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Zinman: Software built on LLMs will grow exponentially, not shrink
“I think if anything, we're going to see an excess of software being built on top of the LLMs, not less, exponentially more because the opportunity is so massive and the time is so huge.”
Zinman: Monday.com has hit bottom and will grow from here
“And if you ask me today how I feel great because as I told you, we hit the bottom or maybe close to the bottom. And from here we can only grow and focus on execution.”
Monday.com replaced 100-person inbound SDR team with AI agents
“We had a team of about a hundred SDRs and we now doing, doing it with agents. A hundred percent is being done with agents. We move those SDRs to do outbound.”
Zinman: Monday.com can reaccelerate growth and exceed past potential via AI
“But the way I look at this today is maybe this is our biggest opportunity as a company. Maybe we waited for that moment. And if we did the right things, we can reaccelerate the company and even grow much larger than what we could have become as a company.”
Zinman: Monday.com plans to be the default platform for enterprise AI orchestration
“And we want to make Monday the default place for people to build agents and to collaborate between agents and people. So essentially you'll build Monday, you build agents on the top of Monday. Those agents will output tables, docs, files. People will go over i…”
Zinman: Monday.com's early AI features were superficial sugarcoating
“We built some AI features, but like you said, I call it we sprinkled some AI dust on top of our product. So essentially we didn't know what to build. So we built a way for people to be, build formulas using AI. We built AI blocks, AI columns, but essentially i…”
Zinman: AI will handle 70% to 80% of enterprise work
“I think AI can potentially do 70, 80% of the work, and not 10, 20%, like it used to be before AI was brought into our lives.”
Zinman: Users not building AI agents are using Monday.com improperly
“If you haven't built an agent on Monday, you're not using the product properly. And that's a major shift. The boards, the dashboards are going to be more in the background and the agents more in the forefront.”
Zinman: Google AI search hit 10% of Monday.com's new ARR acquisition
“It was about 10% of our acquisition in terms of new ARR but again, Google is very transactional, so people usually, when they're searching for something, they're willing to buy at this point because the intent is very high, so we lost some of the more transact…”
Zinman: Monday.com headcount will not grow substantially by 2030
“So today we have about 3000 people and gonna be when? ... My gut feeling is, is probably we're not gonna grow substantially.”
Zinman: Monday.com will remain public with no reason to go private
“No. I don't see a reason. No. Look, I think at the end of the day, you know, you can be private, you can be public. The question is, do you need to raise more money? And we don't. We generate 27% of free cash flow. We don't need to raise more money. We have ev…”
Zinman: Massively cutting headcount won't fix investor perception of Monday.com
“I don't think that you know, if we reduce ad count dramatically, it will change you know, investor perception about Monday. I don't, I just don't think that's the essence of what we're seeing in the market.”
Zinman: Monday.com is pivoting entirely to AI agents
“One, in terms of our horizontal platform, we're going all in agents and humans working together. We're shifting the product a hundred percent, the pricing, the go-to-market, the product. We have two vertical offerings, the CRM and service. For that, we're buil…”
Zinman: Monday.com will transition entirely to consumption-based pricing
“Well, eventually I think it's gonna be more consumption and then entirely consumption going forward. So I think there's also be a transition, but now it's gonna be hybrid, and eventually it's gonna be a hundred percent consumption.”
Zinman: Public SaaS companies will match AI startups in agentic work
“On one hand, I see people excited about private companies because they build tools in the AI era that kind of captured the, what I've referred to as doing the work, but I'll tell you a secret. You know, public companies will do it as well. We're going to do it…”
Zinman: Monday.com leadership fails to adequately tell company strategy
“I think one thing that I think we can do better is to tell a story in a better way. I think Roy, myself, we're not even though we do great marketing for our product, I don't think we tell the story good enough for the company, and definitely that's something t…”
Lemkin: Monday.com Will Churn Faster Than HubSpot and Salesforce
“The Mondays will churn faster than HubSpot, right? And HubSpot will churn faster than Salesforce. It's just delayed churn, right? That, that's the thing is, you know, ServiceNow takes you 10 years to get off that platform.”
Rajaram: Monday.com has a much weaker defensibility score than Atlassian
“Monday probably has a score of one, I think. They have a workflow mode. I'm not sure if they have the other modes. So you're right. Monday, in theory, has a much weaker score, I guess, than Atlassian on this.”
Zinman: Software fundamentals remain strong despite negative market sentiment
“If you look at the earning calls and how business operate, everything is, is kind of normal. Some companies are even exceeded expectations and businesses are working great, but at the same time, The sentiment has shifted drastically, like I've never seen befor…”
Monday.com announced an $870M stock buyback over 2-3 years
“Well, we are we announced a buyback program of eight hundred and seventy million. And we said we're gonna spend it over the last, next two, three years. We already done some buyback in Q four.”
Zinman: Relying on startup acquisitions is a failure of CEO leadership
“If I need to bet the whole company future on an acquisition of a startup, I'm not doing my job as a CEO.”
