seed terms
“So Rahm goes to bath for him, and he convinces Larry and Sergey to take another 250,000 dollars of Jeff and Mackenzie's personal money at the seed price.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:26:05 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Gilbert: Google went public without raising venture rounds beyond Series A
“Google went public just on that Series A.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:27:22 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google's Series A with Kleiner and Sequoia was valued at $100M post-money
“The Series A that would happen shortly thereafter of Google famously split between John Dora Kleiner and Mike Moritz at Sequoia was at a hundred million dollar post-money valuation, which was insane for the Point in time.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:26:18 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 negative
Opinion
Rosenthal: Google effectively killed eBay through superior search
“Honestly, I mean, I think this is drawing too broad of a brush, but I think Google killed eBay, right? You know, the best way to search eBay is Google. It's not eBay.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:53:24 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Google IPO'd in 2004 at a $23B market capitalization
“So in 2004, Google IPO'd for twenty three billion dollar market cap.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:28:00 Amazon.com · Acquired
Sep 6, 2022 bullish
Insight
Gilbert: Data gravity gives AWS an ML moat over Google's superior models
“What's becoming clearer to me is the machine learning capabilities that Amazon has need to be good, but they actually don't need to be as good as Google's. Because here's sort of the strategy with machine learning. You're gonna use whatever ML is available wit…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2022 ▶ 2:00:44 Amazon Web Services · Acquired
Sep 6, 2022 negative
Insight
Gilbert: Microsoft and Google initially missed the cloud wave via PaaS
“And the unfortunate thing for Microsoft and for Google, who really started at this platform as a service layer, was you basically didn't get the startups because you didn't have a mature platform yet that people were excited to build on and understood how to b…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2022 ▶ 1:30:37 Amazon Web Services · Acquired
Sep 6, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Amazon, Microsoft, and Google hold 40%, 22%, and 10% cloud share
“Amazon's got 35, maybe 40%. Microsoft's got 20 to 22%. Google's somewhere around 10%.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2022 ▶ 1:40:39 Amazon Web Services · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 bullish
What-if
Benchmark almost assuredly could have won a slot in Google's Series A
“But could they have beaten one of those two firms to get one of the two primary VC slots in Google? Almost assuredly. I mean, at this point, this was Bench where they had just done eBay. You know, they were at the height of their powers. They were the internet…”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 2:23:48 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
John Doerr and Mike Moritz backed Google at a $100M valuation
“I mean, it was crazy when John and Mike Moritz did Google at a hundred million dollar valuation in the Series A, you know, that was earth changing.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 11:15 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Jun 13, 2023 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Khosrowshahi: Rides drives more new Eats customers than all external ads combined
“Yeah, we get more new customers from Arise than we do From Google, Meta, Instagram, you know, all of these other channels combined.”
Dara Khosrowshahi Jun 13, 2023 ▶ 25:19 Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023
Assertion Supported
Ilya Sutskever left Google in 2015 to co-found OpenAI
“So after the dinner, Ilya leaves Google and signs up to become, as we said, co-founder and chief scientist of a new independent AI non-profit research lab backed by Elon and Sam. OpenAI.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 23:07 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Training early large transformer models was financially untenable for anyone except Google
“GPUs and NVIDIA and the transformer made it possible, but to work with the size of models you're talking about spending an amount of money that's certainly for a nonprofit and anybody really except Google was untenable.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 38:01 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 negative
Opinion
Google possesses strong technical AI capabilities but lacks fundamental product sense
“I mean, this is Google here. Like, the capabilities are there. The product sense. Not as much.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 36:05 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023
Assertion Supported
Google built TPUs to offset compute costs while still buying Nvidia hardware
“Even Google at this point in time, this is when they start building their own chips, TPUs, because, you know, they're still buying tons of hardware from NVIDIA, but they're also starting to source their own here.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 43:16 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Jan 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Novo Nordisk's 84% gross margins surpass Microsoft and Google
“Gross margins are better than software. They run about 84%. Lilly is also a very high margin company, running about 80%. For context, Microsoft has a gross margin of 70% and Google is 56%.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 22, 2024 ▶ 2:24:28 Novo Nordisk (Ozempic) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Google Sheets Users Are in the Global Minority Compared to Excel
“Excel is still the main way that spreadsheets are done around the world. I bet a lot of listeners use Google Sheets. We do, too. We love it. Also use Excel, but if you do use Google Sheets, you are in the minority.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:19:34 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: Google monetizes browser traffic better than Microsoft monetized software licenses
“Eventually, Google comes along and creates a browser. They also don't sell that browser, but they monetize all the traffic coming through that browser, and they do it way better than Microsoft does at monetizing selling licenses.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:55:47 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Apple makes around $20 billion annually from Google default search
“The rumors are that Apple makes something on the order of twenty billion dollars a year today in 2024 from Google as being the front door to Google, sending all of the iPhone search traffic to Google.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:41:47 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
What-if
Gilbert: Microsoft would have missed mobile regardless of the DOJ antitrust case
“Even without the whole DOJ thing, Microsoft probably would have visted themselves. Microsoft almost certainly would have missed mobile because there's no chance they would have realized that the business model that Google had Meant that they were gonna win in …”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:39:25 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Insight
Gilbert: Free ad-supported search makes 3x to 5x more per user than software
“If I could take seven billion people in the world and sell them Windows, or I can take seven billion people in the world and have them use my search engine for free and then make the money from the advertisers, I'm gonna make three to five X more money from th…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:54:18 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Gilbert: Microsoft used its browser for defense, while Google used Chrome for offense
“Microsoft built a browser, had a bunch of share, and then kind of looked around and said, we don't really know what to do with it. I guess we'll use it for defense? And Google built a browser and said, we know exactly what to do with this, and they used it for…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:56:04 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Zuckerberg: Meta might be twice as profitable if it owned mobile platforms
“You know, we did this calculation or estimate at some point where it's like, how much money do we lose from our core family of apps to the various, like, taxes that the platforms have to, like, when they tell us we can't run the ad business the way that we thi…”
Mark Zuckerberg Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 2:03:05 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 neutral
Insight
Gilbert: Value Major M&A on Existential Risk Rather Than Standalone DCF
“The way that you should look at YouTube is not, what is the discounted cash flow of YouTube as an independent business if you look at their, you know, profitability today. It's, what was the existential risk to Google of not owning YouTube? If YouTube became a…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 51:48 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 positive
Opinion
Gilbert: Google's YouTube Acquisition Is an A-Plus Deal Despite Questionable Profitability
“YouTube was an A plus acquisition. Because of the strategic value. I mean, whether it's the second largest search engine, second to Google, or the second largest social media property you know, Strategically, very great thing to own, not to mention going into …”
Ben Gilbert Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 50:14 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Zuckerberg: Meta open-sourced infrastructure because Google already held proprietary compute advantage
“Google was the first of the great companies that built this distributed computing infrastructure. So they came first. They were like, all right, let's keep this proprietary because it's a big advantage for us. And then we're like, all right, we need that too. …”
Mark Zuckerberg Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 1:41:35 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Chang: Analysts Value Standalone YouTube at $500B, YouTube TV Leading Cable
“Today you have analysts saying if you pulled YouTube out of Google, it would be worth half a trillion dollars, which is almost double where Netflix is. It's on track, YouTube TV, to be the largest cable provider in the United States.”
