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Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Meta invested $900M in CRED to hire WhatsApp head Kunal Shah
“Zuck also just paid essentially nine hundred million dollars to hire a head for WhatsApp, right? By investing nine hundred million dollars into cred, right?”
Jason Lemkin Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 38:58 Enterprises Fear Frontier Models | Sam Altman Offers Trump 5% of OpenAI | DeepSeek Builds Own Chips · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Partly supported
Grindr per-user daily message volume surpasses WhatsApp
“And we had a hundred and twenty five billion approximately messages sent in the app last year. That's about 50 messages Per person per day which is more than WhatsApp messaging in a given day per, per user.”
George Arison Dec 4, 2024 ▶ 2:08 George Arison, Grindr CEO: How Grindr Built a Free Flow Cash Machine | E1234 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
WhatsApp managed 1.5 billion users with just one product manager
“When I joined WhatsApp, it had a billion and a half users, and it really only had about one product manager, about two to three data people working on it.”
Ryan Wiggins May 19, 2023 ▶ 4:35 Ryan Wiggins: Scaling WhatsApp from 0-100M; How to Build a Growth Team; Mercury Neobank | E1016 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Held up
Greze: Meta will launch a personal AI assistant inside WhatsApp
“They're going to have a personal assistant that's going to come in WhatsApp. I don't know if they're launching it in a day or in three months, but it's coming.”
Jean-Denis Greze Sep 7, 2026 ▶ 7:54 Town vs Instinct vs GrokBot | Why the AI Assistant Market Is Not a Bubble
Assertion Partly supported
Hudack: 99% of people in Spain used WhatsApp when Facebook acquired it
“When Facebook bought WhatsApp, I think 99% of people in Spain had WhatsApp. It was some of the most incredible market penetration ever.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 23:28 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Dash: Dubsmash offloaded video hosting to WhatsApp and iMessage to save cash
“We couldn't do things like host video, so we did a bunch of lightweight hacks, like the whole product was a creator app. You could just send a video, and because we couldn't host video because it was too expensive, we just sent it to WhatsApp, Facebook Messeng…”
Suchit Dash Sep 13, 2023 ▶ 12:51 Suchit Dash: Scaling Dubsmash to 43M Users, Battling TikTok & Joining Reddit | E1060 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
WhatsApp user growth in the US has sometimes been flat or negative
“The United States has been a country where WhatsApp has some adoption but has it quite reached a scale of you know, total growth and it's sometimes been flat and sometimes even negative over that course of time.”
Ryan Wiggins May 19, 2023 ▶ 6:51 Ryan Wiggins: Scaling WhatsApp from 0-100M; How to Build a Growth Team; Mercury Neobank | E1016 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Schultz: Facebook Lost Messaging Market Share to WhatsApp During Mobile Transition
“We were actually losing market share because the web was declining. Faster than mobile was growing for us, and then WhatsApp and iMessage and all of these things were coming along, and actually the shift of platforms meant even though we were growing mobile me…”
Alex Schultz Mar 7, 2023 ▶ 13:07 Meta CMO Alex Schultz: Competing Against TikTok & Snap; Why Reels Failed at First | E985 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Contradicted
BlackBerry Messenger had 80M daily active users before WhatsApp gained traction
“BlackBerry Messenger at that point was eighty million daily active users. This is before WhatsApp had any traction, any other iMessage had much Attraction”
Patrick Spence Feb 26, 2021 ▶ 5:32 20VC: Sonos CEO Patrick Spence on His Biggest Lessons Building and Growing Blackberry, The Right Way to View Competition and Innovation Cycles & How To Make The Transition From COO To CEO Most Effectively
Assertion Partly supported
High 10-cent SMS costs in India accelerated early WhatsApp adoption
“In a market like India, where SMS is 10 cents. So like, you know, you're actually competing against 10 cents versus the marginal cost of incremental data.”
Ryan Wiggins May 19, 2023 ▶ 7:41 Ryan Wiggins: Scaling WhatsApp from 0-100M; How to Build a Growth Team; Mercury Neobank | E1016 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Contradicted
WhatsApp experienced zero downtime during Ryan Wiggins' four-year tenure
“In the four years I worked on WhatsApp, it never went down.”
Ryan Wiggins May 19, 2023 ▶ 5:21 Ryan Wiggins: Scaling WhatsApp from 0-100M; How to Build a Growth Team; Mercury Neobank | E1016 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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