Zinman: Monday.com has $1.5B cash, no debt, and $1.3B ARR
“Roughly, let's say, 1.5 billion in the bank cash. No debt. So the enterprise value is two billion. We have like, Again, I don't want to disclose specific numbers. Let's say over a 1.3 billion of ARR. So it's like 1.5 multiple.”
Zinman: Monday.com is undergoing the largest pivot in its history
“It's the biggest pivot moment for us in the history of the company.”
Zinman: Monday.com stock peak to $400 was driven entirely by sentiment
“I remember when our stock went, went up to 400. After we IPO'd and one of our investors told me something, Ken Fox from Stripes. He told me something which was brilliant. He told me, isn't it great that the stock is going up without the revenue going up? And I…”
Zinman: Public markets are pricing Monday.com as worth zero
“What the market is saying to me is, the company is worth zero.”
Entree Capital extended a convertible note when Monday.com's seed round ran low
“I give a lot of credit to our board members specifically. You mentioned Avi you know, I would say the typical investor seeing that a company spent 80% of their seed round and didn't reach, like, product market fit, you know, maybe would kind of give up on the …”
Monday.com's customers provided more funding than all its venture capital combined
“I think our customers has been the biggest investor of Monday. More money than we ever raised from investors.”
Communication tools are nice-to-haves, not core work management software
“So we initially thought that it will be more focused around communication and collaboration, but one thing that we found is that a lot of those tools are under the category of You know, yeah, we can use it, but it's a nice to have tool. It's not something that…”
Monday.com spent nearly $17M per month on performance marketing in 2023
“Yeah. Something like that. A little bit less, but around that.”
Monday.com waited until $40M to $60M ARR to add a sales team
“I think it was 40 or fifty million, maybe even 60 that we kind of added the sales team.”
Monday.com faced widespread investor rejections during its Series A, B, and C
“We got a lot of no's. I was, I would tell you that in our A, B and C rounds.”
Avi Eyal: Entrée Capital distributed over $1.5B from $15M monday.com investment
“Since the beginning of Monday, we invested approximately fifteen million dollars. The distribution from that was over one and a half billion dollars.”
Zinman: AI developer productivity gains create new non-coding engineering bottlenecks
“On one hand, we see increase in personal productivity, but again, there's new bottlenecks you find each time you increase one of those productivities, and basically we're on a journey to increase more and more the output of our R&D team.”
Zinman: Enterprise SaaS faces five distinct AI doomsday scenarios
“Yeah, so first of all, I think there's like five Doomeday scenarios I'm familiar with, so that's one of them. But, you know, I'll just take you back a little bit in time, but first of all, it was everything about people will Vibe code their own apps. That was …”
Monday.com leadership team is not selling any company shares
“Not myself or my partner Roy, Or the rest of the leadership team is selling shares. I, in my 10 B five, I have you know, a number I'm not willing to go below in terms of selling shares. And I can say the price now is much, much lower than that number. So I'm n…”
Monday.com cut customer response time from 24 hours to 3 minutes using AI
“It used to take, on average, 24 hours to get back to a customer. Now it takes three minutes.”
Zinman: Monday.com gross retention rate is at an all-time high
“I see the retention rate highest ever, gross retention highest ever.”
Zinman: 90% of company context remains undocumented
“And if you think about any company, even Monday itself, 90% of the context is not documented anywhere. Nobody knows it.”
Stebbings: Monday.com is valued at $3.9B despite $1.3B in revenue
“With close to 1.3 billion in revenue, they're valued today at just 3.9 billion dollars in the public markets.”
Monday.com lowered headcount growth guidance to mid-teens, may cut further
“In the last earning call, we said it's going to be mid teens. And I think there's also potential, you know, we might even take it lower.”
Zinman: Historically 90% of enterprise work occurred outside software tools
“90% of the work was done outside of the tool.”
O'Driscoll: 10x Cash Flow for 20% Growth Is Wildly Cheap
“10 times cash flow for something growing sustainably at 20% is wildly cheap.”
Harry Stebbings bought Monday.com stock after post-earnings price drop
“Dude, I bought the shit out of it. I'm going to be honest.”
Monday.com operates at an over 25% free cash flow margin
“We're very efficient in terms of cash flow, you know, over 25% free cash flow positive.”
Monday.com recycled $5M of venture capital into a $15M marketing budget
“So we actually managed to turn five million of money raised from investors into a 15,000,001 five performance marketing budget. So we built a very efficient machine that recycles money and kind of reinvested that back into the business.”
Multi-product expansion requires distinct go-to-market strategies for each product
“Maybe one lesson is it's not just about the product itself. Go to market is as important and every product has a very different go to market. It's unbelievable. It's so different. Different buying dynamics, different buyer, different decision process, differen…”
Monday.com was built as a generic platform, not project management software
“We didn't build a work management or project management tool from day one. You know, the equivalent, we built the equivalent of force.com. Which is for Salesforce. We built a generic platform, not about work management, not about CRM, just the building blocks.”