Emily Chang Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 48:49 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: YouTube Pays 55% on Long-Form and 45% on Shorts to Creators
“Google does not report today, but here is what is unique about YouTube versus every other platform is they pay out 55% of revenue on long form and 45% on shorts directly to creators.”
David Rosenthal Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 49:45 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Facebook Surpassed Google in Daily Page Views in November 2005
“By November of 2005, they were getting two hundred and thirty million page views daily, which means that they had passed Google in page views.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 1:45:49 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Pre-Facebook VCs routinely replaced founder CEOs with professional managers
“There wasn't Founders Fund yet. There wasn't A-sixteen Z yet. There wasn't like the notion of founder friendliness. What venture capitalists did is they invested in founders companies and then brought in management to take them to the next level. It's what hap…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 1:18:03 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Gilbert: Mobile app updates took two weeks for review in 2012
“And at this point in time, there was approximately a two-week delay between pushing an update and it being reviewed and accepted.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 3:24:57 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft pursued Facebook in 2007 after missing search to Google
“Microsoft, perhaps obvious now in retrospect to everybody, really just wants to buy the company. But Mark's, of course, not gonna do that after the whole Yahoo experience, etc. Microsoft is also happy, though, to just keep the partnership going and expand it, …”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:41:05 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Sheryl Sandberg built and ran Google's self-serve ad business
“And then Cheryl built and ran the whole self-serve business at Google, which was the most important and the most technology, like, enabled part of what they were doing.”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:56:50 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Ballmer: Microsoft entered search in 2003 with zero native capability
“And we jumped in in 2003, I think we pushed. Now, you'd say five years is a lot, or you could say five years isn't that much. You could say we had no birthright. I mean, it's just a completely separate thing. We had no capability. We had nobody who'd grown up …”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:08:24 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Ballmer: Android is not an independent business, just search lead gen
“Android is not a trick. Because you highlighted it. Android is a piece of the search trick.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:38:45 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Ballmer: Google remains only a one to one-and-a-half trick pony
“I might argue that Google's a one to one and a half trick pony. Still. I mean, if you just look at its revenue.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:30:27 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Google's initial AdWords launch had self-serve and ad quality without CPC auctions
“The first version they launch includes self-serve and includes ad quality. But it doesn't yet include CPC or the auction, which is funny.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:09:51 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Multiplying bid price by click-through rate mathematically maximizes ad revenue
“If your formula for placing ads is a combination of the price that an advertiser is willing to pay per click and the click through rate of the ad, Well, that's actually the mathematically optimal formula for maximizing your own revenue as Google.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:08:30 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Urs Hölzle ran Google's infrastructure from 1999 until 2023
“Urs is now a fellow, but he ran all of Google's infrastructure from 1999 until 2023.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 59:57 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Google generated $10M profit on $86M revenue in 2001
“Google for the year ultimately did eighty six million dollars in revenue that year, and ten million dollars in profit. So, turned profitable in 2001, like, great numbers by any metric for a startup, and especially in the middle of the dot com winter.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:16:25 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Google grew revenue over 5x from 2001 to 2002
“Yep, they more than five X revenue from 2001 to 2002, from the eighty six million to four hundred and forty million in revenue.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:23:06 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Google's international revenue expanded from 18% initially to half of business
“Year one, because Omid spent the whole year on the plane, 18% of revenue is now international. 2002, it grew to 22%. 2003, it grew to 29%. Today, it's half of Google's business”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:17:49 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Gilbert: PageRank Is No Longer Google Search's Primary Differentiator
“PageRank really is the thing that got Google going, but that part of the algorithm isn't really the thing that's the main differentiable asset today.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:56:54 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google gave AOL an 85% revenue share to dominate search
“Google will then share back 85 cents on the dollar to AOL for all of that revenue. AOL wants two things in exchange for turning over their entire business in the search advertising world to Google. One is, we want warrant coverage, so what they end up getting …”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:26:02 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Google AdSense surpassed $1M per day in revenue by late 2003
“They launch AdSense. By the end of the year, so just a few months later, it's doing over a million dollars a day in revenue.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:54:36 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Alphabet generates more net income than any other U.S. company
“Google, and I should say Alphabet today, generates more net income or profit than any other U.S. Company. More than Apple, Microsoft, Exxon Mobil, JPMorgan Chase, Berkshire Hathaway.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:01 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Most Google AdSense click revenue goes to website publishers
“Most of the revenue on a click in Google AdSense actually goes to the website publisher, and Google takes the smaller part as their SPF.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:53:10 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Early Google Ad Insertion Orders Had to Be Received by Fax
“All ad insertions were done by fax at this time. So Google had to install fax machines at its headquarters to take these insertion orders for these ads that they were selling.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:28:04 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
What-if
Rosenthal: Google search scaled only because of Urs Hölzle and Jeff Dean
“It's amazing that they attracted them because prospects were not good that all of this would work in scale, and it was only because of these guys that it did.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:01:20 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Stanford received roughly 1% of Google in tech transfer spinoff
“As part of the tech transfer to spin it out of the university, they end up getting like one percent of the company or something like that.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 40:35 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Page and Brin offered to sell Google to GoTo for $200M
“And Larry and Sergey Before they raised the Sequoia and Kleiner round came to Bill and said, what about two hundred million?”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:02:47 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Google initially monetized search ads using a fixed CPM model
“They're giving advertisers this great product of, hey, we have intent of people searching for these keywords, but Google's just getting paid on a straight CPM basis for what they're selling. They're not participating in the economic value.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:50:36 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Auction-based search exhibits increasing returns to scale as volume grows
“Having marketplace liquidity means you always generate the most revenue per search versus other smaller search engines. So it's not just that unit costs go down, it's that as they scale their revenue per search actually goes up due to the auction system.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:35:15 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Early Google consumed about half of Stanford's total network bandwidth
