frontier models

also referred to as: frontier model

11 statements across 8 episodes · 3 bullish · 2 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement Sep 25, 2023 by Mira Murati · across every show →

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Sep 25, 2023 neutral
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Murati: AI market will feature a diverse range of models
“You can see even today, you know, we make a lot of models available through our API and from the various, from the very small models to our frontier models, and people don't always need to use The most powerful, the most capable model. Sometimes they just need…”
Mira Murati Sep 25, 2023 ▶ 21:59 Where We Go From Here with OpenAI's Mira Murati
Sep 24, 2024 negative
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Wang: Frontier AI models fail at sequential tool composition
“Right now, if you look at all the frontier models, they suck at composing tools. So if they have to use one tool and then another tool, let's say they have to look something up and then write a little Python script and then chart something, you know, if they u…”
Alexandr Wang Sep 24, 2024 ▶ 7:52 Why Human Data is Key to AI: Alexandr Wang from Scale AI
Nov 24, 2025
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Yafah Edelman: Robotics training runs use 100x less compute than frontier LLMs
“What we found is that like compute it, the training runs that are being used for robotics are like a hundred times smaller than the training runs that are being used for Than the training runs that are being used for, like, frontier models.”
Yafah Edelman Nov 24, 2025 ▶ 47:40 The 2045 Superintelligence Timeline: Epoch AI’s Data-Driven Forecast
Dec 12, 2025
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Evans: Any entity spending billions can acquire a frontier AI model
“There's going to be anybody who can spend a couple of hundred, you know, can spend a couple of billion dollars can have a frontier model.”
Benedict Evans Dec 12, 2025 ▶ 52:22 AI Eats the World: Benedict Evans on the Next Platform Shift
Jul 30, 2026 positive
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Sreenivas: Frontier Models Are Best Suited for Open-Ended Auxiliary Tasks
“So we think for jobs like that, Frontier models that are very smart, that can try out a lot of things, make a lot of sense.”
Ashwin Sreenivas Jul 30, 2026 ▶ 6:51 How Decagon Runs 90% of Its Agents on Open-Source Models
Jul 30, 2026 positive
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Sreenivas: Deploying custom open-source models eliminates major AI cost pressures
“If we ran our entire business exclusively on frontier models, I would care a lot about costs, and I would think a lot about that, but once you're already, once you've already made the jump to saying, okay, now, now we know how to think about open source models…”
Ashwin Sreenivas Jul 30, 2026 ▶ 14:36 How Decagon Runs 90% of Its Agents on Open-Source Models
Jul 30, 2026 positive
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Zhang: Fine-tuned small models can match or beat large frontier models
“And if you fine tune it to be really good at that task, it can be just as good or better than the big models.”
Jesse Zhang Jul 30, 2026 ▶ 3:45 How Decagon Runs 90% of Its Agents on Open-Source Models
Aug 6, 2026 neutral
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Aboukhadijeh: Rival frontier models share universal hallucinations for non-existent software packages
“There was a research published recently about what they're calling kind of like universal type of squats or universal hallucinations where all the frontier models all have the same make the same mistake and sort of assume there are certain packages that exist …”
Feross Aboukhadijeh Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 4:06 AI Is Learning to Hack. Faster Than We Expected.
Aug 6, 2026 negative
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Aboukhadijeh: Frontier AI Models Drastically Shrink Time to Exploit Vulnerabilities
“The frontier models are gonna cause, you know, a, you know, they are causing kind of a massive reduction in the time between the vulnerability discovery and vulnerability exploitation.”
Feross Aboukhadijeh Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 7:50 AI Is Learning to Hack. Faster Than We Expected.
Sep 9, 2026 neutral
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Ryan Chi: Direct recursive self-improvement testing is too slow and expensive
“In an ideal world, what you want to do is actually take a frontier model and have it train the next version of itself and see where the delta comes from. But obviously that's very expensive and slow.”
Ryan Chi Sep 9, 2026 ▶ 11:08 Inside the Race to Measure Frontier Intelligence
Sep 10, 2026
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Verdian: LPs keep their jobs missing frontier models if tracking benchmarks
“If you miss the frontier models, back to your first question as an LP, but you kind of were along the benchmark, maybe slightly below the benchmark, you're keeping your job.”
Aram Verdian Sep 10, 2026 ▶ 27:10 Why Investors Are Rethinking Everything for the AI Era
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