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Benioff: Salesforce cut support headcount from 9,000 to 5,000 via AI agents
“And to that point, I've been able to reduce the number of human agents I have in support From about 9000 to about 5000.”
Benioff: Salesforce Will Reduce Support Engineer Headcount in 2025
“We will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer”
Salesforce Agreed to Shift Its LLM Spending to Anthropic
“Dario is showing up because Mark agreed to move Salesforce agreed to move
Their LLM spend to Anthropic.”
Lemkin: SaaS incumbents see no revenue boost from AI features yet
“So far the evidence is no. So far it says the incumbents are gonna, they're gonna do great things with AI, great, great things. The product's gonna be much better, but it's not clear they're gonna get any revenue boost from it. No one's saying that none of the…”
Lemkin: Demand environment is worsening for Salesforce, MongoDB, and Workday
“Yamini got on the last call a couple of weeks ago and said, yeah, we saw a little bounce at the end of the year and HubSpot had a great quarter, but it's not any easier. She said, it's not one lick easier right now. So HubSpot, not any easier Mongo worse. Sale…”
Benioff: Salesforce engineers are only required in-office 10 days per quarter
“Our engineers only have to come in the office 10 days a quarter.”
Benioff: Salesforce expects sales, marketing, and G&A staff in-office three days weekly
“I think that for our sales and marketing people, We tell them that four days a week we want to see them, you know, in person with a customer. For our sales and for our marketing people and our G&A people, we like to see them in person three days a week.”
Salesforce Spends $6B on Engineering and $300M on Anthropic Annually
“Salesforce spends six billion a year on engineering, and that probably includes QA and all the rest of it, but that's the right comp. And they're going to spend three hundred million dollars this year on Anthropic.”
Salesforce's $300M Anthropic Spend Equals 3.8% of Developer Salaries
“Right now, you know, if you look at Mark Benioff, he said they spent three hundred million on Anthropik. That's about 3.8% of developer salaries spent on tokens.”
Lemkin: Anthropic reached $30B valuation in five years versus Salesforce's 25 years
“Getting to thirty billion up from nine billion at the start of the year. I mean I think it took, I mean, Salesforce is the largest software company, right? Or at least cloud one. And it took them 25 years to get there. Anthropic got there in five, but maybe th…”
Stebbings: Salesforce deployed $850M of its $1B AI fund
“Salesforce invested eight hundred and fifty million of their new billion AI fund.”
Benioff: Salesforce Data Cloud and AI reached over $1B ARR
“The data cloud and AI together now is more than a billion in revenue. We talked about that on our last earnings call. It's our fastest growing Cloud product, whatever, ever, you know, in 26 years.”
O'Driscoll: Slack restricting customer data access will fail over the medium term
“I don't know if you can get away forever in a horizontal app like Salesforce with a channel like Slack denying access, the denying the customer access to their own content over the medium term. I don't think it stands.”
O'Driscoll: Dropbox lacks a significant enterprise customer base compared to incumbents
“Your right to win is predominantly in your existing customer base, and ServiceNow is a big one, and Salesforce has a big one, and brutally in the enterprise, Dropbox doesn't.”
Benioff: Salesforce Agentforce Pricing Starts at $2 Per Conversation
“Agent force is consumption pricing. So you're being charging per conversation. The starting price is about two bucks per conversation, and then it's negotiated based on volumes for customers.”
Benioff: Salesforce Projects Thousands of Agentforce Deals in Q4
“We'll do thousands of agent force deals this quarter”
Lemkin: Salesforce now requires 3x pipeline coverage, up from 2x historically
“Salesforce also just said that now they need three X pipeline coverage versus two X historically. So in other words, if they want to close a billion dollars, they used to need two billion dollars of deal in flight. Now they need three because it's just 50% har…”
Ryan: Salesforce will incorporate AI and defend market share from startups
“Salesforce is going to incorporate that in and, you know, a large company with a thousand person Salesforce is not going to easily switch off. To a startup company. And so I have confidence that Salesforce will incorporate AI into their product. Maybe it's six…”
Quattrone: Salesforce submitted higher unsolicited bids during LinkedIn's exclusivity window with Microsoft
“So they went into like a 30 day exclusivity to try to get to definitive agreement. And during that period, Salesforce lobbed in Several offers that were higher. And that meant that towards the end of that period, we had to inform Microsoft, Hey, your deal is n…”
Quattrone: Microsoft and Salesforce submitted nearly identical bids at every stage for LinkedIn
“With LinkedIn, we had interest from several parties, but it really kind of came down to Microsoft and Salesforce. And I've never seen companies bid privately and come up with such close prices on every stage Like, 151 151 162 163. It was very, very close, and …”
Kurtz predicts CrowdStrike will mirror Salesforce's platform and revenue trajectory
“I think the next five years probably look a lot like, you know, Salesforce trajectory where you continue to build out your platform, you continue to scale your revenue, your annual recurring revenue, additional geographic expansion.”
Fireworks hired former Salesforce president George Hu
“Lin just hired George Hu. He was the former president of Salesforce.”
Mignano: Incumbent tech companies will constrain employee token spend budgets
“There's too many employees at a Salesforce or I don't know, a Microsoft such that every employee can just have an unlimited token spend budget. So I think we're going to see a lot of those companies start to constrain their spends.”
Stebbings: US Army awarded Salesforce a $5.6B contract over 10 years
“I do think a hat tip deserves to be given to our friend of the show, Mr. Mark Benioff, who army just awarded sales. 5.6 billion. Billion dollar contract over 10 years.”
Halligan: Shopify is the only SaaS stock outperforming Oracle and SAP
“If you go from that date and you look at you look at Oracle and you look at SAP, they're both growing, like, 230%. The only SaaS company since August 22 It's growing faster. Shopify. They're growing 300%. So they're outpacing HubSpot, Salesforce, Adobe Box, At…”
Benioff: Salesforce Guides to $38B Revenue and $12.9B Cash Flow
“We had a great quarter, Harry. We delivered, you know, clear guidance to thirty eight billion in revenue this year, 12.9 billion in cash flow 32.9% margins.”
Benioff: Salesforce Sold 200 Agentforce Deals in Q3 2024
“We shipped it October, and the quarter, which closed at the end of October, we already sold 200 deals.”
Liaw: Salesforce will pause major M&A while digesting Slack
“Now, I think Salesforce is probably going to be quiet for a little bit as they digest Slack.”
Mobile enterprise will produce a Salesforce-scale breakout within 5 to 10 years
“Under hyped for us, I think is mobile enterprise. I think you're going to see a lot of amazing companies come out in, in grow in the next five, 10 years both for desk and non-desk workers. You know, I think there's going to be A Salesforce Oracle type company …”
Salesforce discontinued RelateIQ's European clients after acquiring the CRM startup
“On the CRM side, we started with RelateIQ. Sadly, they got bought out by Salesforce, and they decided to discontinue their European clients, which was a bit annoying.”
Owner uses Momentum to automate Salesforce field entry from call transcripts
“So we use Momentum that looks at the transcript of every single sales call, and it fills in the Salesforce fields for the rep. It fills in their opportunity record, it updates the account, the person, it says whether or not the event was run or not, all of tha…”
Benioff Reaffirms Salesforce Almost Acquired Twitter
“We almost bought one. You probably remember we almost bought Twitter.”
Lemkin: Salesforce lost $50 billion in market capitalization overnight
“Salesforce lost fifty billion dollars in market cap.”