“At one point, they're using about half the bandwidth of the entire university to be serving out google.com pages.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 39:49 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Google split its search index into 64MB distributed chunks
“Google needed like the entire page to compute all the rankings and find the links, find the backlinks. They needed to architect Google with this huge distributed computing system. So the index was so big that it wouldn't fit on A single machine or a single ser…”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:02:43 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google AdWords maintained an incredible 85% gross margin
“And as best we can understand it, Google AdWords stayed an 85% gross margin business.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:00:41 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Opinion
Larry Page's ambition matched Mark Zuckerberg's
“Larry's a different generation and a very different personality than Mark Zuckerberg, but you should think about his ambition and his desire to build a huge world-changing company. At the same level as him.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 8:31 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Sequoia and Kleiner Perkins aggressively split Google's Series A round
“Famously, Kleiner and Sequoia end up splitting the deal, and Michael Moritz and John Doerr, the two most legendary VCs in the world, they team up, they join forces, they split the deal, and they both join the board of Google at the Series A.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:20:00 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Rosenthal: Google was first tech company to use dual-class shares
“Google was the first tech company to do this.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:08:21 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Rosenthal: Yahoo paid Google $7.2M for search results in 2001
“And the next year in 2001, the first full year of this Yahoo portal search deal, Yahoo pays Google 7.2 million dollars for organic search results.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:40:19 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Google shut down Google.com in 1999 to serve Netscape traffic
“In 1999, they shut Google down so that they could serve Netscape's users.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:35:15 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Gilbert: Google settled Overture's ad auction patent infringement for $360M
“Google did eventually end up owing them three hundred and sixty million dollars for infringing.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:00:28 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
What-if
Rosenthal: Crawling the entire web from scratch became impossible by 1998
“If you had tried to undertake this as a brand new project, even just a year or a couple years later, it would have been impossible, because the web would have already gotten so big that to just start de novo and create a index copy like this, like a full copy.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 24:52 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
What-if
Rosenthal: Google launched in a uniquely narrow historical timing window
“If Larry and Sergey had met and started working on this a few years earlier, it would have been Yahoo! Because the web was just so much smaller. Like, you didn't need a technology-based search engine to understand it. And then if they'd started a few years lat…”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:23:48 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Google technically became the world's largest computer manufacturer
“Pretty quickly, maybe even while Google is still a private company, they technically become the world's largest computer manufacturer.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:06:17 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Early Google server hardware failure rate exceeded 10%
“So I read that industry average server hardware failure rate at the time was around like three to four percent per year. Google's hardware failure was over 10%.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:05:54 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Overture had 8,000 advertisers when Google had only a couple hundred
“They had 8000 advertisers against Google's, you know, Couple hundred. That they were selling by hand.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:05:18 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Yahoo invested $10M and powered Google's search backfill in 2000
“In June of 2000, Google signs the deal with Yahoo that they are gonna take over All organic search result backfills on yahoo.com with the Powered by Google branding, and Yahoo is going to invest ten million dollars in Google as part of this deal.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:39:24 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Google's zany projects reflect Brin while moneymakers reflect Page
“The zany parts of Google are sort of Sergey's DNA, and the really honed products, and products that make the business work are a little bit more Larry's DNA, but to be honest, there's incredible overlap everywhere between the two of them.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 15:36 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Half of Google searches were international with zero ad sales
“The other thing that's happening at this exact same time is Eric Schmidt arrives and discovers that 50% of Google's searches are outside the U.S., but they have no international ad sales.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:17:14 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Jeff Bezos took 25% of Google's $1 million seed round
“And so all in, they end up raising a million dollars, had a ten million dollar post-money valuation, and yes, Jeff Bezos does a quarter of Google's seed round.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 47:05 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Partly supported
Gilbert: 1999 Netscape deal brought Google three million searchers daily
“I mean, so the Netscape deal brought in three million total searchers per day.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:35:49 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Yahoo's partnership inadvertently saved Google from the dot-com crash
“Google's gonna survive the dot-com crash between the ten million dollar investment from Yahoo plus the revenue from that portal deal.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:49:02 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Opinion
Rosenthal: Google Toolbar was a secretive strategic linchpin for Google
“How important Google toolbar was and how secretive the company was about this really being like the strategic linchpin of what they were doing. ... Or a strategic linchpin.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:48:36 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Yahoo went from $1B IPO in 1996 to $20B by 1998
“They'd gone public in 1996 at a billion dollar market cap. By 1998, when google.com is launching as a company, Yahoo's a twenty billion dollar public stock.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 54:46 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilbert: AOL Deal Made Google a Major Ad Player Over Overture
“This made Google a major player in the paid listings market almost overnight, and they weren't at all before. Overture dominated this market before.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:31:23 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Yahoo CEO Terry Semel offered $1B to buy Google in 2001
“As recently as late 2001, just months before, there's a dinner with Terry Semel, who's the CEO of Yahoo. Kind of big media executive guy, comes in, takes over, is the big media CEO. And he sits down with the founders and he says, so guys, I think we're your bi…”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:21:47 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Google Monetized Google Earth Through Toolbar Bundling, Not Ads
“They just bundled Google Toolbar with the installs of Google Earth, and then it more than paid for itself. We don't need to do ads.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:46:14 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Gilbert: High click-through rates allow relevant advertisers to win auctions with lower bids
“If you're a better advertiser for that Keyword, then you actually get to pay a lower price. If people are more natural to click through to your service and transact on your product, you get the privilege of bidding lower prices and still winning the auction.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:09:16 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Gilbert: Google traffic doubled to 14M daily searchers on Yahoo deal day one
“So traffic doubled to fourteen million searchers per day on day one of this deal.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:40:01 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
What-if
Gilbert: Google would have rejected Eric Schmidt if he used a heavy hand
“It was so uniquely googly that there would have been organ rejection if Eric tried to take a heavier hand.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:45:23 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Doerr extracted promise from Page and Brin to hire professional CEO
