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Disclosure
Acorns spent heavily sponsoring NASCAR but saw zero visible user growth
“At one time we sponsored NASCAR. And it's a lot of money, but it didn't, we didn't see any visible lift in our results.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 9:39 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Early-stage founders cannot outsource initial growth channels to agencies
“The most fundamental things is about figuring out your growth model, the initial channels that cannot be outsourced, and you need to figure that out on your own.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 25:39 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hila Qu calls Google Analytics a last-generation tool compared to Amplitude
“A lot of funders in early stage, they use Google analytics is okay, but it's, I would say it's last generation of analytic tool. You want to have tools like Amplitude or Mixpanel or things like that.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 44:25 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hila Qu compares B2B data infrastructure to a 'kindergarten level'
“B to B. The data situation is in general, much worse. I would say B to B is almost like kindergarten level. If B to C is third grade level in terms of data foundation.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 45:01 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
GitLab focused its growth teams on input metrics rather than top-line ARR
“So when I joined at GateLab, I talk with our CEO, we have a, we have ARR, not ARR, ARR growth as our North Star metric for the company, which is fine. But for me as a growth leader, right? Or for any other teams, I need to break that down into inputs exactly a…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 48:35 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Native gas station ads outperformed celebrity endorsements for Acorns' user acquisition
“We also do a bunch of like very native ads. Someone go to gas station and then just pump, pump gas and say acorns help them. Like the ordinary person gas station version works much better than a celebrity.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 6:23 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Top companies always rely on viral loops or SEO for long-term growth
“Over time, you will see all the best, most successful companies, they always have some sort of a viral approach or content-based SEO approach.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 8:52 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Snapchat and Pinterest ad channels cannot scale like Meta or Google
“Snapchat, Pinterest, those work, but those are hard to scale. Like you don't get large scale, similar to Facebook and Google.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 10:01 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Full-funnel growth teams are the most effective structure for B2C startups
“B to C growth team, as I mentioned I usually think the full funnel team is the most powerful.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 15:03 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Startups with network effects should hire growth talent earlier to engineer loops
“If your product has a social collaboration, network effect, that kind of thing, think about Slack, LinkedIn, right, or anything like, or Airtable, Figma, hiring for growth early on, a little bit earlier, will allow you to engineering those growth loops into th…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 19:16 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Early-stage startups should hire mid-level growth PMs instead of VPs
“When I talk with early stage founders, I advise them to hire kind of an experienced growth PM or experienced growth mass marketer. Don't go for VP growth from the very beginning. Don't go for someone very junior who hasn't done this before, because that kind o…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 20:25 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Growth advisors require an internal team member to execute their strategy
“Growth advisor need to be paired still with a team or as a founder, right? Advisor don't have the capacity to execute things. So you need to have someone to execute.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 27:06 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Small equity stakes motivate growth advisors more than large cash retainers
“Even a small percentage of equity will be actually more powerful than sometimes a large amount of cash in, in some cases, right? For selected companies.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 30:04 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hila Qu asserts that 60% of growth A/B tests fail
“60% of A-B testing fail.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 37:50 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
North Star metrics change annually at most; input metrics change quarterly
“Yeah I think the North Star metric shouldn't be changing very frequently. Otherwise, it's north, it's not a North Star metric. It's a south, like, east to west star metric, right? It's all over the place. That should be, like, for the, even, like, it doesn't c…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 49:20 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Activation and conversion are the easiest levers for early growth wins
“First of all, those two levers are the easiest place to find quick wins. Like I mentioned, As a new growth person or growth leader, you want to find quick wins because wins change people's perception. You can get more resources. Everything else become easier. …”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 50:18 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Lower labor costs in China favor human growth operations over product automation
“The most popular role in China's growth space is called operation. It doesn't exist here in US at all. I was confused initially, but what is behind that is because the average labor cost in China is lower. So a lot of things that tend to be automated here in t…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 59:22 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Increasing user revenue unlocks higher CAC tolerance and more paid channels
“We added new product life so that we can charge more. And then that higher revenue allow us to unlock a higher CAC in paid channels or more paid channels.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 3:18 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Hila Qu details growth advisor retainer structures and cash-equity compensation splits
“We usually have a monthly kind of returner model. We have a like six months engagement or even a year. And then it's a, usually a blend of cash and equity. Personally, myself for earlier stage, I may kind of be willing to Take more equity. If the company is re…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 28:31 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Founders must identify specific growth loops before writing a job description
“I would say the first thing is write the job description. It shouldn't be your standard job description because you, as I mentioned, the first step, there are some like homework for the founder to do. You need to think about your growth model. What are the ini…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 30:43 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Failing to document growth experiments leads to repeated mistakes by new hires
“The third thing is choose a system of records, document learnings, document results is such a big part. Otherwise it get lost. And after two years and new hires begin to do the same experiments you already did like two years ago and didn't work.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 42:23 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
GitLab publicly open-sources all growth experiment results and hypotheses
“At GitLab, we have everything open source. We have a handbook. So it's open and public. And actually people look at our experiments and it's categorized by like, is this activation acquisition? And you can click in to see what's the hypothesis, what we tested,…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 56:00 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Acorns converted high-performing ad concepts directly into in-product features
“At Acorns, we often run ads that work so well. And we begin to implement that feature in the product. Like we have a calculator, retirement calculator ads. We talk about if you start saving today in, in twenties, in your thirties, what difference does that mak…”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 56:41 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Moving fast without stakeholder buy-in creates resistance to winning experiments
“I think the biggest mistake I made in my early days is try to move too fast without getting buy-in from the stakeholders. The result, the experiment might be successful, but there's so much resistance in implementing the winner.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 1:01:38 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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