ESPN

15 statements across 4 episodes · 5 bullish · 5 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Mar 24, 2025 by David Rosenthal · said 172 times in 8 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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Mar 24, 2025 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Lalit Modi Was Ousted From ESPN Joint Venture With Nothing
“There's a big lawsuit about it, goes on for a couple of years, and at the end of it, Lalit gets booted out of the business, and despite his family's 50% ownership in that original ESPN Disney joint venture, he gets nothing.”
David Rosenthal Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 20:31 Indian Premier League Cricket (Audio) · Acquired
Jan 27, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
The NFL traded NFL Network to ESPN for a 10% equity stake
“So August, 20, 25, the NFL reached a deal with Disney and ESPN to essentially sell the NFL network, the NFL's cable network and the NFL's official fantasy app to ESPN for a 10% equity stake in all of ESPN in return for this swap.”
David Rosenthal Jan 27, 2026 ▶ 3:35:54 The NFL: How small-town teams became America's most valuable sports empire (Audio) · Acquired
Jan 27, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rosenthal: Televising NFL draft was ESPN's first major coup
“It was actually the first big coup for ESPN when ESPN started in 1979 and 1980 was televising the NFL draft.”
David Rosenthal Jan 27, 2026 ▶ 44:45 The NFL: How small-town teams became America's most valuable sports empire (Audio) · Acquired
Mar 5, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Liberty Media Initially Gave ESPN US Broadcasting Rights for Zero Dollars
“Right after Liberty takes over in 2017, they do a deal with ESPN, much like Bernie's original European Broadcasting Union deal. Liberty says, will you please show all of the F-one races on the calendar on ESPN? We will give it to you for zero dollars.”
David Rosenthal Mar 5, 2026 ▶ 3:26:56 Formula 1: Fast cars, celebrities, and B2B software (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: ESPN lost 3 million subscribers in 2015, falling to 92M
“It would come out later in Disney's annual report that ESPN lost three million subscribers that year. Which still meant it had ninety-two million in total.”
David Rosenthal Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 2:59:19 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 neutral
Insight
Gilbert: Acquiring Capital Cities/ABC Cost Disney Its Strategic Clarity
“It was because it had ESPN, but it also cost the company It's strategic clarity. Disney never again would get to be just Disney. It's the flywheel business and the ESPN affiliate slash advertising cable business. And it's worth it because buying ESPN was this …”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 1:47:01 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 negative
Insight
Rosenthal: Sports content cannot build compounding value like Disney's flywheel
“Sports have a very limited shelf life. You are not going back and watching Manning cast episodes from last season. The flywheel does not apply here. So you can't build long-term value around that original content.”
David Rosenthal Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 3:34:27 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Cable operators pay ESPN an average of $9.42 monthly per subscriber
“Nine dollars and 42 cents per month per subscriber that the cable operators pay ESPN.”
David Rosenthal Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 1:10:14 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: ESPN generates three billion dollars annually in operating income
“Yeah, it's a declining asset that does three billion dollars a year now in operating income.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 3:44:15 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 bearish
Insight
Gilbert: Sports leagues will capture all long-term excess broadcasting profits
“So in the long run, if the main reason to subscribe to any given channel ends up being actually about the game content itself and not differentiated by stuff around the game, then the excess profits in the long term Will just be captured by the rights holders …”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 3:33:32 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
ESPN's cash flow fully funded Disney's Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm acquisitions
“If you go line up those three acquisitions, which sound ludicrous on their price tags, especially when you didn't know how they were gonna pay off, Pixar at 7.4 billion, let's even include the cash in there, that's about two and a half years of cable's then pr…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 2:56:59 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: NFL traded NFL Network to ESPN for a 10% stake
“In twenty-twenty-five, they do a deal with the NFL. The NFL trades, the NFL network cable channel, Into ESPN in return for a 10% stake in ESPN itself.”
David Rosenthal Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 3:45:23 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026
Assertion Supported
ESPN and cable networks drove 60% of Disney's operating income from 2008-2011
“So we're flashing forward, but later on, in the 2008 to 2011 time frame, Disney's cable networks segment, of which analysts believe that three quarters of the cable network segment is ESPN, that segment accounted for 60% of the entire company's operating incom…”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 1:16:40 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: ESPN's Monday Night Football package cost hit $2.7B annually in 2021
“So in 2006, just look at the Monday Night Football package that ESPN buys. O six, it was a 1.1 billion. 20 11, it was at 1.9 billion a year. And by 2021, it went up to 2.7 billion dollars a year now.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 3:32:51 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
Aug 10, 2026 bearish
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Disney lost billions over half a decade transitioning to streaming
“They're in the midst of a transition to streaming with Disney Plus and Hulu. And ESPN making giant technology and marketing investments to support that transition that lost billions for half a decade.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 2:29 Disney: The Renaissance and the Empire · Acquired
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