“John Doerr had very begrudgingly extracted a promise from Larry and Sergey to hire a quote-unquote professional CEO.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:41:38 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Rosenthal: No company has done a Dutch auction IPO since Google
“Dutch auction IPO. Not a great idea. Nobody has done it since.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:10:41 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
What-if
Gilbert: Indexing the full web would cost hundreds of millions by late 1990s
“Even one year later would have been tens of millions of dollars, and within a couple years would have been hundreds of millions of dollars.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 25:10 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Paul Buchheit originally coined Google's 'Don't be evil' motto
“Paul Buchheit is awesome, and recently launched a new venture fund, and actually the original coiner of the term, don't be evil, at Google.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:14:58 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Google's early commercial revenue came from a $20,000 Red Hat deal
“They sold this enterprise search deal to Red Hat for 20,000 dollars.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:17:54 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Opinion
Rosenthal: Google Has the Best Business Model in Corporate History
“It's the same beautiful ballet where every piece of the Google business model works together and reinforces the other pieces, and in concert it creates the best business model of all time.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:47:29 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
What-if
Google could not have been built at any other time
“Google could not have been built at any other time in history.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 24:15 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Jeff Dean built Google's first ad test using Amazon affiliate links
“Jeff Dean codes it up so that dynamically, as users are searching, if there's a query that is related at all to Any book in the Amazon library catalog, Google will dynamically generate a text ad saying, go buy this book at Amazon, insert an Amazon affiliate li…”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:29:24 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google founders rejected the name 'Whatbox' over adult site associations
“The name is Whatbox. Whatbox? Whatbox. It rolls right off the tongue. You know, it's a box that you type stuff into, sort of a question. But they decided that it sounded too close to a porn site, so they decided not to go with it.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 35:25 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 bearish
What-if
Rosenthal: Google would not have succeeded if GoTo acquired it
“Well, there's almost zero chance that Google becomes Google if that deal had happened, so”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:03:39 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Sergey Brin designed Google's first logo in open-source program GIMP
“So Sergei designs the homepage and makes the first logo using the open source drawing program GIMP.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 36:54 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gmail launched with 1GB of storage when rivals offered 2MB
“Web-based email from Google with one gigabyte of free storage for every single user. Now to put that in context, Yahoo and Hotmail, Yahoo Mail and Hotmail at the time had like two megabytes of free storage per user.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:13:26 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google's iconic mission statement dates back to its first 1999 press release
“And it's this culture that comes up with a mission statement to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. I mean, this was in 1999 in their very first press release after the financing. That has been the mission statement.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:46:52 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Google Hit $1.5B Revenue, $350M Operating Income in 2003
“2003, that explodes to one and a half billion in revenue and almost three hundred and fifty million in operating income.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:00:00 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Jeff Dean built AdWords, AdSense, MapReduce, and Gemini
“He also implemented the first version of AdWords, built AdSense, rewrote the core search pipeline five times, co-invented and implemented Bigtable MapReduce, TensorFlow, and Gemini.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:00:46 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google AdSense originated from the prototyping process of Gmail
“And so the thing that led to AdSense Was actually part of the prototyping process of Gmail.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:16:22 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Founders insisted on text-only ads to preserve search page speed
“So importantly, Larry and Sergey insisted that, okay, if we have to have ads on here, they need to be text only. We can't serve images and banner ads like everybody else does, because that'll slow down the page.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:26:31 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Jeff Bezos's Google seed investment would be worth $20 billion today
“Jeff has never said whether he sold any of his Google shares along the way, but by my math, if he didn't, that stake is worth about twenty billion dollars today.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 47:43 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Insight
Backlink anchor text describes websites better than self-authored on-page text
“When someone is linking to you, they often do a better job of describing your website than you do on the page yourself. Anybody that's just sort of looking at your website to try to figure out, what's this about? The actual words on your website tend not to do…”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 22:24 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Portals optimized for retention while Google optimized for exit speed
“This is basically why Google beat Yahoo. I mean, there's a lot more to it, but The portals all had this mentality of we want to build more and more and keep people on our site, in our ecosystem, continue to look at our banner ads, and Google, from this point, …”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 32:32 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Google Toolbar users averaged seven times more searches
“Once Google toolbar was installed, a user averaged seven times the number of searches. Which makes them seven times more valuable. Which means you could pay a lot of money to get someone to install it.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:42:27 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Google Toolbar lifted user ARPU from $2 to over $10
“The average annual revenue generated by a Google user was two dollars. But with Toolbar, it was 10 plus dollars. Even if you're being conservative. So that difference that somewhere of, you know, eight bucks a user call it, is your budget to play with.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:42:50 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
AOL Earned $35M in 2002 and $200M in 2003 from Google Deal
“AOL made thirty-five million dollars in 2002, the first half year of the deal alone, and then in 2003 made two hundred million dollars.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:31:09 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Great companies deliberately leave their potential profit unextracted
“Every great company has like a stored potential energy of value maximization that it doesn't fully maximize. Like Costco is the extreme example of this, but Google has this too.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:12:24 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google was processing 10,000 queries per day by spring 1998
“By spring quarter of that year, Google, google.com, is doing 10,000 queries a day”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 37:42 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google's 2004 IPO minted 1,000 employee millionaires
“This IPO made half of the 2000 people who worked at Google millionaires.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 3:04:06 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Page and Brin told VCs only Steve Jobs met their CEO bar
“There's one person that we met in this whole process who we think meets our bar, who we would be willing to come in and hire as our CEO here at Google. Oh God, who is it? Steve Jobs.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:42:52 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Top VCs gave Google a $100M Series A valuation pre-revenue
“They just... Paid a hundred million dollar post for a Series A company with no revenue.”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:25:29 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Google Used 200 Ranking Signals by 2007
“Later, by 2007, they were using 200 different pieces of information to determine the ranking on a query.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:56:01 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Google gave partners up to 100% rev share, including 85% to AOL
“Pay massive revenue share to your distribution partners. In some cases, up to a hundred percent of the revenues generated. We'll talk about who the distribution partners are in a second. But even earlier, we heard with that, ah, AOL deal, they were willing to …”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:37:13 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Early Google colocation agreements billed strictly by square footage
“And then they put, like, the RAM in there, and they put hard drives in there, and then they just stuff them in their data center racks. The photos of these early Google quote-unquote server racks are crazy because the way that their agreements worked in the co…”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 1:06:56 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025
Insight
Gilbert: Market Volume Increases Likelihood of Perfect Ad Matching
“Basically, the more volume you have in your market, the more deeply traded the market, the more likely you are to have an ad that has perfect product market fit with the query.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:28:57 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Opinion
Page and Brin's intense commercial ambition built Google, not accident
“I think there's this perception today that Larry and Sergey were these, like, bumbling academic guys who weren't really business-minded, and Google was a research project, and this all sort of happened by accident that they built the best business of all time.…”
David Rosenthal Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 7:52 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Sundar Pichai joined Google in 2004 to lead Toolbar team
“In 2004, a new PM is hired by Google. They come in and they take over this application's client team that includes Google toolbar. That PM is Sundar Pichai.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:48:09 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bullish
Opinion
YouTube Would Be Worth $500 Billion as a Standalone Company
“So Moffat Nathanson estimated that if this was publicly traded, it would be worth about five hundred billion dollars as a standalone company, and even conservatively, if you sort of take media company comps and do a revenue multiple, And you discount all the s…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:29:23 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Google Tied Company-Wide Employee Bonuses Directly to the Success of Google+
“Company-wide bonuses were based on the success of Google Plus.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:25:31 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bullish
Opinion
YouTube Is the Internet's Largest Property by Aggregate User Time Spent
“Google doesn't release usage data for YouTube, but I'm pretty sure that YouTube is the biggest single property on the internet in terms of minutes spent by humans on it.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:25:39 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Owns Eight Distinct Products With Over One Billion Users
“It is wild that this one company has eight products with over a billion users and started this era with just one search that didn't even have a billion users yet, but search, Android, Chrome, YouTube, Gmail, Maps, Drive, Photos, and then if you count the Play …”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:55:45 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Steve Jobs Lawsuit Threats Kept Pinch-to-Zoom Off Early Android Devices
“So Steve Jobs threatens to sue Google over implementation of multi-touch gestures. And so, as a result, Android for several years doesn't have things like pinch to zoom or the sort of swipe operating system UI navigation gestures, and I'm pretty sure if you re…”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:46:16 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
There Are Currently Over Three Billion Active Android Devices Globally
“Over three billion active Android devices now.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:23:18 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Insight
A Divested Chrome's Only Viable Business Model Is Selling Search Traffic
“If the DOJ's ruling is that Google has to divest Chrome, there is one way that Chrome is a business, and that is getting paid by Google to drive traffic to Google as a search engine. It's the only way to operate a business of a browser.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:21:31 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Invented and Published the Revolutionary Transformer Architecture in June 2017
“Google invented the Transformer and published the paper in June of 2017.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:40:43 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Seeded Gmail's 2004 Launch With Just 1,000 Invites
“When they launch it on April first, 2004, they send out 1000 seed invites to Gmail.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 23:31 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jeff Dean and Sanjay Ghemawat Co-Authored Most Major Google Infrastructure Papers
“And basically, if you look at any big research paper about giant Google infrastructure stuff that was launched from, I don't know, 2000 two-ish, maybe even earlier, through the twenty-teens, Jeff and Sanjay are either the two authors or two of the five authors…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:53:44 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Android Smartphone Market Share Grew From 5% to 80% in Four Years
“In holiday, 2009, when the droid comes out, total Android market share of the smartphone market is still in the, you know, the G one range, like five, six percent global market share. One year later, 30%. They go from five percent to 30% in one year. They anno…”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:04:10 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google's Orkut Peaked at 300 Million Users, Dominating Brazil and India
“Launches a social network within Google called Orkut, and it didn't become that big in America, but it got at its peak, I think, three hundred million users. It was the biggest social network in Brazil, the biggest social network in India.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:16:09 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Google Is the Only Tech Giant to Extend Its Business Across Eras
“Nobody stretches a business model across technology eras. Nobody. And Google did it.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:55:08 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bullish
Insight
Ad Auction Liquidity Guarantees Google's Search Traffic Remains Uniquely Valuable
“The most liquid auction Will always win, and Google has already run away with the search ads auction liquidity, and so traffic on Google searches will forever be worth more than traffic on the second place browser.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:03:13 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 negative
Opinion
Google Glass and Meta Ray-Bans Share Features, but Google Ignored Fashion
“Meta Ray-Bans and Google Glass are the same thing, feature-wise. The gestures on the side, the fact that it could take a photo, I mean, Google Glass was a little more advanced, it could run these, like, very basic text-based apps, but I'm sure when Meta launch…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:53:01 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 negative
Opinion
Google+ Was the Company's Equivalent to Microsoft's Disastrous Windows Vista
“This was Google's Windows Longhorn slash Windows Vista. In our Microsoft saga, we talked about how Vista slash Longhorn was the most damaging thing to the company because of the distraction and the siphoning of resources and the best talent away from working o…”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:28:14 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Network Yields Just $9 Billion Gross Profit Versus Core's $175 Billion
“Google Network, they pay out 70%, and they only made thirty billion. So if you start thinking about, like, gross profit, it's comparing nine billion dollars to a hundred and seventy-five-ish billion dollars.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:49:08 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Google's Historically Flawed Strategy Left Cloud Far Behind Amazon and Microsoft
“And Google had the wrong strategy in cloud for many years, and as a result, that's why their cloud business is way behind Amazon and Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:30:30 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google Dominates Productivity Users While Microsoft Dominates Productivity Revenue
“Google has the vast majority of users and usage of productivity software, and Microsoft still has the vast majority of dollars”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 50:03 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 negative
Insight
Google Cannot Successfully Build Pure Consumer Experiences Lacking Deep Technical Innovation
“It's a Google-y thing that this genius technology is the product itself, and if you try to Craft some cool idea that you have that is not just directly translating tech breakthrough. It's not gonna be the type of product that succeeds at Google. They don't kno…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 4:02:01 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Global Digital Advertising Spend Did Not Eclipse Television Until 2018
“For listeners, digital advertising, you know, Google's universe would not eclipse TV. Until 2017, 20 18.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 57:58 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google Still Runs Far More Borg Than Kubernetes Internally
“Inside Google, they still run Borg. They run far less Kubernetes than they run Borg, and Borg is part of the secret sauce.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:49:41 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
YouTube Generates Over $50 Billion in Total Annual Revenue Today
“On top of the thirty-six billion in advertising revenue, Google reported that if you include subscription revenue, so this is things like YouTube Premium, YouTube Music, NFL Sunday Ticket, They're now doing over fifty billion in revenue.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:24:50 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Play Store Generated $7 Billion in Operating Income in 2019
“In 2019, Play Store revenue was 11.2 billion. Then gross profit was 8.5 1,000,000,007 billion in operating income.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:12:06 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Pays Apple $20 Billion Annually to Remain the Default Search Engine
“This is why Google pays Apple twenty billion dollars a year.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:21:07 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
YouTube Lost Roughly $1 Billion Annually on $30 Million in Early Revenue
“So after the acquisition, he said it was doing about thirty million in revenue. So they did have revenue. I believe, just to foreshadow our next chapter, that was in the form of programmatic advertising that was on the DoubleClick ad exchange that they were us…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:12:28 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google Maintained 350 Different Mobile Versions of Maps Before Android
“Google is maintaining I kid you not, 350 different versions of Google Maps for mobile for all the just sea of phones out there.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:37:10 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Opinion
Google Chrome Kept the Web Alive as a Viable Application Platform
“I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that Chrome kept the web alive. As a viable platform for applications.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:14:01 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Google Acquired Android for Just $50 Million in July 2005
“So July, 2005, Google buys Android for fifty million dollars, five, zero million dollars per Android.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:35:27 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Brand Reputation Risk Meaningfully Delayed Google's Consumer AI Development
“The Google name meant something. And still does, by the way, which I think held them back in AI for a while. They know the Google name means something, so they are reticent to throw their name on it until they got kind of shoved off the cliff.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:48:36 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bearish
What-if
Microsoft Would Have Won Mobile OS Licensing Without Google Buying Android
“If they don't buy Android and they don't get started basically in the month that they did, this market belongs to Microsoft.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:38:01 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Larry Page Eliminated All Google Engineering Managers in 2001
“In 2001, famously pre-IPO at Google, Larry Page feels like Google is moving a little bit too slow and gets rid of all engineering managers.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 11:01 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
The Original iPhone Relied on Built-In Google Maps and YouTube Apps
“There are two apps that launch in the very first version of the iPhone. Remember, it didn't have an app store. It was not open to third-party developers. There is a YouTube app and a Maps app, both of which are Google services. Now, the apps are written by App…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:41:37 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Has Been the World's Top Advertising Seller for 18 Straight Years
“So every year, for the last 18 years, Google has been the number one seller of advertising of any kind in the world.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:51:42 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Sundar Pichai Never Worked in Search or Advertising Before Becoming Google CEO
“Interestingly, he had never worked in search or ads.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:37:13 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Became the World's Largest Ad Seller in 2007
“This 2007 year, This is when they become the largest seller of advertisements in the world. Not just digital ads. Ads.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:51:14 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Employed Nearly Every Top AI Pioneer Simultaneously in 2015 and 2016
“Between 2015 and 2016, so this next year, this next 12 months after the Alphabet transition, all of the following people were Google employees. Alex Krzyzewski of AlexNet. Dawn of machine learning AI. His PhD advisor, Jeff Hinton, godfather of AI. His collabor…”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:39:32 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Ben Gilbert Calls Google's YouTube Purchase the Best Acquisition Ever
“So, this is officially one of the best acquisitions of all time, and I am raising my grade from a C to an A+.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:29:41 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Google Has Seven Products with Over Two Billion Users
“Astonishingly, today, Google has 15 products with over half a billion users. Seven of those have over two billion users.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:26 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Insight
Successful Google Products Require Core Academic-Grade Technical Insights
“Almost all of Google's successful products are based on a core technology insight that is underneath the whole thing. The type of insight that could be in an academic journal.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:58:38 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Maps Generates an Estimated Five to Ten Billion Dollars Annually
“They don't break out revenue, but estimates are that Maps does well over five billion in revenue, maybe even ten billion in revenue.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 41:37 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Opinion
Acquiring DoubleClick Was Worth Every Penny Simply to Block Microsoft
“Worth every penny to Google, even for the sole reason of keeping the premier number one player in the display ad space out of Microsoft's hands.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:46:48 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Insight
Consumer Adoption of Web Applications Eroded Microsoft's Strategic Leverage Over Google
“The faster that we get the internet using public to fall in love with and use web applications, the less and less leverage Microsoft has over us.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 28:53 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
AI Will Capture the Highest-Value Search Query Use Cases
“AI might take away the majority of the use cases of search, and even if it doesn't, I bet it takes away a lot of the highest value ones.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:45:02 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Announced a 40% Reduction in Data Center Cooling Energy in 2016
“Very quickly, July of 20 16, Google announces a 40% reduction in the energy required to cool data centers.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:25:09 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Google Could Have Acquired Tesla for $3 Billion
“It was three billion.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:55:36 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Unprofitable AI Startups Are Not Self-Sustaining Competition for Google
“None of these AI companies are generating net income, and just because they've raised a huge amount of money, It doesn't mean that will last forever. They'll all burn through their existing cash in a pretty short period of time, and if the spigots ever dry up,…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:16:35 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Waymo Raised $3.2B in March 2020 with Alphabet Majority Ownership
“March of twenty-twenty, they raise 3.2 billion dollars from folks like Silver Lake Canada Pension and Investment Board Mubadala, Andreessen Horowitz, and of course, the biggest check, I think, Alphabet, and I think they're always the biggest check, because Alp…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:58:03 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Paid $2.7B to License Character.AI and Rehire Noam Shazeer
“Google ultimately in twenty-twenty-four, after ChatGPT launches, pays 2.7 billion dollars, I think, to do a licensing deal with Character AI, the net of which Gnome comes back to Google.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:30:00 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Sergey Brin Returned to Google as an Employee for Gemini
“Not to mention, apparently, Sergey Brin is, like, now back as an employee working on Gemini.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:08:45 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Larry Page Personally Approved $130M Nvidia GPU Order in 2014
“So they settle on a plan to order 40,000 GPUs. From Nvidia. For a cost of a hundred and thirty million dollars. That's a big enough price tag that the request gets elevated to Larry Page, who personally approves it, even though finance wanted to kill it, becau…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:42:12 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
What-if
OpenAI Probably Would Not Exist if Google Had Bought Tesla
“I mean, I think if that had happened, DeepMind would not have gone down in the same way, and probably OpenAI would not have gotten founded.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:55:44 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Google Is Threading the AI Needle Better Than Other Big Tech
“I think if you look at all the big tech companies, Google, as unlikely as it seems given how things started, Is probably doing the best job of trying to thread the needle with AI right now, and that is incredibly commendable to Sundar and their leadership.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:53:11 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Google's AI Market Share Will Stabilize Between 25% and 50%
“They own 90% of the search market. I don't know what they own of the AI market, but it ain't 90%. Is it 25%? I don't know, but at steady state it probably will be something like 25, maybe up to 50%, but This is going to be a market with several big players in …”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:44:36 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Translate Was Google's First Production Language Model
“So this is the first large, I'm using large in quotes here, language model used in production in a product at Google.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 23:02 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Open · timeframe Oct 2025
Page and Brin Would Rather Risk Bankruptcy Than Lose at AI
“Larry and Sergey control the company. They have been quoted repeatedly saying that they would rather go bankrupt than lose at AI.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:51:58 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Google's $140B Earnings Trail Only Saudi Aramco Globally
“On the earnings side, they've generated a hundred and forty billion over the last 12 months, which is more profit than any other tech company, and the only company in the world with more earnings is Saudi Aramco.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:17:58 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Noam Shazeer and Jeff Dean Are Co-Technical Leads for Gemini
“Once they get Noam back, when they do the deal with Character AI, bring him back into the fold, Noam joins the Gemini team, and Jeff and Noam are the two co-technical leads for Gemini now”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:09:18 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Google Designed and Deployed First TPU in 15 Months
“So, the TPU was designed, verified, built, and deployed into data centers in 15 months.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:47:49 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
'Attention Is All You Need' Is the 21st Century's 7th Most-Cited Paper
“As of today, in 2025, this paper has been cited Over a 173,000 times in other academic papers, making it currently the seventh most cited paper of the 21st century.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:02:44 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bearish
Opinion
2017 Began a 5-Year Period of Google Failing on Transformers
“It is fair to say that 2017 begins the five-year period of Google not sufficiently seizing the opportunity that they had created.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:03:40 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 negative
Assertion Open · timeframe Oct 2025
All Eight Transformer Paper Co-Authors Left Google Within Years
“And also, of course, within a couple years, all eight authors of the Transformer paper had left Google to either start or join AI startups, including OpenAI.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:03:08 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Google Cloud Exceeds $50B Run Rate at 30% Growth
“And today, they're over fifty billion dollars in annual revenue run rate. It's growing 30% year over year. They're the fastest growing of the major cloud providers, five X in five years.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:27:56 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google TPUs Are Only Scaled AI Chip Deployment Besides Nvidia
“They're a chip company with their Tensor Processing Units, or TPUs, which is the only real scale deployment of AI chips in the world besides Nvidia GPUs.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:27 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Google's Core Business Has Grown 5x Since 2015/2016
“Google's core business has continued to grow five X since the end of our Alphabet episode in 2015, 20 16.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:18:21 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Insight
Scaling Laws Force Tech Giants to Centralize on One Model
“And because of scaling laws, you need your models to be as big as possible in order to have the best performance possible. If you're trying to maintain multiple models within a company, you're repeating multiple huge costs to maintain huge models. You definite…”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:44:56 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Google Is the Only Frontier AI Model Maker with Self-Sustaining Funding
“Google is the only model maker who has self-sustaining funding.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:34:14 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Noam Shazeer Created Google's 'Did You Mean' Spelling Correction
“So the first thing that they do with this work is they create the did you mean spelling correction in Google search. ... Gnome created this.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 14:15 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Modern AI Revolution Is Predicated on Google's 2017 Transformer Invention
“The entire AI revolution that we are in right now is predicated by the invention of the transformer out of the Google brain team in 2017.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:41 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
In the Mid-2010s, Nearly Every Prominent AI Researcher Worked at Google
“Basically, every single person of note in AI worked at Google, with the one exception of Yann LeCun, who worked at Facebook.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 7:17 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Geoffrey Hinton Was a Google Summer Intern in His 60s
“He was a summer intern in somewhere around twenty-eleven, twenty-twelve. And mind you, at this point, he's like 60 years old.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 34:03 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Opinion
US Antitrust Search Remedies Against Google Are Immaterial
“The judge first ruled that Google was a monopoly in internet search, and then did not come up with any material remedies. I mean, there are some, But I would call them immaterial. They did not need to spin off Chrome, and they did not need to stop sending tens…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:15:33 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google's Self-Driving Team Completed the 'Larry 1000' Within 18 Months
“So, they start the project in 2009. Within 18 months, this tiny team, I think they hired, I don't know, it's like a dozen people or something. They've driven thousands of miles autonomously, and they managed to succeed in the full Larry 1000 within 18 months.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:54:00 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Opinion
The 2011 Google Brain 'Cat Paper' Drove Hundreds of Billions in Revenue
“I think it's not that much of a leap to say that the cat paper led to probably hundreds of billions of dollars of revenue generated by Google and Facebook and ByteDance over the next decade.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 43:12 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Pichai Decreed Brain-DeepMind Merger and Gemini Standardization in Mid-2023
“Sundar makes these Two decrees mid-twenty-twenty-three. One, we're merging Brain and DeepMind into one team for AI within Google, and two, we're gonna standardize on one model, the future Gemini, and DeepMind slash Brain team. You go build it, and then everybo…”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:08:21 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Google's Monthly AI Token Volume Grew 50x in One Year
“In April of 24, Google was processing 10 trillion tokens across all their surfaces. In April of 25, that was almost 500 trillion. That's a fifty-x increase in one year of the number of tokens that they're vending out across Google services through inference.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:48:40 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Google Announced Gemini Reached 450M Monthly Active Users
“So they announced there are now four hundred and fifty million monthly users of Gemini.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:13:15 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Acquired DNN Research for $44M After Founders Halted Auction
“And so they stop the bidding at forty-four million dollars and just say, Google, This is more than enough money. We're going with you.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 55:42 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Google Generates Approximately $400 Per US User Annually
“Google makes something like four hundred-ish dollars per user per year, just based on some napkin math in the US.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:43:22 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Google Operates an Estimated 2 to 3 Million Custom TPUs
“But today, Google, it's estimated, has two to three million TPUs. For reference, Nvidia shipped, people don't know for sure, somewhere around four million GPUs last year.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:49:49 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Opinion
DeepMind Would Be Worth $500 Billion as an Independent Company
“This is an asset that Google owns today that, again, I think is worth half a trillion dollars if it's independent.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:24:21 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Eric Schmidt Proposed Google Acquire Tesla for Self-Driving Tech
“There's what Eric Schmidt wanted, which is crazy. He proposed, oh, let's just go buy Tesla, and that'll be our starting place, and then we'll just put all of our self-driving equipment on all the cars.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:55:06 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Opinion
DeepMind Is Among the Greatest Tech Acquisitions Ever
“They bought this thing for, we'll talk about the purchase price, but it's worth, what, five hundred billion dollars today? I mean, this is as good as Instagram or YouTube in terms of greatest acquisitions of all time.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:00:03 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Waymo Has Burned $10B to $15B Developing Autonomous Driving
“When you consider this opportunity, they have burned somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to fifteen billion dollars.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:07:31 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Google Is Only Company with Both Frontier Model and AI Silicon
“Somebody put it to me in research that if you don't have a foundational frontier model, Or you don't have an AI chip, you might just be a commodity in the AI market, and Google is the only company that has both.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:41 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Noam Shazeer Urged Google Leadership to Replace Search with Transformer Models
“Gnome, though, immediately starts advocating to Google leadership. Hey, I think this is going to be so big, the transformer, that we should actually consider just throwing out the search index And the 10 blue links model and go all in on transforming all of Go…”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:21:29 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google One Has Over 150 Million Paying Subscribers
“What we do know is there are over a hundred and fifty million paying subscribers to the Google One bundle.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:20:57 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Google Launched Gemini 1.5 with Market-Leading 1M Token Context Window
“February, twenty-twenty-four, they launched Gemini 1.5 with a one million token context window. Much, much larger context window than any other model on the market.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:11:18 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Google Reached Nearly 1 Quadrillion Inference Tokens by June 2025
“And between April of 25 and June 25, it went from a little under 500 trillion to a little under one quadrillion tokens. Technically 980 trillion.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:49:04 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Google Nerfed LaMDA in AI Test Kitchen to Five-Turn Conversations
“For the version of Lambda chat that is in AI test kitchen, they stop all conversations after five turns. So you can only have five turns of conversation with the chat bot, and then it's just, and we're done for today.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:31:10 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Opinion
ChatGPT Surprise Was Worth It if Google Avoids Antitrust Breakup
“As flat-footed as Google was when ChatGPT happened, if the outcome of this is they avoid a Microsoft-level distraction and damage to their business from a U.S. Federal court monopoly judgment, worth it.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:17:02 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Google Stock Dropped 8% After Flubbed Bard Keynote
“After the Bard launch and this keynote, Google stock drops eight percent on that day.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:39:37 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Waymo Can Become a Google-Sized Business if Costs Drop
“You could see a path to a Google-sized opportunity for Waymo as a standalone company just through this analysis, as long as they figure out a way to get costs down to the point where they can run this as a large and profitable business.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:07:06 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Jeff Dean Cut Google Translate Latency from 12 Hours to 100ms
“And Jeff's work with the team gets that average sentence translation time down from 12 hours to 100 milliseconds.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 22:39 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Google Is the World Leader in CPU Workload Parallelization
“They are the single best company in the world at parallelizing workloads across CPUs across multiple data centers.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 22:29 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Supported
Google Doubled Its Offer to Keep Ilya Sutskever Before OpenAI
“Google came back with a big counter, something like double the offer, and I think it was delivered from Jeff Dean personally, and Ilya said, nope, I'm doing this.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:35:31 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Prediction Held up
Neoclouds Will Offer Google TPUs in the Coming Months
“I think within a year it might happen. There are rumors already that some NeoClouds in the coming months are gonna have TPUs.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:31:22 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Opinion
Google's DeepMind Buy Directly Spawned Modern AI Labs
“This company and this purchase of it by Google was the butterfly flapping its wings equivalent moment that directly leads to OpenAI, ChatGPT, Anthropic, and basically everything.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 1:01:36 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Partly supported
Jeff Dean Coded AdSense in One Week Using Early Phil Model
“Jeff Dean borrows Phil and famously uses it to code up his implementation of AdSense in a week, because he's Jeff Dean.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 16:04 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Google's Early Phil Model Used 15% of All Data Center Infrastructure
“Phil gets so big that apparently by the mid-two thousands, Phil is using 15% of Google's entire data center infrastructure.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 17:54 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 bearish
Assertion Partly supported
Google Suffered a Nearly 50% Drawdown After November 2021
“The high watermark was November, 19th of 20 21. Google was right at two trillion dollars of market cap. About a year after that slide began, they were worth a trillion dollars. Nearly a 50% drawdown.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:19:07 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Dec 15, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Acquired Is Recording at Google's Historic First Office
“This is Google's first office right here. They gave it to us for the day.”
David Rosenthal Dec 15, 2025 ▶ 0:47 10 Years of Acquired (with Michael Lewis) · Acquired
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